Real Folk Blues Rematch [GAME OVER]

[Scott and Ramona]

There is nothing overly aware about wanting to go over a read with my partner...

No, but saying "to avoid hydra dissonance" is scummy as hell. It's way to self aware. There's no need to point out you're going over a read to avoid dissonance. None. Just say you'll talk about it with someone.

Specifically talking over reads to avoid dissonance is just concern with how you appear.

-Ribbit

Each his own then

- Scott

[Scott and Ramona]

Spoiler:

@Majiffy: Yeah basically. And I'm not encouraging anyone to spam, I'm just saying it shouldn't be a surprise there is going to be some spamming and trying to regulate it does no one any good.

How does telling people not to spam not do anyone any good?

It's very simple: just don't fuckin' do it. Just don't. Really that easy.

And then the thread doesn't get bloated. Then townies don't replace out. Then town doesn't lose moral and allow scum to just coast to victory like in GM III

It literally does town lots and lots of good and there's no valid argument you can put forth against that.

It does no one any good because you're under the assumption that people are going to listen to you when they either have no read on you or scum read you. Even if they town read you, people aren't always going to compromise just for you. We have players in this game that like to post a lot and often, some of that posting contains shit posting and spam.
Dude we only have 51 posts and counting..

- Scott

- Scott

The read on my slot should be irrelevant to the fact that

IT LITERALLY IS PROVABLE TO BE ANTI-TOWN AND A BAD FUCKING IDEA

But hey maybe you're right and if you're going to keep insisting on spamming the fucking game then I'm fucking done, too.

@Mod: Replace me. Sorry. Was excited to play, love Cowboy Bebop, but I'm not playing another game with players that shit up the thread 100 pages per day phase.

There is literally NO point to this post other than just being a general dick.

@Mod -- can you tell Scott to stop quoting posts and then just putting the word Scott

Yeah you're tunneled man

- Scott

[Gamma Emerald]

Why does everyone scumread the LUV hydra?

[Wall]

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_|___|___|plays as town? Frogger is|___|___|
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Cause this isn't how LUV plays as town? Frogger is also making specific points so I don't really get the point of your question.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not seeing the points though
I'll reread frogger's recent posts I guess

[Scott and Ramona]

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___|___|Cause this isn't how LUV|___|___|_
_|___|___|plays as town? Frogger is|___|___|
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_|___|___|so I don't really get the|___|___|
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Cause this isn't how LUV plays as town? Frogger is also making specific points so I don't really get the point of your question.

How do I play? I'm one of the hardest people to read on this site so I'd like to hear this one

- Scott

[Wall]

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[Gamma Emerald]

I guess it's based on his NF read? I don't agree with his read but it's hard reason to scumread him.

[Scott and Ramona]

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___|___|You don't sound like you did|___|_
_|___| in Civ/in general convo at all.|___|
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_|___|___| Also, your angles are|___|___|___|
___|___|___|really really shit so far.|___|___|_
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You were scum in Civ, you weren't trying to read me there..

Why have they been shit?

- Scott

[Scott and Ramona]

I've also mentioned quite a bit in site chat specifically that Civ is an outlier. I trolled quite a bit after the middle of Day 2 which is why I had over 2000 posts.

- Scott

[Wall]

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___|I can get a grasp of someone's|___|___|_
_|tone from playing with them as scum.|___|
___|___|Your NF vote is garbage.|___|___|_
_|___|And you not giving me shit for|___|
___|___|calling it garbage is bad too.|___|_
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I can get a grasp of someone's tone from playing with them as scum. Your NF vote is garbage. And you not givingme shit for calling it garbage is bad too.

[Scott and Ramona]

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___|I can get a grasp of someone's|___|___|_
_|tone from playing with them as scum.|___|
___|___|Your NF vote is garbage.|___|___|_
_|___|And you not giving me shit for|___|
___|___|calling it garbage is bad too.|___|_
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I can get a grasp of someone's tone from playing with them as scum. Your NF vote is garbage. And you not givingme shit for calling it garbage is bad too.

Not with that game as an example, especially after you subbed in way after Day 2. What part of outlier do you not understand, Wall?

Why is my vote garbage?

[Scott and Ramona]

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___|I can get a grasp of someone's|___|___|_
_|tone from playing with them as scum.|___|
___|___|Your NF vote is garbage.|___|___|_
_|___|And you not giving me shit for|___|
___|___|calling it garbage is bad too.|___|_
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I can get a grasp of someone's tone from playing with them as scum. Your NF vote is garbage. And you not givingme shit for calling it garbage is bad too.

Not with that game as an example, especially after you subbed in way after Day 2. What part of outlier do you not understand, Wall?

Why is my vote garbage?

