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Post Post #18275 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:48 pm

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There is no case on me. It's just NAI bull which is why pushing on me should confirm what we all suspect.
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Post Post #18276 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:48 pm

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There is no case on me. It's just NAI bull which is why pushing on me should confirm what we all suspect.
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Post Post #18277 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:51 pm

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In post 18265, Vecna wrote:Like....think about it.......

If scum really does have a roleblocker....

Why not just keep roleblocking DAVESAZ, and kill Leonshade the super-doctor - so they dont townconfirm 2 people that are widely suspected.

This nightphase play by scum was designed to stop an insta-lynch today on either RC or Nancy.

And why would scum totally ignore NoticeMeSenpai the doctor? Unless they knew he wasnt going to interfere with their plans?

The answer is simple; because Leonshade needed an excuse to have done an action, and Nancy/TB needed an excuse for there not to be a Zimbabwe.
Except Zimbabwe was confirmed to exist today. So no.

Leon is scum, you are scum, and your attempts to lynch anyone but your partner are fucking noted.

Like, this is exactly what scum will be doing today, having each other in their list and going "oh but we lynch this person instead who is also scum with them".

No. You die. I was probably roleblocked. I'm not lynching the slot that guarantees I'm not dead tonight.
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Post Post #18278 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:51 pm

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Also, Comm, no. I will not stop talking because to call me scum here is insulting. I know Math means no harm but it is still annoying.
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Post Post #18279 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:54 pm

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LUV, claim your build action and result.
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Post Post #18280 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:54 pm

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In post 18266, Vecna wrote:Are you in the neighbourhood with Ali again today Notice?
No, Ali wanted to go to someone he thought might be hit by the vig and I told him it was fine because I knew what RC was doing during the night.

I did not tell Ali how I knew, or even that I knew, just that it was ok to go to that person and to trust me.
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Post Post #18281 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:55 pm

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In post 18277, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 18265, Vecna wrote:Like....think about it.......

If scum really does have a roleblocker....

Why not just keep roleblocking DAVESAZ, and kill Leonshade the super-doctor - so they dont townconfirm 2 people that are widely suspected.

This nightphase play by scum was designed to stop an insta-lynch today on either RC or Nancy.

And why would scum totally ignore NoticeMeSenpai the doctor? Unless they knew he wasnt going to interfere with their plans?

The answer is simple; because Leonshade needed an excuse to have done an action, and Nancy/TB needed an excuse for there not to be a Zimbabwe.
Except Zimbabwe was confirmed to exist today. So no.

Leon is scum, you are scum, and your attempts to lynch anyone but your partner are fucking noted.

Like, this is exactly what scum will be doing today, having each other in their list and going "oh but we lynch this person instead who is also scum with them".

No. You die. I was probably roleblocked. I'm not lynching the slot that guarantees I'm not dead tonight.
And if you feel that Leonshade is scum, then why do you think it was me that saved him, as opposed to RC that spent all of last day to try and force my hand?

Why do you feel I wasnt pushed into this position by mathblade?
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Post Post #18282 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:55 pm

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In post 18267, Leonshade wrote:
In post 18265, Vecna wrote:Like....think about it.......

If scum really does have a roleblocker....

Why not just keep roleblocking DAVESAZ, and kill Leonshade the super-doctor - so they dont townconfirm 2 people that are widely suspected.

This nightphase play by scum was designed to stop an insta-lynch today on either RC or Nancy.

And why would scum totally ignore NoticeMeSenpai the doctor? Unless they knew he wasnt going to interfere with their plans?

The answer is simple; because Leonshade needed an excuse to have done an action, and Nancy/TB needed an excuse for there not to be a Zimbabwe.
If scum had killed me, davesaz would've gotten a result (as my rolestop would've stopped their RB on davesaz).

As for why scum ignored the possibility of Senpai doccing davesaz, that's a very good point, and why I initially thought that scum used the strongman vig instead of roleblocking me. It's also why I wanted to claim after LUV, so he couldn't have claimed to have gone for another wonder instead of the vig.
^scum shade. I was probably roleblocked.
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Post Post #18283 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:57 pm

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In post 18270, Vecna wrote:
In post 18267, Leonshade wrote:
In post 18265, Vecna wrote:Like....think about it.......

If scum really does have a roleblocker....

Why not just keep roleblocking DAVESAZ, and kill Leonshade the super-doctor - so they dont townconfirm 2 people that are widely suspected.

