Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

Leonshade · Post Post #18450 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:15 am

LUV's explanation of his motives is making me reconsider my SR on him. It's also coinciding with scummy as fuck CK's push on him, so scum might just be trying to set him up as the designated mislynch for today.

CK's entrance is him coming in to push a ridiculous idea in conftown Creature being scum with an unrealistic amount of confidence. The confidence based on so little strikes me as unrealistic, and managing to push a scumread on the one conftown player in the game strikes me as a bit too convenient, could be scum trying to dumbtell ignorance of the gamestate.

Pushing multiball/third parties for no reason other than flavor.

Now pushing LUV as scum for some pretty weak reasons (appealing to self-meta and defending himself on the account of nobody defending him, both of which are NAI) with a LOT of confidence. For someone who just replaced in and claims not to have finished reading the game yet, the amount of confidence based on so little seems forced.

The confidence that LUV has to be Lighthouse also seems fake, there are plenty of other Wonders LUV could have even if scum.

Vecna · Post Post #18451 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:15 am

In post 18448, RadiantCowbells wrote:If that vote applies I have no qualms dayvigging you as soon as the thing pops up since if you're town you enable a blitz and if you're scum you dying helps me.

Its 7v5, a blitz is a myth in this scenario.

MathBlade · Post Post #18452 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:15 am

Leon do you think I am Town?

Leonshade · Post Post #18453 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:16 am

In post 18452, MathBlade wrote:Leon do you think I am Town?

Yup.

MathBlade · Post Post #18454 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:17 am

In post 18453, Leonshade wrote:
In post 18452, MathBlade wrote:Leon do you think I am Town?
Yup.

Vote LUV with me then. I trust CK because reasons.

MathBlade · Post Post #18455 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:18 am

In post 18451, Vecna wrote:
In post 18448, RadiantCowbells wrote:If that vote applies I have no qualms dayvigging you as soon as the thing pops up since if you're town you enable a blitz and if you're scum you dying helps me.
Its 7v5, a blitz is a myth in this scenario.

PV is dead scums probably

He hasn't even been keeping regular prod activity XD

Vecna · Post Post #18456 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:18 am

Math, do you agree with my assesment that there is only 1 scum in Gorkington/LUV?

Because they both claim to have been targeted by the Forbidden Palace.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #18457 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:19 am

like most of the time I would love to be put blitzable so I can go appear offline and surprise dayvig a blitz attempt but I'm approaching exams and odn't have much time to sit on the game.

MathBlade · Post Post #18458 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:19 am

In post 18456, Vecna wrote:Math, do you agree with my assesment that there is only 1 scum in Gorkington/LUV?

Because they both claim to have been targeted by the Forbidden Palace.

No.

At least one yes.
Only one. No.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #18459 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:19 am

In post 18456, Vecna wrote:Math, do you agree with my assesment that there is only 1 scum in Gorkington/LUV?

Because they both claim to have been targeted by the Forbidden Palace.

Counterproposal: BOTH claimed to have been targeted by the forbidden palace so that whichever one we lynched, the other would be semicleared.

MathBlade · Post Post #18460 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:20 am

In post 18459, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 18456, Vecna wrote:Math, do you agree with my assesment that there is only 1 scum in Gorkington/LUV?

Because they both claim to have been targeted by the Forbidden Palace.
Counterproposal: BOTH claimed to have been targeted by the forbidden palace so that whichever one we lynched, the other would be semicleared.

Brain sync for the wins.

:highfive:

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #18461 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:20 am

notice that this situation coincides with the only wagon that I actually think is on town being myself

MathBlade · Post Post #18462 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:22 am

In post 18461, RadiantCowbells wrote:notice that this situation coincides with the only wagon that I actually think is on town being myself

Then join the shiny LUV wagon...It has cookies

And a likely scum flip

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #18463 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:23 am

I'm fine on principle with LUV wagon because I don't understand why scum would actually have forbidden palaced him to give the dayvig to me instead and I feel like other shenanigans are going on but there's stuff that I need to talk about with hoodmates before we start wagoning anyone

MathBlade · Post Post #18464 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:24 am

VOTE: Unvote

Fine

I just finally after almost 19000 posts get to lynch a top tier scumread I got excited.