- Scott

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess it's based on his NF read? I don't agree with his read but it's hardly reason to scumread him.

Ebwodp

[Not Fury]

Don't bother to sign a post if it's going to take up another. In the end, your slot has the same role.

[Scott and Ramona]

Don't bother to sign a post if it's going to take up another. In the end, your slot has the same role.

I will continue to do so until the mod tells me to stop.

- Scott

[Hiraki]

Reading now - please don't post 20 more pages in between now and 2 AM.

[SlySly]

Sly, Doggo's context was this:

all u had to say was "no!!! wtf!!! i'm VT!!!" and you'd have massive towncred from everyone in the game

and you just admitted that your reads were reachy too

Don't say he slipped his reads were reachy. That's not what he said.

I read that single post as inclusive. Reading it all again, I agree he used "too" as another element to add against Ram, not to self incriminate.

[Ramcius]

the above is a scumclaim

VOTE: ramcius

i keep thinking he might be overzealous town and lynchbait, as per usual but every single post he makes pings me to no end. like i have sorted him games i've played even though i wasn't in a town slot. i got town from reading him. quickly.

this time. not so much. scumfuck mcgee posts all over the place. the most recent one basically seals the deal.

probably staying here for a while until giga has time to talk to me.

Look, Trans! I have a TR on your slot for <reasons>, so let me remind you of our last game together where Scum!Me easily managed to mislynch Town!Ram for this exact posting style. I would have expected you to know better and wait for someone else to make a push and then evaluate that someone else's behaviour.

In other words, let's leave Ram for scum to sort him out. If he doesn't get pushed he needs to be copped or investigated by some means, but I certainly am not interested in lynching him on D1 in this game.

i like last paragraph - "if no one push Ram, we can ML him later, he's playstyle is scummy af, so that won't be difficult"

btw, don't take credit for my lynch in Spies, i got lynched for pushing 1v1 Nero, you were more concerned on my SR on you

[Siblings Quarrel]

Do not hammer yourself if you are really a cop. I will defend you to the end of the Earth.

VOTE: Gamma

Gamma is scummy as all fuck. I know I'm not the only one that sees this. I've been giving gamma a pass because in the past, he always pinged me hard as hell and I'd SR him. He eventually always flipped town though. So I was ignoring him thinking maybe he's just a scummy player in general, but I cant keep ignoring this shit. Gamma is not town. Like Almost50 just gave an excuse for Ram to be scummy af as if that's okay and he's never scum for it (bullshit), but Gamma's posts are just as bad if not worse. Seriously, someone iso him and tell me he's town. Give reasons. Otherwise he's obvious as hell to me.

Read his posts and see how he calls every player under the sun town or acts super friendly toward them, and notice that he hasn't SR anyone and has made no attempt whatsoever at finding scum. He hasn't even made a single accusation. Its all neutral lukewarm shit that is completely useless. He's fluff the entire way.

He needs to be lynched. He has the second highest post count after doggo, but it's ALL trash. Every single post he makes is shit. Its either not game related, neutral in every way, or calling someone town. He has zero scum reads and has not looked for scum at all. 125 posts of fluff trash.

Side note: lynching him helps make the thread easier to read for all. Its like a bonus with lynching obvious scum.

He needs to go. ISO him and see for yourself. Seriously, this is the worst I've ever seen gamma do this, and I searched his iso for anything that wasn't completely useless. I came up with nothing.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TYWIN IS CATCHING SCUMS WITH ME!
In all seriousness, as much as I agree on this read, next time, can you case someone without saying "they have the highest post count in the game and the gamethread will be easier to read" or something along those lines pretty please?

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You just were not being towny enough so I pushed.

Who was being townie by p2?

Self-aware: I don't think I'm considered "lynch bait" but I'm not a super difficult lynch either. I think I'm in the inbetween zone where its not so scummy to push me but am easy to hedge on and it is not an impossibility that you'd do that again.

I just wanted to make it clear, like I know you had already claimed reaction test here and all but

I feel like Rach's concerns at the time were genuine,

Ali knowing you were reaction testing me and the trying to sheep/buddy you is scummy as fuck.

I wasn't reaction testing you...I don't really know what you're talking about. I'm scumreading you because your tone is just off from what I've seen in Civ and a lot more similar to NY199 and The Game of Spies.

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Um, Hello? Is anyone else's bullshit sensor going crazy? I've made it very clear that I scumread doggo and I did scumread NF until he crumbed. You can't say that I haven't been pushing anyone. That's just being ignorant, if you're not mafia.

Your ISO is the biggest scum tell in mafia history. Anyone that looks at it should SR you or they're your buddies. Its so obvious that it's ridiculous.

I ignore your shit vote on NF since they claimed. Diego is obvious town based on the read list, which they're the only person to do it. That one post had more content than 125 of yours. Seriously,your ISO is absolutely damning.

