Real Folk Blues Rematch [GAME OVER]

[davesaz]

okay it wasn't entirely game flavour, but still calm down

Same tbh, but I wouldn't expect lowlife bounty hunters like you to get it.

I get more than you'd think!!

I don't really think this is all that likely, but if kid ever flips traitor, kill rb, and if rb flips groupscum, kill kid.

Quoting this into my iso.

[Scott and Ramona]

Now that you mentioned Wall and Rach interactions it reminded me of Wall saying he would spoiler his posts for Rach. I didn't consider it much at the time but now when I think of Gork slipping that he is wall it made me think a thought.

????

He acknowledges he generally finds me scummy but doesn't use that as a reason to townread me.

Just so we're clear, I said that because I currently still think you are scummy.

I hate 1391 because it's really nonchalant. Also there are no scumreads outside of:

Smith: who has posted like maybe a max of 10 times
Slysly: who I think just about everyone has called a mixture of scummy and dodgy

I could be just flat out wrong here but TRing this many people is detrimental to the game state.

Ha nice try.
Slysly is obvTown. Saying everyone is a huge stretch.

This is a 32 player game. As much as I hate it a town block will happen.

--Math

How much experience do you have with Sly? I rarely found from the games I've played with him that he comes off as obvious town on Day 1. What are we missing?

- Scott

[Scott and Ramona]

Let Socrates catch up pls

Why Socrates specifically? Why not try to encourage everyone to allow every single low-content poster to catch-up?

3 people have requested replacements.
Theres 32 players in this game.

The majority of people who have replaced out reasons are "I can't keep up".
I don't know how I can stress this point enough without becoming annoying about it.

Game has had like 50 posts in last 24 hours.

In a 32 player game. Like the rate of posting isn't even 2 posts per player per day since your last mention - the fuck more do you want, lmao.

The problem here isn't overactivity if people STILL can't keep up.

personally i just stopped read most posts, just waiting end of day

problem is 60 pages, not 80 posts in last day, people don't want read all that spam

There has hardly been any spam and anyone who has complained to the mods about not being able to catch-up needs to speak up now or make their way to the exit. This honestly shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone.

- Scott

[Scott and Ramona]

RB

About Kid -- It isn't Kid's dislike of us that is the issue. Transcend dropped the whole "Math sucks" bit after RVS ended. The Doggo hydra is at least providing content and interacting with the thread. The problem with Kid is the majority of his ISO is filled with attacking me rather than anything substantive.

About Tywinn -- When Narna and I were catching up, he pointed out Tywinn's entrance was horrible as well as some of his vote interactions around Doggo. As for me, I was pinged by 870. He doesn't interact with anyone's concerns and just says "late game player". Eddie did the same thing in 1900 and was scum. Saying "late game player" makes me look at you closer and the slots you're mentioning. This made me look at A50 and Not Chara closer in depth. While I don't have a firm A50 read either way, Not Chara is likely scum. I don't like how he also says "Gamma is obviously scum" but at the same time says that scum can't be lynched. A lot of his posts rub me entirely the wrong way. Why do you townread Tywinn?

About SlySly --

Silence spell cast received

-- Why did you ask me for silence on the topic then make post 1498?

About Davesaz -- When Dave is town, he asks a lot of clarification questions. Take Elemental Trinity for example, he asked a lot of questions to try to understand reads. In Gistou, where I was scum with him on in a 42 player game, he stalled and asked questions that let other people talk. It looks more of the same thing here to me. I have a rule of thumb for Dave. If he asks Why you say something he's town. If he says Why is something AI/NAI or other questions about theory/getting you to talk more posts he's scum.

Vampire Master -- They're a nullread I could do if I had to. I much prefer Gamma or Tywinn though.

--Math

I don't understand the Sly bit. What's going on there? I kind of like your Dave meta read however. I'll do some quick digging later on to see if it's valid but it sounds believable and almost as accurate as tells for players like ThinkBig.

VOTE: SLYSLY

LETS GO GO GO

HE WAS OBVTOWN IN SURREPTITIOUS

HE IS NOT OBVTOWN NOW

IN FACT I KINDA FOS HIM

~T

Sly wasn't obvious town in Superstitious. You were also scum in that game

- Scott

[mhsmith0]

TRANSCEND'S OPINIONS (might throw what giga has to say in there too)

Cerebrus v666 - towny but am aware he has a bomb ass scum game
mhsmith0
Shiro - null
Carnelian - null, this is probably yume but you're not coasting the game on a miller claim zzz
DanelerH - scummy
Insomniacs (Narna+Mathblade) - town for now
Davesaz - me null slight town, giga town
Not Chara - town
Not Fury - really not sure anymore, we were both thinking town but ehhhh
Majiffy - null
Almost50 - town??
Master Vampire (Nosferatu+BTD6_Maker) - null
Tywin Lannister - town
ZZZX - prob town
Socrates - null
Tarkus - prob town
Kidamn - bouncing between town n scum
Gamma Emerald - probably town
Nero Cain - pretty sure town
Rb - town
RachMarie - probably town
PeregrineV - nullish town
Randomidget - slightly scummy
Titus - town
TheRealGin-N-Tonic - town from what i remember
Siblings Quarrel (Fro99er and Alisae) - scummy
Wall - town most likely
GinghamDog - replacement nai null
Scott and Ramona (Chickadee and LUV) - was thinking scummy but recent posting is good. not something scum!uzi isn't capable of faking.
Ramcious - scummy but could be lynchbait
SlySly - scummy like actually really scummy holy fuck

VOTE: SlySly

{Titus, Rb}

{Wall, Davesaz, Not Chara, Carnelian}

{RachMarie, Hiraki}

{mhsmith0, Tywin Lannister, Not Fury, Insomniacs}

{Everyone else, since these people have either not made an impression on me or give me some reason to waffle}

{KidAmn}

{Scott and Ramona}

{Ramcius, TRGNT}

{Siblings Quarrel}

in lieu of giving a catchup post i will just post this and hope someone asks me something but yeah my reads havent really changed too much

There's a weird amount of dissonance between these two posts (sly most notably, but differing opionions on yume, Gin, a few others). Was the second one just giga? If not I'd REALLY like to know what changed, but even if it was, it seems really weird for one head to be hardpushing a slot (sly) while the other literally has no impression on the slot. I guess I'd like to know what exactly was going on with that dissonance.