Spoiler: Cookies

Leonshade · Post Post #18465 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:28 am

In post 18454, MathBlade wrote:
In post 18453, Leonshade wrote:
In post 18452, MathBlade wrote:Leon do you think I am Town?
Yup.
Vote LUV with me then. I trust CK because reasons.

Sorry, but I don't want to sheep at this point. It's MYLO, I'd prefer to win or lose by my own reads.

In post 18458, MathBlade wrote:
In post 18456, Vecna wrote:Math, do you agree with my assesment that there is only 1 scum in Gorkington/LUV?

Because they both claim to have been targeted by the Forbidden Palace.
No.

At least one yes.
Only one. No.

This is where I'm at (I missed Gork's claim the first time through). Though I think I'm more confident in Gork lying than LUV, as I think the strongman dayvig would've been a higher priority for the scum than Big Ben. Big Ben has very little utility to scum after massclaim, it will only really catch scum that is lying about their role, and it can be roleblocked. Whereas the strongman vig could've gotten us our first scum flip.

MathBlade · Post Post #18466 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:30 am

In post 18465, Leonshade wrote:
In post 18454, MathBlade wrote:
In post 18453, Leonshade wrote:
In post 18452, MathBlade wrote:Leon do you think I am Town?
Yup.
Vote LUV with me then. I trust CK because reasons.
Sorry, but I don't want to sheep at this point. It's MYLO, I'd prefer to win or lose by my own reads.

In post 18458, MathBlade wrote:
In post 18456, Vecna wrote:Math, do you agree with my assesment that there is only 1 scum in Gorkington/LUV?

Because they both claim to have been targeted by the Forbidden Palace.
No.

At least one yes.
Only one. No.
This is where I'm at (I missed Gork's claim the first time through). Though I think I'm more confident in Gork lying than LUV, as I think the strongman dayvig would've been a higher priority for the scum than Big Ben. Big Ben has very little utility to scum after massclaim, it will only really catch scum that is lying about their role, and it can be roleblocked. Whereas the strongman vig could've gotten us our first scum flip.

A)PV is prob scum.
B) It is LyLO/MyLO so unless you make a case that convinces me your read will have scum on it to go through.

MathBlade · Post Post #18467 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:30 am

If it is *

Phone you suck

Vecna · Post Post #18468 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:33 am

Were not lynching anyone regardless untill we see RC's vigshot go off.

Leonshade · Post Post #18469 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:34 am

In post 18392, CommKnight wrote:
In post 18389, Creature wrote:Wait, RC claimed dayvig?

Then WTF was LUV?

I think LUV is Lighthouse (scum day chat) and pretending to fail.

You claim that Gork should've been lynched by now, so why do you think LUV is Lighthouse instead of Gork? Both are in a position where they could be lying about their claims.

MathBlade · Post Post #18470 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:35 am

In post 18468, Vecna wrote:Were not lynching anyone regardless untill we see RC's vigshot go off.

Nah I am okay without it going off. You would be an excellent vig if it had to but I townread RC enough.

In fact I am okay with RC not firing until Creature is dead.

MathBlade · Post Post #18471 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:36 am

RC needs to shoot during the day or hold until Creature is dead IMHO.

Vecna · Post Post #18472 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:36 am

At any rate, Notice + Nancy + RC are probably still scum together regardless of what you people are cooking up.

The claim that Nancy wanted to "check whether it was actually built, before building it for real" is totally laughable.

MathBlade · Post Post #18473 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:40 am

In post 18472, Vecna wrote:At any rate, Notice + Nancy + RC are probably still scum together regardless of what you people are cooking up.

The claim that Nancy wanted to "check whether it was actually built, before building it for real" is totally laughable.

Your scum flip will be so fucking sweet after all this resistance.

Vecna · Post Post #18474 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:41 am

In post 18459, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 18456, Vecna wrote:Math, do you agree with my assesment that there is only 1 scum in Gorkington/LUV?

Because they both claim to have been targeted by the Forbidden Palace.
Counterproposal: BOTH claimed to have been targeted by the forbidden palace so that whichever one we lynched, the other would be semicleared.

And this is also exactly what scum wouldve done with the Bolshoi.

Forbidden palace a person, let another person claim it, put bolshoi on one + a towny. Win the game