Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MathBlade]

@Nero not that I recall off the to of my head.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8960804

@BaeReed would this help you and mastina or is this a waste of time?

I am not sure what you're asking here. Please rephrase?

Would VCA help was the question but I did it so it doesn't matter I gotta go.

[nancy]

Oracle is the name I know the role by.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Okay I've decided.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If Nero flips town, I'll go for Ruhr.
If Nero flips scum, I'll go for Big Ben.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Lynch Vote 4.34

KidAmn (9):

Maxous,

Creature

, Leonshade,

MathBlade

,

Alisae

, RadiantCowbells,

davesaz

, Lil Uzi Vert, nancy

Leonshade (5):

KidAmn,

CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It,

Vecna, Nero Cain

nancy (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

Gorkington

Not Voting (0):

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

@BaeReed what do you make of this majority likely town wagon on KidAmn and RC, LUV, and nancy on the speed end.

Not sure, I don't think you can do VCA without all of the vote counts to analyze the movements as a whole. What you're doing here is macro VCA while only focusing on certain VCs, which doesn't work so well for painting the picture of what happened.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Lynch Vote 4.34

KidAmn (9):

Maxous,

Creature

, Leonshade,

MathBlade

,

Alisae

, RadiantCowbells,

davesaz

, Lil Uzi Vert, nancy

Leonshade (5):

KidAmn,

CloudKicker, Caesar Wills It,

Vecna, Nero Cain

nancy (1):

NoticeMeSenpai

Vecna (1):

Gorkington

Not Voting (0):

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

@BaeReed what do you make of this majority likely town wagon on KidAmn and RC, LUV, and nancy on the speed end.

Broad thoughts are that you shouldn't do the orange color thing. VCA is about looking at everything and judging what is most likely given all the evidence. By already having "town by VCA" on your VCA your future VCA is colored by your reads already. If that makes sense?

[NoticeMeSenpai]

@NoticeMeSenpai --- VCA it is mastina's schitck talk with her and me please.

If I ask her she'll ask me what I think given the VCA guide she gave me. I don't have the time to dedicate to doing VCA right now, I want to spend time with my girlfriend after catching up here.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

@mod:
Assume player X has Hagia Sophia. Assume Hagia Sophia specifies the wonder Petra. Specified result: As if they were roleblocked. Specified Target: Player Y.
Assume player Q has Red Fort. Assume Hagia Sophia targets player Y. What is the result player Q receives assuming no other wonders in the game?

Okay first of all, "As if they were roleblocked" isn't a valid input for Hagia Sophia. You have to specify a result, not a LACK of a result.

That aside, Red Fort would receive "No one visited you."

Assume player X has Hagia Sophia. Assume Hagia Sophia specifies the wonder Petra. Specified result: As if no one visited. Specified Target: Player Y.
Assume player Q has Red Fort. Assume Hagia Sophia targets player Y. What is the result player Q receives assuming no other wonders in the game?

I assume you mean "Your targeted visited no one?" "No one visited" isn't a valid result for the Petra.

Red Fort would receive "No one visited you."

Assume player X has Hagia Sophia. Assume Hagia Sophia specifies the wonder Petra. Specified result: As if they visited a random player. Specified Target: Player Y.
Assume player Q has Red Fort. Assume Hagia Sophia targets player Y. What is the result player Q receives assuming no other wonders in the game?

Yeah again, "a random player" isn't a valid input for Hagia Sophia.

Red Fort would receive "No one visited you."

Did this answer your question BaeReed? If not I don't get it.

I can't read what you were even asking to be honest.

My thoughts are Vecna claimed to have targeted Sondam to mess with a tracker result on nancy in case nancy built Red Fort to prove whether Creature roleblocked him or not.
The problem with that is I think Red Fort would get "no one visited" regardless because Vecna did not target nancy, he targeted Sondam. As in, at no point in that does he visit nancy, he just changes Sondam's result.

Your thing is really complicated and I can't keep track of what you're trying to say in all of those sorry :/

[nancy]

I don't have the time to dedicate to doing VCA right now, I want to spend time with my girlfriend after catching up here.

Are you caught up yet?? :/

[RadiantCowbells]

alright motherfuckers

[davesaz]

Read when he gave his reasoning and how fast he did it. Genuine as hell.

If scum he had all night + partners to plan ahead.

[davesaz]

I've read and seen RC wreck scum teams even after dragging a town into chaos for the first couple of days.

Check out scum RC (as Prince Lyon) in Open 675 which just ended.

[davesaz]

If Nero Cain is scum then scum clearly did not want Sciences this points towards Drixx being town.

From that VC it doesn't look like scum wanted either one, and it doesn't matter what you color Nero.

[RadiantCowbells]

Davesaz you were in that game you know perfectly fucking well this isn't my scum game

[RadiantCowbells]

Like if this was my scum game I wouldn't be struggling to lynch Nero. you all would be lapping that shit up and Nero would have been dead weeks ago and you'd still have me as conftown.
There'd be like 1 person who thinks that I might be scum and the dead thread just watches the slow inevitable march of a scum!RC win.
This is not that game at all. nancy was my scumpartner there and I'm pretty sure that meta is why she figured out that I'm town.
Like I don't sit and call people scum without a case as scum unless I don't want them to get lynched.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Jesus that was a clean sweep.

[davesaz]

Each night, you may target a player.

If you are killed during the night

, that player's alignment will be immediately publicly revealed.

@LUV that's 4.

One for Nero Town one for Nero scum and one for each wonder.

Everyone has to be held accountable else you can lie and say you got the other one when no one has it.

You have to pick. There cannot be a way for anyone to lie here. Being able to choose between two wonders means you can lie.

Except you gave RC choices all over the place. I scumread RC, therefore I object.

[RadiantCowbells]

lol

[davesaz]

There's no world in which scum block you over davesaz tonight. Blocking you would out davesaz and Creature as scum.

That's a big hole as someone widely townread but scum could take vig, claim to shoot math, which implies creature blocked me or I lied, and town loses.

[davesaz]

VOTE: RC

[davesaz]

Buenas noches.

[RadiantCowbells]

^ not town in case that wasn't already obvious

[Nero Cain]

maybe instead of coming up with plans we should you know, lynch scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

We're trying but your scumteam would rather hard commit onto me and nancy than bus.

[davesaz]

Page 604:

@MOD, so a player with Hagia Sophia could target a player and Chichen Itza, and cause the result to be "No Result"? !!!

Don't think this was answered.