Open 690: Kill All Townies - Game Over

[Balki B]

Also consider this... if I were scum, why would Ali CC? The other scum team would have to SHOOT me with no CC's.

So there's no benefit for town!Ali to CC me as they just get themselves killed in a crossfire.

Just saying.

Ali CCed you because you were trying a last-ditch effort to wriggle out of a correct lynch.

[GameNBurger]

Also consider this... if I were scum, why would Ali CC? The other scum team would have to SHOOT me with no CC's.

So there's no benefit for town!Ali to CC me as they just get themselves killed in a crossfire.

Just saying.

The win condition is playing to the town ya know, i know its hard to remember it when you're scum

And alright man keep flailing

[Almost50]

Too bad its stupid since mafia have doctors

Le3t me know when you do install a brain!!

Cop = Can only detect Mafia. That means Werewolves do not care the least about him. So, the MAFIA will shoot one of the two claimed Cops. If they flip Cop, the other gets lynched. If they shoot the wrong one (on the off chance a VT is gambitting) then the real Cop will give us a result (whether it's a guilty or an inno).

FWIW, If I was a WW Dpctor I would protect whom I believed to be the Cop of the two. For real. It would be good for my faction to keep the Cop alive to catch Mafia, while we shot down Townies. But that's just me (and I often play weird as ANY alignment).

[CommKnight]

Plus you're now outed to the OTHER scum faction, so they'll likely pick you off as well.

You are so scum. You did not think through this one before you posted it.

(I'm joking, no personal attacks, I know you're scum too).

[Balki B]

Because if I'm dying. I'm calling a spade a fucking spade. Yet we have people still blindly following her *Cough* Balki *Cough*

I'm not blind. I explained why you're scum too. My explanation has even been called "beautiful."

#towntreasure

[CommKnight]

FWIW, If I was a WW Dpctor I would protect whom I believed to be the Cop of the two. For real. It would be good for my faction to keep the Cop alive to catch Mafia, while we shot down Townies. But that's just me (and I often play weird as ANY alignment).

This is what I'd do as well and what I'm relying on to save me into D2.

Also WW would not CC a cop... so that means Ali is more than likely Mafia of the two factions.

[Balki B]

Too bad its stupid since mafia have doctors

Le3t me know when you do install a brain!!

Cop = Can only detect Mafia. That means Werewolves do not care the least about him. So, the MAFIA will shoot one of the two claimed Cops. If they flip Cop, the other gets lynched. If they shoot the wrong one (on the off chance a VT is gambitting) then the real Cop will give us a result (whether it's a guilty or an inno).

FWIW, If I was a WW Dpctor I would protect whom I believed to be the Cop of the two. For real. It would be good for my faction to keep the Cop alive to catch Mafia, while we shot down Townies. But that's just me (and I often play weird as ANY alignment).

Staring-contest emu coming in low and fast with a flyby of knowledge. Good stuff.

[GameNBurger]

Too bad its stupid since mafia have doctors

Le3t me know when you do install a brain!!

Cop = Can only detect Mafia. That means Werewolves do not care the least about him. So, the MAFIA will shoot one of the two claimed Cops. If they flip Cop, the other gets lynched. If they shoot the wrong one (on the off chance a VT is gambitting) then the real Cop will give us a result (whether it's a guilty or an inno).

FWIW, If I was a WW Dpctor I would protect whom I believed to be the Cop of the two. For real. It would be good for my faction to keep the Cop alive to catch Mafia, while we shot down Townies. But that's just me (and I often play weird as ANY alignment).

Okay that is my bad, that does sound like an interesting proposition

And hopefully if the wolves didnt think about this move theyre thinking about it now

So we lynch Comm since I dont see a gambit that wouldnt be such a terrrible tradeoff for Doggo? Or can you convice me otherwise?

[Balki B]

FWIW, If I was a WW Dpctor I would protect whom I believed to be the Cop of the two. For real. It would be good for my faction to keep the Cop alive to catch Mafia, while we shot down Townies. But that's just me (and I often play weird as ANY alignment).

This is what I'd do as well and what I'm relying on to save me into D2.

Also WW would not CC a cop... so that means Ali is more than likely Mafia of the two factions.

Okay, friend, we'll lynch Siblings if you flip Cop. Happy? Now step up their on those gallows with cheer and gusto!

[CommKnight]

Scum is so painfully obvious right now.

VOTE: Game Let's lynch one and then Balki and WWs will probably off Ali for us.

[Almost50]

Guys. Chill. We won't be lynching EITHER of Siblings/Comm today. NEITHER.

