Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

your "scumread" on me is nothing more than OMGUS. You are just like your sister.

[MathBlade]

Like I still get a chuckle from that game...mafiacraft that I think it was, when I was trolling and you thought I was claiming investigation.

Again that was Aspergers I forget the game but you troll a lot.

A claim is believed serious until otherwise debunked.

[MathBlade]

@Nero not that I recall off the to of my head.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8960804

@BaeReed would this help you and mastina or is this a waste of time?

[MathBlade]

your "scumread" on me is nothing more than OMGUS. You are just like your sister.

Explain how I townread OMGUS earlier and then switched because OMGUS

Your OMGUS attack is fruitless and UGH WHY AM I ARGUING WITH SCUM???!?!?!?!?!?!

[MathBlade]

Leonshade
Gorkington
RadiantCowbells
Caesar Wills It
Lil Uzi Vert
CloudKicker
nancy

These players are all wonderless.

Creature Vecna or one of these players has Leaning Tower Or Hagia Sophia (which makes Vecna scum).
Between that and likely daychat two of these players at minimum canot/will not follow a given plan at minimum.

If you townread nancy, a third cannot follow the plan.
If you townread Caesar then a fourth cannot follow the plan.

[MathBlade]

The more I think about it Vecna is actually probably wonder free. It frees up a wonder but that's a side theory.

meh nancy and Caesar go back in my need analysis pile for that alone.

[MathBlade]

Ugh I want to actually Big Ben Vecna now and see if he has Hagia Sophia. If he didn't it would explain Dave's no result and then daychat and Leaning Tower are the only scum requirements.

[MathBlade]

But Gorkington is smarter.

[MathBlade]

Same with nancy crap. Need to do VCA and see what that demonstrates about potential wonder selections.

[PeregrineV]

Who are Radiant's other reads?

He was pushing a me, Kid, Dave, CK scum team at first and now its a me, CK, Dave, Creature team I think.

I'm re-reading his ISO right now.

12700- lots of push for scum you
Lots of push for Leon=town
nancy was town for as long as she was townreading him
Leon wagon at 6 at the VC, and KidAdm at 2, and Radiant is still fighting the Leon wagon and pushing the KidAdm wagon

Here we have

Lynch Vote 4.27

Leonshade (8):

NoticeMeSenpai,

KidAmn

, CloudKicker, Lil Uzi Vert, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, nancy, Nero Cain

KidAmn

(4):

Maxous

, Creature, Alisae, Leonshade

Vecna (2):

Gorkinton, MathBlade

RadiantCowbells (1):

davesaz

Nero Cain (1):

RadiantCowbells

Not Voting (0):

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

If Leon is town, then who are the scum on and off the wagon?

If Leon is scum, are scum already bussing, or are they avoiding it?

Then, nancy drops vote on Leon, follows Radiant to Cloudkicker, and Radiant moves back to Nero.

Lynch Vote 4.28

Leonshade (7):

NoticeMeSenpai, KidAmn, CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert

KidAmn (4):

Maxous, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade

Nero Cain (2):

RadiantCowbells, Alisae

CloudKicker (1):

nancy

Vecna (1):

Gorkinton

RadiantCowbells (1):

davesaz

Not Voting (0):

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

Spoiler: 2 VCs ina row- Ithi8nk Alisae is only vote moving

Lynch Vote 4.29

Leonshade (7):

NoticeMeSenpai, KidAmn, CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert

KidAmn (6):

Maxous, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, RadiantCowbells, Alisae

Vecna (1):

Gorkinton

RadiantCowbells (1):

davesaz

Not Voting (1):

nancy

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

Lynch Vote 4.30

Leonshade (8):

NoticeMeSenpai, KidAmn, CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert, Alisae

KidAmn (5):

Maxous, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, RadiantCowbells

Vecna (1):

Gorkinton

RadiantCowbells (1):

davesaz

Not Voting (1):

nancy

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

Alisae hops wagons. Nancy who was not voting votes KidAdm.

Lynch Vote 4.31

Leonshade (7):

NoticeMeSenpai, KidAmn, CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert

KidAmn (7):

Maxous, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, Alisae, nancy, RadiantCowbells

Vecna (1):

Gorkinton

RadiantCowbells (1):

davesaz

Not Voting (0):

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

Uzi drops off Leon, no vote on Leon
NoticemeSenpai drops to nancy

Lynch Vote 4.32

KidAmn (7):

Maxous, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, Alisae, nancy, RadiantCowbells

Leonshade (5):

KidAmn, CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, Nero Cain

nancy (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

Gorkinton

RadiantCowbells (1):

davesaz

Not Voting (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

Pretty sure this was Dave's targets- which ended up failing.

Davesaz, do Nero Cain / nancy please.

this will win you the game. do it.

$th post for this pair.

nancy/nero is a gamebreakingly good check

Flipping on creature read.....

I would lynch Nero, then Creature, then Davesaz and get 3 scum flips.

If I were scum, hit doc/bp while having a RB I would immediately claim that as a guilty. not that I think that creature is scum.

KidAdm lynch is ~12 hours away form this VC

Alisae

k thank upls be careful with the nicknames in votes it's very late and im very tired

Lynch Vote 4.33

KidAmn (8):

Maxous, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, Alisae, RadiantCowbells, davesaz, Lil Uzi Vert

Leonshade (5):

KidAmn, CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, Nero Cain

Alisae (1):

nancy

nancy (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

Gorkinton

Not Voting (0):

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

Yeah....still looks shitty.

[Nero Cain]

Explain how I townread OMGUS earlier and then switched because OMGUS

lol you weren't. You were town reading me up until I started scum reading you.

