Real Folk Blues Rematch [GAME OVER]

[Master Vampire]

Twin, your entrance was some hot garbage. You summarized a few events of the game prior to your post without using them to make a point and voted one of the townier slots for "hurr shitposting". In #782 you tell Ram that Doggo is town based on how bad Ram's reads always are and then vote him. Well which is it, town Ram with shit reads or scum? You also bring up the possibility of multiball in that post which you just conveniently ignored when you blew up on us for scumreading both you and Gamma. I'm allowed to scumread you two independently regardless. It's not like Gamma has flipped yet. You're right though. You caught Gamma so hard that our vote and explanation on gamma were retroactively edited into our posts from before you said anything about him. We highlighted a post of Gamma's we didn't like and said there are others that bug us. How is that any different than your glorious "just go iso gamma" case? I wasn't trying to take credit for shit nor trying to create any false associations, but it sure looks like you are. You also throw shade on obvtown Rach at some point which is a big nono.

Do you think scum!tywin would immediately draw the conclusion that he and gamma are being accused of being scumbuddies? I feel like scum would be too hyper-aware of the fact that the game is like 99% sure to be multiball.

Let Socrates catch up pls

It's a lot easier to catch up over night than during day

It's trying to switch me onto SQ after making a statement that was intended to flip my opinion, after I had expressed a rather firm read.

So, they're scum for playing mafia, but besides playing mafia, their push didn't involve scummy motives or moves, but they're scum for playing mafia...

Let's note that I've expanded my scumread. Go to my readslist and open the third spoiler.

I don't like this post at alllll


I'm really not understanding how the sly wagon came to be or why everyone switched to it. Feels like a CW.

~nos

[davesaz]

@rb:
That's the spirit, any scum will do.

Am I on track with Rach being town? I could ctrl-f your iso's but I'm lazy tonight.

New todo: read Tywin. But probably tomorrow afternoon, I need to get up early for an appointment.

Wow this post pinged me as scum soooo fucking hard

Umm, what?
Seriously it's this kind of post from you that drives me batshit.
What the fuck pings you about that?

[Titus]

@Nero Post 1648 got wrecked up. Did you intend to vote Sly?

[davesaz]

Same question goes for Titus.
I'm here working my ass off for for a couple hours, it doesn't get any more genuine than this, and

now

you don't like it?

[rb]

@rb:
That's the spirit, any scum will do.

Am I on track with Rach being town? I could ctrl-f your iso's but I'm lazy tonight.

New todo: read Tywin. But probably tomorrow afternoon, I need to get up early for an appointment.

Wow this post pinged me as scum soooo fucking hard

Umm, what?
Seriously it's this kind of post from you that drives me batshit.
What the fuck pings you about that?

Sorry dude, it is most likely a personality thing.

If I actually offended you really sorry

[Nero Cain]

@Nero Post 1648 got wrecked up. Did you intend to vote Sly?

no, I was quoting tywin or trying to atleaset.

[davesaz]

I could understand it better if you'd give a why instead of just saying posts ping you.
Maybe I was a little strong, it's late at night and it's nowhere near the response I expected...
We seemed to be mutual TRs earlier and I just figured when I only have a clue on half a dozen people, ask them if they think I'm on the same page.

[davesaz]

Nero, if you're still here, 3 top town reads please?

[Nero Cain]

Rach, Kid, Chara

[Nero Cain]

not counting the claimed masons

[mhsmith0]

Just read through Gamma's ISO, mostly out of context, but it seems like a pretty scummy ISO. There's a tonne of fluff, and posts relevant to actual discussion have little to no basis, frequently contradict older posts,

or are poor reactions to stimuli.

VOTE: Gamma
~Nos

Nos, could you clarify this and/or give specific examples of what you were seeing there?

I don't like this post at alllll

Also this one? Gamma's 1547 seems meh on the surface, but not especially terrible; I'm not really sure why you really dislike it.

[Not Fury]

masons claimed? I saw people talking about that and assumed it was troll.

[Nero Cain]

Titus and RB are something. Doesn't really matter if its masons or what.

Why did you start scum reading me NF?

[rb]

Yeah dave i get it, you just were inactive and it felt like the most randomass buddying but if youd been catching up it makes total sense

[SlySly]

SQ is obvtown.

