Real Folk Blues Rematch [GAME OVER]

[ZZZX]

Can we lynch ZZZX already?

You guys go back and forth on players like PV, Ramcius, or NF, but ignore lurkers like ZZZX without even allowing discussion to foster. You just make excuses for him. Why?

PV probably is scum for so many to ignore him without cause. Same for people like randommidget, Socrates, etc. That being said, ZZZX getting a golden ticket by every player in this game practically assures it imo.

The worst ive seen anyone outside of gamma/a50 say about ZZZX is some coaching on how he should play as a responsible townie. Nothing said about him probably being scum. He's anti town on his best day, but why do people TR the guy? If nobody can agree on a lynch, why is he a bad one? Cerb says this is how ZZZX plays in every game, but someone explain to me why thats acceptable and what is the point of him playing Mafia then? I honestly can't wrap my head around it. What's the point? It helps him as scum, but it's only because people let this shit happen. He could write a single game related thought at any time, but he hasn't. Ever.

Call it what it is: SCUMMY

I mean, I have a shitty early game. And at least 5-10 people have the same situation as me. I am going out of my fucking way to make sure that I write SOMETHING so I can be read or something. While people who are really lurking and posting only when they are about to get prodded and WORST OF ALL "pretend" that they are doing anything.

When I do something I do it. If I don't do something I do not pretend to be doing it.

I didn't read most of the game. And I am not pretending that I did.

I ISO'd Doggo. That I did.

And now I am trying to interact with ya'll which I am doing. But calling ME bad because I can't read 10 pages a fucking day is just fucking annoying as fuck. And no its not every large game that goes like this. This is double or even triple the speed of your usual large.

[ZZZX]

Eh, I just got out of a game where I, as scum, leaned on ZZZX as an easy mislynch. I want more from him before I draw conclusion. Pressure is totally warranted, but I'm ready to jump down his throat.

I like this post

and its not exactly the same as there the limitations of posts were a super interesting mechanism that changes many things imo.

[ZZZX]

Tell you what Sorcrates is my first solid town read

[ZZZX]

The post I quoted might not seem like much but I don't see why he would mention that usually and not push me again since if he lynched me and I flipped whatever none can really blame him.

[ZZZX]

I agree that justifying an insult is the wrong approach. I hope you'd be able to look past it and instead want to policy lynch Titus. But if that's not the case, then I understand.

this is also not the solution. policy lynching isn't for getting rid of players one doesn't want to play with for out of game reasons.

Tywin said something he shouldn't have, and apologized for it after being called out. that's all that should happen. no playing devil's advocate because someone 'overreacted'.

also:
VOTE: Socrates
i don't like that last interaction.

Was I the only one who liked Sorcrates like few posts? Lol.

[ZZZX]

Other than that, Socrates needs to give some SRs if he thinks ZZZX is lynchbait. He said a lot of people are town, but take them off the table, and someone in the remaining pool has to be a SR, right? Not mentioning then at all feels like what scum do to avoid gaining votes. They wait for a wagon to get big enough before pretending to SR someone. Socrates is waiting for that wagon imo.

Having a scum-read doesn't mean you have to automatically vote it. Sometimes you might have one reason or another for not doing so I guess?

[ZZZX]

Not chara, doggo, gamma are Tr

Doggo is dead

RIP Doggo I spent 4 days reading you. :/

[ZZZX]

Yes I barely read 3-4 pages but yes I am done. Too tired.

[Not Fury]

@ZZZX, Misplaced effort is not effort at all. Do not say you spent 4 days reading him, since you have read nothing if you cannot even postulate as to why he died.

[Ramcius]

@Ari: NF I cant tell if they're a troll or what. They haven't done anything to be called town, but I don't see why they've claimed cop 100x if it isn't true. That's like asking for a PL.

Dave has a loud modifier that let everyone know he visited SQ the night they got NK'd. He never explained what he was doing there as far as I know, never gave any sort of info on it? The real question to ask is why would scum have a loud modifier, and even if they did, why would they send Dave for the NK if so? Makes no sense, so prob town.

why you dismiss possibility Dave being simply loud visiting scum PR?

If he's flip scum, you'll get rope

Cuz I have common sense? Idk how to help you with that. Seems to be something you just have or dont have. Not really a learnable trait.

i could argue your common sense, scum having something like loud fruit vendor is possible, and i believe it more than town having loud modifier and not claiming - i wouldn't be surprised, if he's not survive till tomorrow

[Ramcius]

I think Tywin,

Ramicus

, Gorkington, Ramona-Scott all town.

tell me about this one

We just finished Timeshift were he was scumread most of the game, but I found him town. His play feels similar here, enough so I don't want him (of the others on my list) lynched today.

Why do you think he is scum?

So, he looks town to you, thus the scumread?
Was he scum in Timeshift?

i was JK in timeshifted

[Ramcius]

He is a scumread.

@mhsmith, Vote Ram?

Can you bottom line the case on him? Don't need a wall, but a link to where it was spelled out or a couple sentences would help.

He hasn't scumhunted at all, or if you're feeling charitable, hasn't scumhunted since pressuring me about my masonizer claim, but has a beetlejuice syndrome.

cute, my push on Tywin was much more serious than that reaction test on you, so either you didn't read my ISO, you are selfcentric or scum, either way, keep it coming, i will have good laugh in dead thread, either from you ML me, or from town following scum

[Aristophanes]

I think Tywin,

Ramicus

, Gorkington, Ramona-Scott all town.

tell me about this one

We just finished Timeshift were he was scumread most of the game, but I found him town. His play feels similar here, enough so I don't want him (of the others on my list) lynched today.