[Scott and Ramona]

QUESTION FOR ALL:

If you're not voting SlySly, why the fuck not?

You know, I'm not actually sure. I just think the guy is someone you approach with a wait and see mindset. I really don't think he'll give a fuck about being wagoned.

- Scott

[Scott and Ramona]

SQ is obvtown.

Are you caught up or even aware that you're being wagoned right now? This post feels really weird in context because SQ weren't even in the subject of conversation.

- Scott

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm going to do an exercise: 10 individual people can ask me a question about my thoughts on the game. I don't want anyone asking multiple questions. You ask multiple questions, I become Alex Trebek picking things off of the list of first commercial break notes: I will pick the one that I am most interested in.

[mhsmith0]

^actually the timestamps were a bit further apart than I'd remembered. For some reason i was thinking both came on friday

[Scott and Ramona]

SQ is obvtown.

Are you caught up or even aware that you're being wagoned right now? This post feels really weird in context because SQ weren't even the subject of conversation.

- Scott

EBWOP.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Scott: I agree with doggo that scum can read someone as genuinely obvtown, since I'VE DONE IT. Hogwarts Mafia, I felt Keyser Soze was obvtown. I was scum there.

[Insomniacs]

I'm going to do an exercise: 10 individual people can ask me a question about my thoughts on the game. I don't want anyone asking multiple questions. You ask multiple questions, I become Alex Trebek picking things off of the list of first commercial break notes: I will pick the one that I am most interested in.

Why are you doing this instead of sorting Sly now that he is here?

[Siblings Quarrel]

Sly, I am slightly wierded out by you calling us obvtown here. What gave you that impression?

Also Gamma, Keyser was the only person that was obvtown in that game (it's why he got shot) until MATHBLADE came along and RUINED EVERYTHING <3

But yeah, as scum, you can get away with reading obvtown as town if they're universally townread because you won't get pressed on that read
-Ali

[Insomniacs]

I also think it's pretty obvious why Sly would tr SQ here...

-Narna

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm going to do an exercise: 10 individual people can ask me a question about my thoughts on the game. I don't want anyone asking multiple questions. You ask multiple questions, I become Alex Trebek picking things off of the list of first commercial break notes: I will pick the one that I am most interested in.

Why are you doing this instead of sorting Sly now that he is here?

Because I had this idea and want to try it. I can also sort Sly while this goes on.

[mhsmith0]

Here is the game I mean Luv was town there. And I finally got to see Narna's scum game.

Elemental Trinity
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=70536

OK so do you think his performance this game has been particularly comparable to that one? Why or why not? I feel like if you're just off of a game with him you should have an opinion on his slot or be interested in sorting him. Like, I get that you can be hesitant to blow the read again, but I don't really see why sorting him would be an especially low priority for you here.

[Insomniacs]

gahh even SQ doesn't see it. I need smokes.

[mhsmith0]

I also think it's pretty obvious why Sly would tr SQ here...

-Narna

Because
1) SQ is obvtown?
2) Sly wants SQ to redrive the Gamma wagon?
3) Something else?

[Siblings Quarrel]

Narna, I see it.
I just think the timing is wierd.
That's all
-Ali

[Siblings Quarrel]

Like, I'm sorta hoping it's more then what I'm thinking it is if that makes sense.
-Ali

[Siblings Quarrel]

Because let's say Sly does flip scum.
Sly sorta saying "SQ is obvtown" right here makes me wierded out because it seems like I'm being setup to be turbolynched.
Sly can you address this for me?
-Ali

[Gamma Emerald]

I see some complaining about my post count. Just a little update about the life of Sly for the uninformed.

I'm a single dad.
I have 2 kids, 1 has autism.
I have a full time job.
I have a gf and we go do stuff.
This weekend, I had company. I have a date tomorrow and more company is coming Tuesday.

This game is a 32 player game that is expected to be a post explosion game, and it has been, but I've actually been in games that were moving faster than this one. I have read the entire game. I have not reviewed what I have read, nor have I iso'd anyone. When I'm reading, the things people I'm familiar with stand out to me more than those I'm not familiar with. Then there's hydra's with people I've played with, but I don't realize it's them until the game gets rolling. Then we have the incognito player(s), i.e. The Wall. And there's PerV. Has he even posted? He always seems to be invisible until around D4.

I haven't reviewed those jumping on to my wagon and why yet, but at the moment, these are the closest things I have to reads.

Obvtown: SQ
Probtown: Not Fury, Ram
Scum: Gamma, Tywin

I have a townread on SQ too, but what makes you call them obvtown?

[Insomniacs]

I also think it's pretty obvious why Sly would tr SQ here...

-Narna

Because
1) SQ is obvtown?
2) Sly wants SQ to redrive the Gamma wagon?
3) Something else?

Imma let Sly answer. I'm just wondering if people are paying attention. Especially people on the Sly wagon.

-Narna

[Chairman Doggo]

Holy fuck

[Chairman Doggo]

Alisae is obv scum as fuck