Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Vecna]

We can do a very interesting new IF statements now.

Either scum has the Leaning tower, OR Nancy + Jaereed + RC are ALL scum.

Time to reread that zimbabwe fail claim from Nancy carefully since at the time it felt rather honestly....

Also, that statement that she was scumreading RC just before the force replace out was really weird.

[Vecna]

This freedom vote is nuts. I just read....and it gives scum PERMANENT daytalk.

Even if they have daytalk now, and we lynch their encrypter - they will KEEP permanent daychat.

This is NOT worth it for the longer time that Alisae can keep chatting with people.

Accountability is where its at. Alisae did not know that this resolution came up, so its time to vote AUTOCRACY to hard-confirm her as being pro-town in those neighbourhoods.

If you guys want a proper town-block, then show us what went on there.

VOTE: AUTOCRACY

[Vecna]

Who is in the neighbourhood with Ali atm?

[Vecna]

Btw.......arent TB and Yume the same person?

Because I thought Yume was part of the earlier alisae hydra....

[NoticeMeSenpai]

except that I knew where the doctors were targetting and Leon (if town) was roleblocked and if scum we knew where the rolestopper was

Confirming this.
nancy said in hood she was doccing me, I said I'd doc RC since he claimed the vig and was thinking he needed to shoot in case he died.

nancy literally couldn't doc outside the hood. I was on RC because I didn't want him to shoot.

[Vecna]

Interestingly enough, with all information we have now - the Kremlin is pretty much a normal cop.

[Vecna]

How did RC respond to the Nero flip in the neighbourhood Notice?

Why did Nancy call RC scum just before replacing out? Did they talk about a gambit in the neighbourhood that explains that?

[Vecna]

Also, everything in this game is fitting almost too nicely.

Nero flipping town, meaning Nancy needs an escape out of the (dave no result) scenario

Nancy needing an escape out of the great zimbabwe not being built.

And then suddenly the neighbourhood isnt taken and Nancy still takes it, invites RC who she is likely teamed with if scum - Leonshade just happens to get a result that would confirm scum did take the roleblocker, and scum also happen to know that Davesaz can be killed freely.

This stinks.

[Vecna]

Also....Nancy knowing that it wasnt scum that build the Zimbabwe.

[Vecna]

High probability scumteam:

NoticeMeSenpai - Not really the doc wonder?
Nancy/TB - Great wall of China
RC - Vig wonder?

+2/3 out of
Leonshade - ?
Alisae - Neighbour wonder
Ceasar - Forbidden palace scum version?

[Vecna]

Either that, or my reads on all other slots have been completely wrong, which my already fragile ego doesnt feel like handling just yet.

[Vecna]

Also, Leonshade not wanting to out that he took the doc-wonder untill LUV has outed feels suspicious as all fuck.

The only way that LUV's choice would influence him outting, is if he suspected luv mightve also gone for the doc-thing, outing him as scum.

[Vecna]

We're doing None because no one can be trusted.

Which is EXACTLY why were NOT doing none.

Were doing autocracy to town-confirm Alisae for everyone tomorrow.

Nope.

No need to confirm Alisae when me and BaeReed do and I trust BaeReed to convince nancy and RC

Alisae,BaeReed,myself, nancy,RC is 5. Unless you think that is the scum team Vecna then it is entirely unneccessary

Youre just the sidekick helping the scum-team, but yes, those other 4 as scum fits perfectly.

[Vecna]

Which is exactly what Nero was saying as well, lol

Oops, sorry Nero

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Btw.......arent TB and Yume the same person?

Because I thought Yume was part of the earlier alisae hydra....

No they're not. That much should be self evident.

[Vecna]

Like....think about it.......

If scum really does have a roleblocker....

Why not just keep roleblocking DAVESAZ, and kill Leonshade the super-doctor - so they dont townconfirm 2 people that are widely suspected.

This nightphase play by scum was designed to stop an insta-lynch today on either RC or Nancy.

And why would scum totally ignore NoticeMeSenpai the doctor? Unless they knew he wasnt going to interfere with their plans?

The answer is simple; because Leonshade needed an excuse to have done an action, and Nancy/TB needed an excuse for there not to be a Zimbabwe.

[Vecna]

Are you in the neighbourhood with Ali again today Notice?

[Leonshade]

Like....think about it.......

If scum really does have a roleblocker....

Why not just keep roleblocking DAVESAZ, and kill Leonshade the super-doctor - so they dont townconfirm 2 people that are widely suspected.

This nightphase play by scum was designed to stop an insta-lynch today on either RC or Nancy.

And why would scum totally ignore NoticeMeSenpai the doctor? Unless they knew he wasnt going to interfere with their plans?

The answer is simple; because Leonshade needed an excuse to have done an action, and Nancy/TB needed an excuse for there not to be a Zimbabwe.

If scum had killed me, davesaz would've gotten a result (as my rolestop would've stopped their RB on davesaz).

As for why scum ignored the possibility of Senpai doccing davesaz, that's a very good point, and why I initially thought that scum used the strongman vig instead of roleblocking me. It's also why I wanted to claim after LUV, so he couldn't have claimed to have gone for another wonder instead of the vig.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

How did RC respond to the Nero flip in the neighbourhood Notice?

Why did Nancy call RC scum just before replacing out? Did they talk about a gambit in the neighbourhood that explains that?

Don't know why nancy did but I think she was walking back on that just before she was replaced. Ask TB if he sees it the same way but that's what I see.

RC was kinda uncertain about his reads aside from us but certain we were in an essential masonry. Hence he claimed.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

All are so bad, like None is the best but scum are so ahead they don't care if they openly scum claim repeatedly.

[Vecna]

Like....think about it.......

If scum really does have a roleblocker....

Why not just keep roleblocking DAVESAZ, and kill Leonshade the super-doctor - so they dont townconfirm 2 people that are widely suspected.

This nightphase play by scum was designed to stop an insta-lynch today on either RC or Nancy.

And why would scum totally ignore NoticeMeSenpai the doctor? Unless they knew he wasnt going to interfere with their plans?

The answer is simple; because Leonshade needed an excuse to have done an action, and Nancy/TB needed an excuse for there not to be a Zimbabwe.

If scum had killed me, davesaz would've gotten a result (as my rolestop would've stopped their RB on davesaz).

As for why scum ignored the possibility of Senpai doccing davesaz, that's a very good point, and why I initially thought that scum used the strongman vig instead of roleblocking me. It's also why I wanted to claim after LUV, so he couldn't have claimed to have gone for another wonder instead of the vig.

Oh ofcourse, that makes sense.

[Vecna]

All are so bad, like None is the best but scum are so ahead they don't care if they openly scum claim repeatedly.

LUV, both order and Autocracy are way better than Null

[Vecna]

LUV, youre going to stop bullshitting around now, and claim your real actions about your wonder build.

My protection on your slot is completely gone.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Which is exactly what Nero was saying as well, lol

Oops, sorry Nero

misrep

Nero was saying you were scum.
He knew I was town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Order is irrelevant at that stage I feel and hurts the town that are part of neigborhoods.