This nightphase play by scum was designed to stop an insta-lynch today on either RC or Nancy.

And why would scum totally ignore NoticeMeSenpai the doctor? Unless they knew he wasnt going to interfere with their plans?

The answer is simple; because Leonshade needed an excuse to have done an action, and Nancy/TB needed an excuse for there not to be a Zimbabwe.
If scum had killed me, davesaz would've gotten a result (as my rolestop would've stopped their RB on davesaz).

As for why scum ignored the possibility of Senpai doccing davesaz, that's a very good point, and why I initially thought that scum used the strongman vig instead of roleblocking me. It's also why I wanted to claim after LUV, so he couldn't have claimed to have gone for another wonder instead of the vig.
Oh ofcourse, that makes sense.
Does no one see this?

Like, I've felt like I've been going insane this whole fucking game and been pushed off my scumreads each time and this is so fucking
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like holy fuck.
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Post Post #18284 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:59 pm

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In post 18271, Vecna wrote:
In post 18269, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:All are so bad, like None is the best but scum are so ahead they don't care if they openly scum claim repeatedly.
LUV, both order and Autocracy are way better than Null
Order hurts town.
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Post Post #18285 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:00 pm

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In post 18274, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Order is irrelevant at that stage I feel and hurts the town that are part of neigborhoods.
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Post Post #18286 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:08 pm

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In post 18269, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:All are so bad, like None is the best but scum are so ahead they don't care if they openly scum claim repeatedly.
If going for something other than None is a scumclaim, who are the scum that are claiming? Name names, don't just throw shade in a vague manner. But then I doubt you actually believe what you're saying.
In post 18275, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:There is no case on me. It's just NAI bull which is why pushing on me should confirm what we all suspect.
If you're town, we want your real claim. The time for WIFOM bullshit is over, help town solve the claim or I'll assume you're scum.
In post 18282, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 18267, Leonshade wrote:
In post 18265, Vecna wrote:Like....think about it.......

If scum really does have a roleblocker....

Why not just keep roleblocking DAVESAZ, and kill Leonshade the super-doctor - so they dont townconfirm 2 people that are widely suspected.

This nightphase play by scum was designed to stop an insta-lynch today on either RC or Nancy.

And why would scum totally ignore NoticeMeSenpai the doctor? Unless they knew he wasnt going to interfere with their plans?

The answer is simple; because Leonshade needed an excuse to have done an action, and Nancy/TB needed an excuse for there not to be a Zimbabwe.
If scum had killed me, davesaz would've gotten a result (as my rolestop would've stopped their RB on davesaz).

As for why scum ignored the possibility of Senpai doccing davesaz, that's a very good point, and why I initially thought that scum used the strongman vig instead of roleblocking me. It's also why I wanted to claim after LUV, so he couldn't have claimed to have gone for another wonder instead of the vig.
^scum shade. I was probably roleblocked.
I'm town and telling the truth about my role. Assume I'm town; why do you think scum braved the dave kill?

And no, trying to solve the game isn't shade. It's possible that there was scum in your hood, and that's why they knew you wouldn't doc davesaz. It's possible you're scum and that's why dave was killed. And it's possible that scum simply made the guess that you wouldn't protect dave, since you claimed that you'd protect Ali all game.
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Post Post #18287 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:13 pm

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In post 18281, Vecna wrote:And if you feel that Leonshade is scum, then why do you think it was me that saved him, as opposed to RC that spent all of last day to try and force my hand?

Why do you feel I wasnt pushed into this position by mathblade?
You keep trying to deflect. This post is to both RC and Math.

RC was wrong. He has been before, more notably so as town.
Math was wrong. They're still fucking town.

You on the other hand seem to jump between scumreading your buddies yet pushing other fucking lynches. Math and RC are consistent and adhere to my known town meta of them.
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Post Post #18288 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:16 pm

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Jae's SR'd me as town before, but he keeps being tunneled on me and throwing shade on me for confbiased reasons. I've assumed that he's tunneled town, but I think town!Jae would be more open about the possibility of him being wrong about me. So many of his attacks start with the assumption that I'm scum and him spinning everything I do into being scummy.

Granted, I've done that as tunneled town before. I don't know that there's any other reason for me to believe he's scum, really, and the Creature defense reeked of town.
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Post Post #18289 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:17 pm

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You can clearly see whose voting what Leon, make your own conclusions.
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Post Post #18290 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:18 pm

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We're going to spend a long time with Ceasar today. The day ends with him being sorted or lynched.
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Post Post #18291 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:19 pm

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I'm not the one claiming that it's a scumclaim.