Why? Because we want the Mafia to GUESS which one is the Cop. If they already know, that's fine.. we will lynch the other tomorrow anyway, but if we lynch one today whether or not they flip Cop we are doing Mafia a favour.

[Almost50]

I kind of agree..

VOTE: Game

[CommKnight]

@A50, Game & Balki are definitely scum man. Town can't be this dense.

[Almost50]

I mean, maybe he's just a noob and still doesn't fully comprehend the situation, but even so this should serve as a friendly nudge in the ***** to actually read the setup and digest the roles and mechanics.

[GameNBurger]

Okay so while i'm waiting i'm gonna revise the situation possibilities

Comm is mob Doggo is Cop

Comm tries to take the cop down with him since its a decent tradeoff for his faction, but if he fails wolves protect cop

Comm is Wolf Doggo is Cop

Comm tries to expose cop so his faction knows who to protect for the rest of the game, making a gambit with a fair bit of reward

Comm is Cop Doggo is Mob

Comm claims, Doggo risks it all to take out the cop so only the wolves can be Id'd. Not a surefire gambit like scenario 2 but I'd be lying if i didnt say it could work. You're down a cop if you vote comm, but voting doggo saves him indefinitely in theory

Comm is Cop Doggo is Wolf (AWOOO)

Comm claims, Doggo risks it all even though they want this guys alive? This possibility is idiotic.

Situation 4 is stupid. So thats not it.

Let me get this posted and think on it. 4 is out but something doesnt sit well in situation 1. So i'm not sure.

[Almost50]

Calm down. Look at their join dates. They're both new, and this is probably their first game outside the Newbie section

[GameNBurger]

I mean, maybe he's just a noob and still doesn't fully comprehend the situation, but even so this should serve as a friendly nudge in the ***** to actually read the setup and digest the roles and mechanics.

1. You know I asked for your help, maybe things would go smoothly if you werent so excited to serve as righteous judge to teach someone a lesson

2. I cant wait for you to claim ignorance if comm flips scum

[Alisae]

Almost, Balki isn't a newb. He's a rising star.
His join date looks new, but his scumgame is amazing.
-Ali

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

Almost, Balki isn't a newb. He's a rising star.
His join date looks new, but his scumgame is amazing.
-Ali

fuck my life.

[Balki B]

Okay, okay, okay. I got excited. No rush. I'll consider setup more and various possibilities.

UNVOTE: Comm

[Almost50]

Okay so while i'm waiting i'm gonna revise the situation possibilities

Comm is mob Doggo is Cop

Comm tries to take the cop down with him since its a decent tradeoff for his faction, but if he fails wolves protect cop

Comm is Wolf Doggo is Cop

Comm tries to expose cop so his faction knows who to protect for the rest of the game, making a gambit with a fair bit of reward

Comm is Cop Doggo is Mob

Comm claims, Doggo risks it all to take out the cop so only the wolves can be Id'd. Not a surefire gambit like scenario 2 but I'd be lying if i didnt say it could work. You're down a cop if you vote comm, but voting doggo saves him indefinitely in theory

Comm is Cop Doggo is Wolf (AWOOO)

Comm claims, Doggo risks it all even though they want this guys alive? This possibility is idiotic.

Situation 4 is stupid. So thats not it.

Let me get this posted and think on it. 4 is out but something doesnt sit well in situation 1. So i'm not sure.

You missed other possibilities, like:

Comm is a Cop and Doggo's CC was a joke!

OR

Comm was JOKING (who claims @ L-3 anyway? Let alone in a spoiler.) and Doggo took him for reals and outed himself.

OR

I'm the real Cop and

I know neither of them fakes Cop as Scum

, so I'm trying to calm them both down w.o. actually outing myself.

[CommKnight]

Calm down. Look at their join dates. They're both new, and this is probably their first game outside the Newbie section

Honestly this makes sense. I mean I just assume people played forum mafia elsewhere and have developed good strategies by now. But I forget there's people that this might be their 5th game (or less) and really haven't had much experience scum hunting yet.

But to continue pushing their shit after you outed your suggestion is what is pinging me hard (along with the fact they were on the wagon to begin with).

[Almost50]

Almost, Balki isn't a newb. He's a rising star.
His join date looks new, but his scumgame is amazing.
-Ali

fuck my life.

Ok. Noted. But I still don't think two MAFIA would be pushing that blatantly if they thought that was a genuine Cop claim. I would say only one at most is Mafia.

[CommKnight]

If it was one or the other, I'd say it's Game that is scum and Balki that has some learning to do.

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

Almost, Mafia have a reason to claim Cop if they're getting wagoned.
It's so that they can find the real cop and kill them.
-Ali