Why do you think he is scum?

So, he looks town to you, thus the scumread?
Was he scum in Timeshift?

i was JK in timeshifted

I was more looking for alignment...
Did my own check and see town JK.
Also reread PV's post and it makes some sense actually.

[rb]

There is no particular reason for him to claim at this point, given that loud __ is (I think we all agree?) LIKELIER to be coming from town than scum. Unless you think he's actively scummy, in which case he should be a wagon and forced to claim that way. But "he did something last night, that almost certainly failed (due to ascetic), better get a claim" strikes me as counter-productive; if his ability is useful, better to see what happens with it night 2, and if it's not useful, better for scum to be incentivized to shoot a PR slot.

I don't agree

it's not likelier to be town

[rb]

There is no particular reason for him to claim at this point, given that loud __ is (I think we all agree?) LIKELIER to be coming from town than scum. Unless you think he's actively scummy, in which case he should be a wagon and forced to claim that way. But "he did something last night, that almost certainly failed (due to ascetic), better get a claim" strikes me as counter-productive; if his ability is useful, better to see what happens with it night 2, and if it's not useful, better for scum to be incentivized to shoot a PR slot.

I think that Davesaz should claim regardless of his alignment. I'm big on accountability. I'd wagon there in a heartbeat, but he's not claiming precisely because the posts like you and Ari.

[rb]

anyone who isn't explicitly townreading someone for a good reason needs to not get in the way of other people pressuring slots

i'm just going to scumread anyone who does this because you're not making this massive game more winnable by town, you're making it harder

[Firebringer]

Vote Count 2.08

Titus (L-14): PeregrineV
PeregrineV (L-12): TheRealGin-N-Tonics, Not Fury, Insomniacs
mhsmith0 (L-14): Rb
Almost50 (L-14): Socrates
Randomidget (L-14): Hiraki
Tywin Lannister (L-14): Randomidget
ZZZX (L-13): Tywin Lannister, Almost50
Not Fury (L-14): MariaR
Socrates (L-13): Ramcius, Not Chara
Ramcius (L-13): Mhsmith0, Titus

Not Voting (13): Shiro, Drixx, ZZZX, Aristophanes, WhemeStar, RachMarie, Cerberus v666, Davesaz, Gamma Emerald, Vaxkiller, Gorkington, Scott and Ramona, Master Vampire

With 28 players alive it takes 15 votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2017-05-30 06:10:00)

Note: V/LA are: Shiro, Gamma Emerald, RachMarie, Aristophanes, Insomniacs
Hiraki has requested replacement

[Almost50]

*remember this post?

One minor phenommina that I did see in multi ball was the designated mislynch getting double teamed by both scum teams. Both sides dogpile, then see the others players (of another alignment) dog piling on as well and it seems like this weird consensus forming out of the blue, but it's really something much sillier. Have we had a number of wagons like that in this game?

VOTE: Almost

Then maybe you can explain why there are only 2 votes on you thus far (mine should the 3rd in spirit, but doesn't count yet)?? I see no dogpiling what-so-ever, and it feels like your team doesn't want to bus you and the other team is not willing to expose themselves to your team.

That said, I'll bite (y'know.. me being a poodle and all)

VOTE: Socrates

[Almost50]

Btw, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Ramcius.

My gift to you will be not sheeping Titus on you for today (that's May 23rd, not the whole gameday)

[Almost50]

80 posts is easily do-able in an hour. but need to be on PC

But calling ME bad because I can't read 10 pages a fucking day is just fucking annoying as fuck.

*grabs a calculator.. divides 80 by 60 then multiplies by 10 .. gets 13.333 .. realizes this is the number of pages ZZZX can read "easily" in 10 minutes, so redoes the math properly and gets 7.5 minutes for 10 pages*

*Shuts himself up*

[Ramcius]

Btw, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Ramcius.

My gift to you will be not sheeping Titus on you for today (that's May 23rd, not the whole gameday)

thanks

you can sheep, i don't mind

[Almost50]

Not chara, doggo, gamma are Tr

Doggo is dead

RIP Doggo I spent 4 days reading you. :/

Which is the silliest thing ever considering their flip is on page 1 post #0

Like, when I want to ISO someone I check the flips of all dead players to be able to draw associatives, but that's just me.

[Almost50]

80 posts is easily do-able in an hour. but need to be on PC

But calling ME bad because I can't read 10 pages a fucking day is just fucking annoying as fuck.

*grabs a calculator.. divides 80 by 60 then multiplies by 10 .. gets 13.333 .. realizes this is the number of pages ZZZX can read "easily" in 10 minutes, so redoes the math properly and gets 7.5 minutes for 10 pages*

*Shuts himself up*

Ahem.. silly me. Can't tell posts from pages.

*Shamefully crawls back under the couch with tail tightly hid between legs*

[rb]

r u ok

[Randomnamechange]

if ou think this is scummy from ram read day one of Surreptitious. His play here is extremely similar (including the beetlejuicing which is the main reason he should be scumread here IMO)
@smith im in the middle of exams. I have a break coming up and will be more active then.