Five people have voted non-None thus far, you think the scumteam is {Ali, TB, Math, RC, CK}?

You've SR'd a lot of those people, but I don't think the whole scumteam, and only the scumteam, rushed in to vote while town decided to hang back.
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Post Post #18292 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:22 pm

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Why wouldn't a scum team rush to get straight to the Voting phase? This is MYLO.
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Post Post #18293 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:24 pm

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Wait, you all thinking about wagoning LUV?
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Post Post #18294 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:29 pm

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In post 18292, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why wouldn't a scum team rush to get straight to the Voting phase? This is MYLO.
Townies are going to have different opinions on mechanics. Even if scum want to push Freedom through right off the bat, there's bound to be town who will be swayed by them, or have similar motivations.

Scum wouldn't need to push Freedom through at this stage to win, they could just vote None or Autocracy if they wanted to get straight to the voting. Scum doesn't even necessarily need daytalk to win at this point, though I'm sure they'd prefer to keep it.
Creature wrote:Wait, you all thinking about wagoning LUV?
He wouldn't be my first choice for today, though I'm coming around to him being scum.
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Post Post #18295 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:34 pm

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Did nobody go for the Big Ben? I would've assumed that town!LUV would go for Big Ben, if not the vig.
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Post Post #18296 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:39 pm

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Freedom in this case I feel scum can freely push because they know they can use it as ammo against the members of the town who opposed it for when we can actually vote.
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Post Post #18297 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:54 pm

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In post 18283, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 18270, Vecna wrote:
In post 18267, Leonshade wrote:
In post 18265, Vecna wrote:Like....think about it.......

If scum really does have a roleblocker....

Why not just keep roleblocking DAVESAZ, and kill Leonshade the super-doctor - so they dont townconfirm 2 people that are widely suspected.

This nightphase play by scum was designed to stop an insta-lynch today on either RC or Nancy.

And why would scum totally ignore NoticeMeSenpai the doctor? Unless they knew he wasnt going to interfere with their plans?

The answer is simple; because Leonshade needed an excuse to have done an action, and Nancy/TB needed an excuse for there not to be a Zimbabwe.
If scum had killed me, davesaz would've gotten a result (as my rolestop would've stopped their RB on davesaz).

As for why scum ignored the possibility of Senpai doccing davesaz, that's a very good point, and why I initially thought that scum used the strongman vig instead of roleblocking me. It's also why I wanted to claim after LUV, so he couldn't have claimed to have gone for another wonder instead of the vig.
Oh ofcourse, that makes sense.
Does no one see this?

Like, I've felt like I've been going insane this whole fucking game and been pushed off my scumreads each time and this is so fucking
blatant
like holy fuck.
I didnt push you off your scumreads a single time Notice. When did I ever push you off your scumreads? I was right there alongside you pushing on Leonshade the entire day when he was a real option, while it was MATHBLADE and RC that tried to force-stop that wagon.

Alisae couldve hammered Leonshade that day. He chose not to. Even though he was voting Leonshade for most of the day, when he could finally hammer he joined the KidAmn wagon.

So how come youre directing this at me, but not at ANY of them? Its either because youre confbiased or you dont care to discredit your scumbuddies or the people that youre trying to pocket.

And you can see it, im not always flawless with my logic on the go. Big boo-hoo. Should I stubbornly keep pushing my logic even though its wrong, or should I not be an infant and admit when I make a mistake in my thinking?
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Post Post #18298 (ISO) » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:59 pm

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In post 18287, NoticeMeSenpai wrote:
In post 18281, Vecna wrote:And if you feel that Leonshade is scum, then why do you think it was me that saved him, as opposed to RC that spent all of last day to try and force my hand?

Why do you feel I wasnt pushed into this position by mathblade?
You keep trying to deflect. This post is to both RC and Math.

RC was wrong. He has been before, more notably so as town.
Math was wrong. They're still fucking town.

You on the other hand seem to jump between scumreading your buddies yet pushing other fucking lynches. Math and RC are consistent and adhere to my known town meta of them.
I keep jumping around, yes. Thats what happens when you get new information, and you have to deal with Mathblade stubbornly misreading your ass.
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Post Post #18299 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:01 am

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In post 18296, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Freedom in this case I feel scum can freely push because they know they can use it as ammo against the members of the town who opposed it for when we can actually vote.
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