[PeregrineV]

Leonshade (8): NoticeMeSenpai,

KidAmn

, CloudKicker,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Caesar Wills It, Vecna,

nancy

, Nero Cain

KidAmn

(9):

Maxous

, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, Alisae, RadiantCowbells, davesaz,

Lil Uzi Vert

,

nancy

[MathBlade]

...PV if you're doing VCA you're supposed to start with facts.

Dave called out his targets and they were Nero and nancy.

Pedit: So you agree with me on LUV PV?

[MathBlade]

If you think LUV is scum what do you think of Vecna's plan to give LUV the vig?

[MathBlade]

Leonshade (8): NoticeMeSenpai,

KidAmn

, CloudKicker,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Caesar Wills It, Vecna,

nancy

, Nero Cain

KidAmn

(9):

Maxous

, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, Alisae, RadiantCowbells, davesaz,

Lil Uzi Vert

,

nancy

This is also the conclusion I came to at the start of the day which you can't call me bad then suggest the people I suggested a while back. I can't both be bad and right PV. I'm waffling on nancy now but still prettys ure LUV is scum.

[PeregrineV]

...PV if you're doing VCA you're supposed to start with facts.

Dave called out his targets and they were Nero and nancy.

Dave announced them today.

I asked Dave why he picked them.

what did Dave say?

Why doesn't it fit with Nero?

Davesaz isn't voting Nero
Nero did their best to avoid voting Leon yesterday

Cloud would definitely be in there

Hmmm yeah, allthough to be fair he still has to out his targets of his wonder. The fact he's still waiting with that is kind of annoying, and might just be to wait out to push for their preferred lynch.

THE TOWN DEMANDS ANSWERS. DAVESAZ, REVEAL YOUR TARGETS. NO MORE DELAYING.

I don't know what time this was posted, but I got up at 7:30, went to the doctor office at 8:15, got to work at 9:15, and it's now 10:35 and I'm reviewing the thread while listening to a meeting.

I will decide when I reveal, nobody else tells me what to do. Ever. Especially when all of the people asking me to do it are people I'm scumreading!

Creature has not revealed a target. Why not?

Aside from that I have seen what I needed to see. I guess it doesn't matter what Creature did.

Targets =

nancy, Nero

Thoughts behind these? Are you townreading one and not the other?

[PeregrineV]

If you think LUV is scum what do you think of Vecna's plan to give LUV the vig?

There should currently be no plan. There is no way to control or enforce it, so it's just talk at this point.

[PeregrineV]

Leonshade (8): NoticeMeSenpai,

KidAmn

, CloudKicker,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Caesar Wills It, Vecna,

nancy

, Nero Cain

KidAmn

(9):

Maxous

, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, Alisae, RadiantCowbells, davesaz,

Lil Uzi Vert

,

nancy

This is also the conclusion I came to at the start of the day which you can't call me bad then suggest the people I suggested a while back. I can't both be bad and right PV. I'm waffling on nancy now but still prettys ure LUV is scum.

Those bolded are just on both wagons. No conclusions yet.

Those 2 are also the ONLY ones on both wagons.

If Leon is town, and scum was all lynching KidAdm, why not just lynch Leon? He'd be harder to lynch later.

[MathBlade]

There absolutely is. LUV already buckled under suggestion he check Gork. People buckle when pressured into an authentic commitment if scum if they don't have a plan around it.

You scumread LUV. How do you feel about him being willing to cop Caesar and not Gork?

[PeregrineV]

back later, since i have work to do, and will sneak here instead....*sigh*

[MathBlade]

Leonshade (8): NoticeMeSenpai,

KidAmn

, CloudKicker,

Lil Uzi Vert

, Caesar Wills It, Vecna,

nancy

, Nero Cain

KidAmn

(9):

Maxous

, Creature, Leonshade, MathBlade, Alisae, RadiantCowbells, davesaz,

Lil Uzi Vert

,

nancy

This is also the conclusion I came to at the start of the day which you can't call me bad then suggest the people I suggested a while back. I can't both be bad and right PV. I'm waffling on nancy now but still prettys ure LUV is scum.

Those bolded are just on both wagons. No conclusions yet.

Those 2 are also the ONLY ones on both wagons.

If Leon is town, and scum was all lynching KidAdm, why not just lynch Leon? He'd be harder to lynch later.

Because everyone on the Kidamn lynch is/was townreading Leonshade and I was arguing against what I feel is a stupid lynch. They ran out of scum for the Leonshade wagon.

[PeregrineV]

There absolutely is. LUV already buckled under suggestion he check Gork. People buckle when pressured into an authentic commitment if scum if they don't have a plan around it.

You scumread LUV. How do you feel about him being willing to cop Caesar and not Gork?

I'm not sure I scumread Uzi, that's the problem.

Alos, plan bad, no enforcement mechanism, so it cannot catch scum mechanically. If you want to test reactions with it, go ahead.

[MathBlade]

Assuming Leonshade is town

Leonshade (8): NoticeMeSenpai, KidAmn, CloudKicker, Lil Uzi Vert, Caesar Wills It, Vecna, nancy, Nero Cain

Gorkington couldn't hammer or he'd be speed wagoned due to how today started. LUV and nancy are both scum.

Vecna and LUV and nancy were already on the wagon so if both are scum they have no one else as Nero is on it too.

On the off case nancy is town (which I'm kinda thinking nancy scum now and waffling on her) then anyone hammering that is going to look HORRIBLE.

Leonshade is town for the fact scum didn't pick up the cred.

[MathBlade]

how that day started*

[MathBlade]

(LUV, Vecna, PV, nancy, Nero, Gorkington} Like I think if all these players were to die then all the scum would probably be gone. The problem is one of these has to be town. I don't think Nahdia does a 6P scum game.