Tywin, you know I love you an all, but like, just because someone defends someone who you think is scum doesn't mean they're scum together. I tell you this all the time but you never listen to me =(
With that said, I would love to push this slot with you.

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So it doesn't count because you townread it?
You're scum.
VOTE: Tywin Lannister

THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF PURE OMGUS. OMGUS AT IT'S CORE.

[Hiraki]

As a full disclosure, I have not watched the entire of Cowboy Bebop but I have been meaning to for awhile now so I'll hop on it whenever possible. I will be useless for flavor purposes for the time being. If this changes, you all will know.

trans and i are absolutely stumped why was this post even necessary

Fuck man - we agree hard here.

I'm stumpt ast to why posts are expected to be necessary and useful on page 2 and 3. I mean, look at rbs posts. Or Neros Posts. Wowie, useful posting in RVS. or not useful posting in RVS.

This isn't a great defense because there's a difference in posting. Your post was 100% serious but also 100% useless - no offense.

RVS post?

I don't really get the point of attributing a post in itself to RVS.

It's very concerning that by Page 5 in a game where we vehemently disagreed on everything about one another that we're agreeing to any extent in this game.

I think Siblings is reacting to the abnormally Large wagon on them and you are scumreading that for some reason
Both of you seem Town.

If Siblings flips town, this requires death.

I feel like everyone us sucking up to Doggo.

I don't like this.

Not a fan of doggo's way of informing me of Sibling's push. Feels like trying to turn us against each other.
VOTE: Chairman Doggo

oh no !!!

I found moar scum

I agree with this.

YOU LITTERALLY JUST CALLED ME AND GIGGLES A TVT WITH SURFACE LEVEL ANALYSIS.
TO LITTERALLY JUST BACK OUT OF THAT CLAIM
BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT BACK THAT UP.

Didn't agree with this until the vote.

I think Siblings is town for 38 but I'll keep reading.

Don't mind you calling him town - just not OK with the reasoning. I'm not sure which is worse at this point, Gamma's little fling or this.

Getting town vibes off of RachMarie.

Don't really agree with the Kidamn stuff. Agree that Ramicus said stupid things, not scummy.

FUCK I WAS SPOOKED

same

Note to self: beware drunk posters.

How did you not note this before??

That sure sounds like he is trying to avoid answering a SIMPLE question I asked TWICE.

I hate this post.

I have been asleep for more of this game than I have been awake and you have posted 19 goddamn pages in that time. Anyone who thinks requiring sleep and working is a good reason for a wagon should go back to EpicMafia tbh.

Lynch with FIRE.

I think the arguments about KidAMN caring so much about the page counts are dumb.

Tywin is town

Bad, but town

Agree.

PSA: The Bebop thread had scum in it in the 1st run of this setup. No guarantee that element is the same this time around (or that the Bebop thread even exists), but it could be.

OK?????

I like Not Fury's postings.

Disagree with the notion that Ramicus is scum. I think he is lynchbait.

@Mod: I noticed this earlier and realized no one pointed it out. SQ refers to Siblings Quarrel.

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___|___|Is anyone townreading|___|__
_|___|___|Ram? If so, please|___|___|
___|___|talk more about why.|___|__
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I will do this in my next post considering its 230 and I'm not done yet.

Almost50's ISO don't contain any scumhunting. It's just talking about non-alignment indicative stuff.

This is what I said while skimming his posts and not reading them.

I'm at Page 40 at this point and I know when I go to bed, 10 more pages will be here. So I'll stop here for tonight. Not even getting into reads because I don't think they're truly formed yet. I need sleep.

[Ramcius]

sidenote: if you're town, please at least do a bebop wiki search on your character, so you can be crumbed to and actually fucking understand

THIS GAME IS VERY FLAVOUR INTENSIVE, ITS IMPORTANT

why it's important? rolefishing?

[Not Fury]

Definitely have to say that Hiraki shares a lot of the same impressions that I had . Obviously, I'll reserve a read on him for tomorrow though due to lost post count and I'm wayyyy too tired to analyze shit atm. Have to say, I am starting to understand the pleas to reduce shitposting - don't make a worthless comment on something equally worthless. And if you do, then please contain it in the body of post that does something. Now, I think we will stop (possibly) scaring away the lurkers.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I'll try to sort all the active slots rn, because I want to have solid reads

[Chairman Doggo]

Thank God that Hiraki is town again

If he's scum that means he's a god at faking progression.

Anyways, I look forward to this Town!Ram case, because his posts heavily ping me, but it's to the point that I'm really not sure if he'd be this legitimately shit as scum.

Also giga wasn't on all day today so they have not responded to anything in our PT.