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[WhemeStar]

What is Loud modifer

[rb]

There's no reason to assume this mechanic is unlikely to be scum and to not sort Dave. The modifier is just wifom and in a game like this would be NAI

Loud modifier with non-killing ability is good for scum because they can show them visiting someone without a killing action. Dave if scum wouldn't have submitted kill

[rb]

So ftr I'm not saying Dave is scum with a public Loud killing ability

[Aristophanes]

Not to mention in a 32 player game it's even more likely that you'll run into stupid mechanics

I'll give you that it's possible with the size, but I've never encountered it before and I really don't see him doing the kill if he has this role. How do you rationalize that?

I've seen loud modifier on scum in multiple games

I ~think~ I may have seen a loud RB as scum once a couple years ago on a different forum, but that doesn't instill me with faith that I'd see it again.

I'll consider it a possibility though because you have site meta and because FB and FA are both likely to do crazy things, comparable to which this would be rather tame.

[Almost50]

Hows this for scum reads, Tywin: Almost's piggybacking of your SR on me felt hollow, just looking for a rhetorical foothold to get at me, and then he disappears once I indicate that I'm shark hunting. Ramicus's vote on me while calling the other flak on me 'posturing' raises an eyebrow and NC voting me on the back of a vague 'I don't like this' is disturbingly out of character for them.

Compare that to Cerberus, who gave me a hearty 'fuck you' but, when I pushed back, didn't twist it into a scumread on me despite having a perfect window to fan the flames on a fledgling wagon. Not shark.

@Ari: You and I both know what I'm seeing here. Uzi should see it too.

Ok I like where you're going with this, except you just now SR these players after they've already voted you. I understand they can be real reads and not just OMGUS, but it is also by definition, omgus when that's all the SRs you have. I don't really blame you, since I do it too, but it looks bad when you had no reads until voted, then suddenly SR only those on your wagon.

Let me ask you this: If you were on the outside looking in at your slot, what would be your read? TR or SR? Why?

Staaaahp. Just stop right there. How do you "understand they can be real reads" when you yourself had realized he had absolutely NO SCUM READS less than 24 hours ago?

[Aristophanes]

What is Loud modifer

WikiScum - Loud

Davesaz went to visit Siblings Quarrel last night.

[Not Fury]

I'll be posting at work but are scum dayvigs actually a thing?

yes and Gamma is a scum dayvig xd

[Aristophanes]

I'll be posting at work but are scum dayvigs actually a thing?

yes and Gamma is a scum dayvig xd

Also unlikely, but allowing the thought for the same reasons I'm not stepping on the Davesaz possibility.

Maybe I'm too closed minded...

[Gorkington]

focus on catchin' up and gettin' dem reads yo.

[Aristophanes]

focus on catchin' up and gettin' dem reads yo.

[Not Fury]

When considering if Gamma is scum, ignore all concepts of meta/what you've seen before.

Two kills is far too low for a multiball + neutral setup. Like honestly, this is silly. Two kills. Fuck other reasons for finding him scummy, why were there two kills?

2 kills = 2 factional kills. So we either have an arson or we have an SK who dayvig'd and can't night kill because of that. He also said he had unlimited shots. Dayvig with unlimited night shots? Yea bullshit. He's SK.

PV is also scum though, so it's like which is scummier at the moment.

If you don't leash gamma, he'll stabby stabby me tonight and say "he was gonna be a problem endgame hurrrrr." And the rest of you, being incompetent, will believe him.

[Gorkington]

we could leash gamma to shoot you?
(;

[Aristophanes]

I think Tywin,

Ramicus

, Gorkington, Ramona-Scott all town.

tell me about this one

We just finished Timeshift were he was scumread most of the game, but I found him town. His play feels similar here, enough so I don't want him (of the others on my list) lynched today.

Why do you think he is scum?

So, he looks town to you, thus the scumread?
Was he scum in Timeshift?

[Aristophanes]

So far I would vote: PV, Ramiscus, Vax in that order. Vax just because his early D2 catchup is bad. I'm hoping he gets better and obvtowns as I read further.

[Titus]

When considering if Gamma is scum, ignore all concepts of meta/what you've seen before.

Two kills is far too low for a multiball + neutral setup. Like honestly, this is silly. Two kills. Fuck other reasons for finding him scummy, why were there two kills?

2 kills = 2 factional kills. So we either have an arson or we have an SK who dayvig'd and can't night kill because of that. He also said he had unlimited shots. Dayvig with unlimited night shots? Yea bullshit. He's SK.

PV is also scum though, so it's like which is scummier at the moment.

If you don't leash gamma, he'll stabby stabby me tonight and say "he was gonna be a problem endgame hurrrrr." And the rest of you, being incompetent, will believe him.

We don't have to dictate who he does shoot to leash him.

If you're a claimed cop and actually give results, he'd be dumb to shoot you, as you'd box yourself in. Have a little more faith in people.

(I'm presuming the day cop was real here, although I probably shouldn't.)

