Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Vecna]

At any rate, Notice + Nancy + RC are probably still scum together regardless of what you people are cooking up.

The claim that Nancy wanted to "check whether it was actually built, before building it for real" is totally laughable.

Your scum flip will be so fucking sweet after all this resistance.

Youre so naive

[Vecna]

But hey, keep on dreaming up scenario's where PV is scum and were not about to loose.

Also, why is Ceasar still not force-replaced

[MathBlade]

Math, do you agree with my assesment that there is only 1 scum in Gorkington/LUV?

Because they both claim to have been targeted by the Forbidden Palace.

Counterproposal: BOTH claimed to have been targeted by the forbidden palace so that whichever one we lynched, the other would be semicleared.

And this is also exactly what scum wouldve done with the Bolshoi.

Forbidden palace a person, let another person claim it, put bolshoi on one + a towny. Win the game

Oh I am pretty sure I am Bolshoi'd which is why we have to be careful and do what we want not scum which is we lynch LUV.

[MathBlade]

But hey, keep on dreaming up scenario's where PV is scum and were not about to loose.

Also, why is Ceasar still not force-replaced

Ask the mod.

And we aren't.

[Leonshade]

But why not lynch Creature's roleblock target all these days?

Counter-wagons, and CR sowing chaos with wanting Nero lynched.

It went like this:

Big wagon on Gorkington that nearly reached a lynch. Then popped up a Leonshade wagon. They went head to head.

Then RC replaced in, and started pushing Nero Cain. Nero cain flipped town.

When you put it like that, there's a decent chance that I was the counterwagon to Gorkington. Though it wouldn't be the first time that one town wagon was switched to another (happened with Yuri/beeboy, me/KidAmn and davesaz/Sondam at least).

Why is Nero's case for town!Kyouko so convincing to you that you're still TRing him, when you also seemed really confident on Gork before, but are now doubting it?

[MathBlade]

He had to Leon.

Vecna refused to work with the logical possibilities and now that he has he is outing himself further as scum by voting RC.

[MathBlade]

Let me rephrase why science is bad for town: Scum is going to have daychat. As soon as they know what wonders come up during the next day, they have -5- persons to strategize how to obtain the most powerfull wonders for themselves.

Any vote for a resolution is a scumvote from here on out.

it is so decreed by me, vecna

Remember you caught this before Leonshade.

[RadiantCowbells]

Math what if Vecna's town and LUV's scum?

[MathBlade]

Math what if Vecna's town and LUV's scum?

I find that highly unlikely given Vecna's unprompted townread of LuV based on shit posts.

[MathBlade]

Like I would have to see a flip to believe that but if Vecna is Creature is finally conf Town

[MathBlade]

Let it go LUV, absolutely noone is going to scumread me over something so obvious and trivial.

I know, but its not required

(but you did manage to become my strongest townread after only 3 pages so kudos for that)

What I am referring to

[RadiantCowbells]

I have a scumteam I believe in right now and Vecna's not on it

[CommKnight]

@Math, Why scum read Vecna and not Leone? We need to come together on this day of all days.

[RadiantCowbells]

if I end up dying during the night at any point consider Notice confirmed scum.

let's vote LUV.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: LUV

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: All posts by LUV up to that point

Hey guys

What's shaking?

Sounds like a bad idea.

VOTE: None

Agreed with Math. Picking a resolution to minimize scum harm is playing to not lose. Picking what's best for town is playing to win.

What's wrong with playing not to lose? Isn't playing optimally always better?

@mod If Arts is chosen, will a vote/lynch mechanic still be available during MYLO/LYLO?

Why does it seem like you're thinking so far ahead?

The majority of the Anicent Era Wonders suck

We can but we most likely won't. That is asking for a lot.

Playing not to lose is playing smart. Playing to win is gambling.

Sciences just leads to distractions. Gives scum an excuse to look like they're doing something.

I full heartedly disagree. There's already awesome stuff now, and town can coordinate. There's two wonders I would want personally from this stage here. Who said wonders go up in value as time progresses?

For instance, sciences with the neighborizer can coordinate and form a masonry. Sciences with the Stonehenge can publicly cop who takes a scummy role if they die at night. The doctor can heal prime targets for good role acquisition. (If someone says, I am really good at X and wants it, the doctor can keep them alive).

It may not be traditional coordinating and leashing but it still is coordinating.

~Titus

All of them are awesome theory wise but have the potential to really swing the game into scums favor. There is only one Wonder this era that is guaranteed to help town and screw scum.

I didn't notice Vecna was the first one to say 5 either. To be fair, me, him, and Maria just finished a game together where there were 20+ players and we were on a scum team of 5.

MB and Titus were also in that game.

We don't need information, we just need to force scum to beat us with strong Day play.

Let it go LUV, absolutely noone is going to scumread me over something so obvious and trivial.

I was actually defending you

@RC I am assuming Creature is not in it if you think Vecna is town.

You and Senpai and Alisae wouldn't be in it...

So the rest of the team you are suggesting would be in the leftovers.

[Vecna]

I have a scumteam I believe in right now and Vecna's not on it

What is this scumteam? Let me guess, it includes pv?

[RadiantCowbells]

There's no benefit to outing it today.

I can lynch Gorkington or Caesar today if you'd prefer it Vecna

[MathBlade]

if I end up dying during the night at any point consider Notice confirmed scum.

let's vote LUV.

@Math, Why scum read Vecna and not Leone? We need to come together on this day of all days.

Vecna has been hard defending LUV since breathing.

Ever since I scumread LUV Vecna has been an intentional thorn in my side.

Leon pointed out the problem with Vecna at the start and Vecna countered with a PV kill.

That is how I see this going down.

[RadiantCowbells]

Math if one of your townreads flips scum will you trust me?

[MathBlade]

There's no benefit to outing it today.

I can lynch Gorkington or Caesar today if you'd prefer it Vecna

Luv please.

Caesar I have a feeling is Town.
Gorkington while likely can be done tomorrow.
LUv I fear if we don't lynch him today and Vecna is still alive I don't think we will.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am fine with LUV.
I don't want to hipfire on a shot that I'm not 100% on when we might need my shot to prevent endgame.
In hindsight I couldn't make a team with Nero yesterday and I should have read into that but I was too tunneled

[MathBlade]

Math if one of your townreads flips scum will you trust me?

I trust you not immediately killing Vecna.

I have been arguing LUV scum since day one.

Asking me to vote a townread if I am wrong on PV costs us the game.

I think you are Town and trust you but LUv is the only person I am interested in right now.

[MathBlade]

I am fine with LUV.
I don't want to hipfire on a shot that I'm not 100% on when we might need my shot to prevent endgame.
In hindsight I couldn't make a team with Nero yesterday and I should have read into that but I was too tunneled

Honestly Nero scumread me so him here would be we lose.

[RadiantCowbells]

I really, really, really want to get the Alisae hoods into public knowledge