[Not Fury]

ok so what is your point here? That I'm scum lurking? Well if you thought that then why are you going about it in such a roundabout way? What it looks like to me is that you are trying to curry favor with Doggo and I don't see the town motivation in that.

vote:Gamma

This post in context made me feel like the defense was a reach or something I forgot atm. I'm not in the best mental state to respond, so I'll get back to you in the morning

[Not Fury]

SQ is obvtown.

Really? I wouldn't even call him town, let alone obvtown. Explain

[mhsmith0]

SQ is obvtown.

OK and thoughts about things other than slots that aren't being wagoned? I mean technically I should UNVOTE: them I guess, but what are your thoughts on literally anything else of substance? Do you agree or disagree with nos's thought that you're the CW to gamma? Do you think the wagon on you is scum driven? And if so, where are the scum on your wagon?

[Not Fury]

Actually, a slysly scum flip means Nero is prob scum team and SQ has a chance of being scum teamed because of these posts (and maybe others, idk atm):

Plus Gamma, you're talking about an RVS wagon.
Those almost never go through.
-Ali
pedit: Gamma has way more content then SlySly. Way more. SlySly is just a low information lynch that we get nothing out of, and there are methods to sorting that. The better play is to lynch Gamma, who believe it or not, is more likely scum then SlySly. @Doggo

pedit2: Doggo started the counterwagon and the way they did it suggests that they're trying to save Gamma. @Wall

pedit3: His early stance on me vs Giga was complete bullshit, with low level surface analysis, and when they got pressed on it, they tried to find a way out. @Dave

Wall it's nothing I really feel confident in at the moment mostly due to the fact it's completely reliant on Gamma's flip.
Like, yeah, I know I'm kinda posturing here, and I know Frog might end up talking some sense into me if he disagres, but like, I just hate this sudden SlySly push.
-Ali

Possible SQ is doing the "I'm defending, so same team accusation is dumb" or "I'm defending because I

know

they are town"
Call it unsubstantiated all you want, but that's just how I feel

[davesaz]

Thanks Nero.

Reading Tywin wasn't as hard as I thought it might be, so I knocked that out instead of going to bed. Lots of very firm positions there, but there is at least one read that moved scum->town and I think I saw one that moved toward scum as well. I'm not a big fan of so many assumptions on teams this early but it's something many people do. Overall it feels town but I don't think I've ever seen him in a game so I have no meta comparison to go by.

What Titus was crumbing makes sense for town. They're a little out on a limb already and I don't think it is in Town's best interest to dig any deeper. I've already posted the necessary caveats aimed at the people who need to know them. Nobody is going nuts with a CC so it's most likely genuine.

[Nero Cain]

This post in context made me feel like the defense was a reach or something I forgot atm.

Who was I defending?

[mhsmith0]

okay it wasn't entirely game flavour, but still calm down

Same tbh, but I wouldn't expect lowlife bounty hunters like you to get it.

I get more than you'd think!!

I don't really think this is all that likely, but if kid ever flips traitor, kill rb, and if rb flips groupscum, kill kid.

[Nero Cain]

What makes you think there is a traitor?

[mhsmith0]

What makes you think there is a traitor?

Last run of it had one. Fucking Panzer.

[SlySly]

I see some complaining about my post count. Just a little update about the life of Sly for the uninformed.

I'm a single dad.
I have 2 kids, 1 has autism.
I have a full time job.
I have a gf and we go do stuff.
This weekend, I had company. I have a date tomorrow and more company is coming Tuesday.

This game is a 32 player game that is expected to be a post explosion game, and it has been, but I've actually been in games that were moving faster than this one. I have read the entire game. I have not reviewed what I have read, nor have I iso'd anyone. When I'm reading, the things people I'm familiar with stand out to me more than those I'm not familiar with. Then there's hydra's with people I've played with, but I don't realize it's them until the game gets rolling. Then we have the incognito player(s), i.e. The Wall. And there's PerV. Has he even posted? He always seems to be invisible until around D4.

I haven't reviewed those jumping on to my wagon and why yet, but at the moment, these are the closest things I have to reads.

Obvtown: SQ
Probtown: Not Fury, Ram
Scum: Gamma, Tywin