Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Alisae]

Math why aren't you voting Nero?

[MathBlade]

@mod:
Assume player X has Hagia Sophia. Assume Hagia Sophia specifies the wonder Petra. Specified result: As if they were roleblocked. Specified Target: Player Y.
Assume player Q has Red Fort. Assume Hagia Sophia targets player Y. What is the result player Q receives assuming no other wonders in the game?

Okay first of all, "As if they were roleblocked" isn't a valid input for Hagia Sophia. You have to specify a result, not a LACK of a result.

That aside, Red Fort would receive "No one visited you."

Assume player X has Hagia Sophia. Assume Hagia Sophia specifies the wonder Petra. Specified result: As if no one visited. Specified Target: Player Y.
Assume player Q has Red Fort. Assume Hagia Sophia targets player Y. What is the result player Q receives assuming no other wonders in the game?

I assume you mean "Your targeted visited no one?" "No one visited" isn't a valid result for the Petra.

Red Fort would receive "No one visited you."

Assume player X has Hagia Sophia. Assume Hagia Sophia specifies the wonder Petra. Specified result: As if they visited a random player. Specified Target: Player Y.
Assume player Q has Red Fort. Assume Hagia Sophia targets player Y. What is the result player Q receives assuming no other wonders in the game?

Yeah again, "a random player" isn't a valid input for Hagia Sophia.

Red Fort would receive "No one visited you."

Did this answer your question BaeReed? If not I don't get it.

[MathBlade]

Math why aren't you voting Nero?

Already stated I'm holding out for hammers and I want this plan settled before we go into night.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Really don't want to rehash but yes PV is speaking what I was thinking.

You did a good job pointing it out 40 pages ago, where I started reading.

Not sure why Notice wouldn't protect the statue, all things considered.

but apparently this is just all foreplay before the nancy lynch.

You mean the statue that was lynched D2 when my wonder was being built?

[MathBlade]

I already said make plans with me taking each Wonder.

Not acceptable. That is too many plans. I've said this. That many plans results in no accountability for you. Considering you are moderately scumread for a lack of wonder this is not acceptable. That many plans is no plan.

You will tell everyone what you are doing now.

[MathBlade]

You have your choice of whatever you want LUV. Anything you want just say what.

[nancy]

So then we dayvig you? They can't block the results if you're dayvigged.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's not too many plans. It is literally two. One with Ben, one with Ruhr.

Why is a lack of a Wonder scummy?

[MathBlade]

So then we dayvig you? They can't block the results if you're dayvigged.

..Stonehenge only triggers if I'm killed at night nancy.

That's the ultimate no results

[nancy]

Actually it makes no sense for them to block you. They have to block davesaz.

[nancy]

They have to choose between one townfirm from you or double guilty/townfirm from davesaz.

[MathBlade]

Each night, you may target a player.

If you are killed during the night

, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.

@LUV that's 4.

One for Nero Town one for Nero scum and one for each wonder.

Everyone has to be held accountable else you can lie and say you got the other one when no one has it.

You have to pick. There cannot be a way for anyone to lie here. Being able to choose between two wonders means you can lie.

[nancy]

I highly doubt they're going to block you over davesaz. Vig should be leashed to you with a scumflip.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm going to do my own plan then.

[MathBlade]

Actually it makes no sense for them to block you. They have to block davesaz.

This is actually incorrect. There is a way we can both be blocked. I am not telling scum how as if they block both of us it will be incredibly obvious and they'd scumclaim. The only way to ensure results on Gork is if he is vigged. The reason these are laid out like that is in order to catch scum if they block Dave. If they block me then they think I'd target scum which means just use my reads.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

@Nero not that I recall off the to of my head.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8960804

@BaeReed would this help you and mastina or is this a waste of time?

I am not sure what you're asking here. Please rephrase?

[nancy]

It's impossible for you and davesaz to both get blocked. If you both got blocked Creature would have to be scum, which would make davesaz scum, ergo davesaz wouldn't have been blocked unless Town had the Leaning Tower, which we don't.

[nancy]

There's no world in which scum block you over davesaz tonight. Blocking you would out davesaz and Creature as scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Where is the claim shit again?

[nancy]

Alisae - neighborhood
Nero Cain - VT
MathBlade - oracle
Leonshade - VT
Gorkington - ?
Creature - rb
RadiantCowbells - VT
Caesar Wills It - VT
Lil Uzi Vert - VT
Vecna - redirector
CloudKicker - ?
davesaz - parity
NoticeMeSenpai - doc
nancy - VT

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I need that chart the one Math had.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Spoiler: Claims with CK added

	Player Name	Wonder Built Already (if Applicable)	Day One Submission Attempt	Day Two Submission Attempt	Day Three Submission Attempt	Day Four Submission Attempt
1	Alisae	Mausoleum	Mausoleum	None	None	None
2	Nero Cain	None	None	None	None	None
3	MathBlade	Stonehenge	Stonehenge	None	None	None
4	Leonshade	None	None	Petra	Chicken Itza	None
5	Gorkington	None
6	Creature	Alhambra	None	None	Alhambra	None
7	RadiantCowbells	None	Pyramids	None	None	None
8	Caesar Wills It	None	None	None	None	Forbidden Palace
9	Lil Uzi Vert	None	None	None	None	None
10	Vecna	Hagia Sofia	Stonehenge	None	Hagia Sofia	None
11	CloudKicker	None	Hanging Gardens	None	None	None
12	davesaz	Chicken Itza	None	None	Chicken Itza	None
13	NoticeMeSenpai	None
14	nancy	None	None	None	Chicken Itza	Great Zimbabwe
15	PeregrineV	Pyramids	Pyramids	None	None	None
16	beeboy	None	None	None	None	None
17	Fro99er	None	None	None	None	None
18	Albert B. Rampage	Zeus	Zeus	None	None	None
19	Sondam	Petra	None	Petra	None	None
20	KidAmn	None	Hanging Gardens	None	Chicken Itza	None
21	Maxous	Hanging Gardens	Hanging Gardens	None	None	None

Thanks CK.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Big Ben
Great Zimbawe
Ruhr Valley

Now to construct my plan

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If Nero flips town:
Big Ben: Vecna
Ruhr Valley: Leon
Great Zimbabwe: Dave & Notice

If Nero flips scum
Big Ben: Ceasar
Ruhr Valley: Cloud
Great Zimbabwe: Dave & RC

Now to determine which one is worth it...

[MathBlade]

Alisae - neighborhood
Nero Cain - VT
MathBlade - oracle
Leonshade - VT
Gorkington - ?
Creature - rb
RadiantCowbells - VT
Caesar Wills It - VT
Lil Uzi Vert - VT
Vecna - redirector
CloudKicker - ?
davesaz - parity
NoticeMeSenpai - doc
nancy - VT

I am Stonehenge not oracle nancy.