[Titus]

Not to mention in a 32 player game it's even more likely that you'll run into stupid mechanics

I'll give you that it's possible with the size, but I've never encountered it before and I really don't see him doing the kill if he has this role. How do you rationalize that?

I've seen loud modifier on scum in multiple games

I ~think~ I may have seen a loud RB as scum once a couple years ago on a different forum, but that doesn't instill me with faith that I'd see it again.

I'll consider it a possibility though because you have site meta and because FB and FA are both likely to do crazy things, comparable to which this would be rather tame.

I just finished as a loud doctor, as scum. Coasted when there was no NK n1.

[Not Fury]

we could leash gamma to shoot you?
(;

If I'm scum read for my play thus far, then sure why not. But just say it explicitly that you SR me so I can lul postgame.

[WhemeStar]

So far I would vote: PV, Ramiscus, Vax in that order. Vax just because his early D2 catchup is bad. I'm hoping he gets better and obvtowns as I read further.

Ok but my catch-up was worse

[Aristophanes]

Not to mention in a 32 player game it's even more likely that you'll run into stupid mechanics

I'll give you that it's possible with the size, but I've never encountered it before and I really don't see him doing the kill if he has this role. How do you rationalize that?

I've seen loud modifier on scum in multiple games

I ~think~ I may have seen a loud RB as scum once a couple years ago on a different forum, but that doesn't instill me with faith that I'd see it again.

I'll consider it a possibility though because you have site meta and because FB and FA are both likely to do crazy things, comparable to which this would be rather tame.

I just finished as a loud doctor, as scum. Coasted when there was no NK n1.

Yeah, I just read that here. Gay Mafia, right?
That's pretty smart actually!

You obviously didn't make the kill though, because that would destroy your whole claim. That's my problem with a scumread on Davesaz atm.
Unless he's from the team that didn't make the kill, I just don't see why he would target the scum kill.

[Aristophanes]

So far I would vote: PV, Ramiscus, Vax in that order. Vax just because his early D2 catchup is bad. I'm hoping he gets better and obvtowns as I read further.

Ok but my catch-up was worse

And I've got, like, 800 posts before I get to your replace in, so...I can't speak to that really yet.

[Titus]

Not to mention in a 32 player game it's even more likely that you'll run into stupid mechanics

I'll give you that it's possible with the size, but I've never encountered it before and I really don't see him doing the kill if he has this role. How do you rationalize that?

I've seen loud modifier on scum in multiple games

I ~think~ I may have seen a loud RB as scum once a couple years ago on a different forum, but that doesn't instill me with faith that I'd see it again.

I'll consider it a possibility though because you have site meta and because FB and FA are both likely to do crazy things, comparable to which this would be rather tame.

I just finished as a loud doctor, as scum. Coasted when there was no NK n1.

Yeah, I just read that here. Gay Mafia, right?
That's pretty smart actually!

You obviously didn't make the kill though, because that would destroy your whole claim. That's my problem with a scumread on Davesaz atm.
Unless he's from the team that didn't make the kill, I just don't see why he would target the scum kill.

Possible but why doesn't make sense until the information is in. That's why Dave should have claimed. Otherwise, it's wifom.

[Aristophanes]

Possible but why doesn't make sense until the information is in. That's why Dave should have claimed. Otherwise, it's wifom.

He still hasn't?

I mean, there were too many claims off the bat, but I don't see why he wouldn't at this point...

[mhsmith0]

There is no particular reason for him to claim at this point, given that loud __ is (I think we all agree?) LIKELIER to be coming from town than scum. Unless you think he's actively scummy, in which case he should be a wagon and forced to claim that way. But "he did something last night, that almost certainly failed (due to ascetic), better get a claim" strikes me as counter-productive; if his ability is useful, better to see what happens with it night 2, and if it's not useful, better for scum to be incentivized to shoot a PR slot.

[Titus]

There is no particular reason for him to claim at this point, given that loud __ is (I think we all agree?) LIKELIER to be coming from town than scum. Unless you think he's actively scummy, in which case he should be a wagon and forced to claim that way. But "he did something last night, that almost certainly failed (due to ascetic), better get a claim" strikes me as counter-productive; if his ability is useful, better to see what happens with it night 2, and if it's not useful, better for scum to be incentivized to shoot a PR slot.

I think that Davesaz should claim regardless of his alignment. I'm big on accountability. I'd wagon there in a heartbeat, but he's not claiming precisely because the posts like you and Ari.

[WhemeStar]

There is no particular reason for him to claim at this point, given that loud __ is (I think we all agree?) LIKELIER to be coming from town than scum. Unless you think he's actively scummy, in which case he should be a wagon and forced to claim that way. But "he did something last night, that almost certainly failed (due to ascetic), better get a claim" strikes me as counter-productive; if his ability is useful, better to see what happens with it night 2, and if it's not useful, better for scum to be incentivized to shoot a PR slot.

I don't agree