Newbie 1806 - The Ffery Garden: GAME OVER!

[Fykus]

and a / in front of the second spoiler

[PersephoneSidekick]

and a / in front of the second spoiler

Spoiler: Got it, thanks!

yeah you could spoiler tag it. im not sure how to embed the code but its like [ spoiler= ] quote here [ spoiler ] without the spaces

[Fykus]

woohoo

[WhyMafia]

@whale
I would say I null town you. However, my read on you is way to early to be concrete, and this is on first impressions. I read through your wall, and surface level read it. And regarding the scummy tone, nobody here has played a complete game with me, but of you quickly skim through my other games, you can see for yourself.
Please answer peri's questions on Fykus btw, same general concerns I had.
Regarding my theory discussion with Fykus, I scum read him for his tone and his answers. While it is "theory", I'm not using it to deny anything. I scum read him, plain and simple. What did you like about his reaction to L-1?

[WhyMafia]

Oh for the next 3 weeks, my activity will drastically be reduced sorry :/
I'll definitely post everyday, but I'm st a sleep away camp :/

[Fykus]

have fun at camp <3

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1.7

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King Cankles

(4): Ciara24, RadiantCowbells, Fykus, WhaleBarnicle

Fykus

(2): PersephoneSidekick, King Cankles

Not Voting

(3): mhsmith0, WhyMafia, PestoSwami

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: July 6, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2017-07-05 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[WhyMafia]

have fun at camp <3

Thanks

[Ciara24]

Hello, prod dodge, I've quick read through the newer posts. Welcome WhaleBarnicle! I'll answer your questions this evening when I get back home from work - I had very little access to the internet yesterday, hence my lack of posts.

Enjoy camp WhyMafia!!

[mhsmith0]

Cankles, you're now at L-1, and despite the fact that you very clearly don't want to produce content on day one, you now have to do so if you want to not get lynched. People have been doing stuff, tell us what you think of what people have been doing. This is a newbie game, and I feel a bit bad that (regardless of your alignment) you're getting wagoned for basically not doing anything (it's kind of a shitty experience to have that happen), but if you're not going to play the game, then you're going to be forced to claim which is bad regardless of your alignment. If you're town, this is especially unfair to your teammates, who are forced to try and figure out your alignment despite you giving them absolutely no tools through which to do so.

[fferyllt]

A massive prod will go out in about 6 hours.

(I give a little leeway for prods on weekends)

[RadiantCowbells]

I am back!

[PersephoneSidekick]

Cankles, you're now at L-1, and despite the fact that you very clearly don't want to produce content on day one, you now have to do so if you want to not get lynched. People have been doing stuff, tell us what you think of what people have been doing. This is a newbie game, and I feel a bit bad that (regardless of your alignment) you're getting wagoned for basically not doing anything (it's kind of a shitty experience to have that happen), but if you're not going to play the game, then you're going to be forced to claim which is bad regardless of your alignment. If you're town, this is especially unfair to your teammates, who are forced to try and figure out your alignment despite you giving them absolutely no tools through which to do so.

Was your warning a prediction or a threat? That is, are you in favor of lynching Cankles if he continues to be recalcitrant and if so then after how long a wait? Can you give me your thoughts on policy lynching in general and lurker lynching in specific?

[PersephoneSidekick]

Also, have fun at camp, WhyMafia!

[mhsmith0]

Was your warning a prediction or a threat? That is, are you in favor of lynching Cankles if he continues to be recalcitrant and if so then after how long a wait? Can you give me your thoughts on policy lynching in general and lurker lynching in specific?

As a general rule, I dislike policy/lurker lynching. Lurker lynching can be acceptable when:

1) You have solid town reads on most of the board and you're basically POE'ing someone as lurkerscum (as an example, in newbie 1779, the last game RC and I were together, this was a good chunk of how I arrived at lemon being scum [which was correct btw] )

2) The game is SO slow and unproductive (or, alternatively, so spammy and/or toxic) that policy lynching is the only thing that seems like it could save the gamestate.

As far as it applying to cankles, I'd absolutely hammer there before end of day phase if I don't get anything useful from him or find any better ideas. But, especially in a newbie game, I'd hope that he chooses to provide actual content in lieu of claiming or getting hammered, because if he's town, a day 1 where we just lynch a town member who isn't doing anything is a pretty unproductive day overall, and very lean in terms of developing meaningful interactions (obv if he's scum, then it's much less of an issue).

[PersephoneSidekick]

Was your warning a prediction or a threat? That is, are you in favor of lynching Cankles if he continues to be recalcitrant and if so then after how long a wait? Can you give me your thoughts on policy lynching in general and lurker lynching in specific?

As a general rule, I dislike policy/lurker lynching. Lurker lynching can be acceptable when:

1) You have solid town reads on most of the board and you're basically POE'ing someone as lurkerscum (as an example, in newbie 1779, the last game RC and I were together, this was a good chunk of how I arrived at lemon being scum [which was correct btw] )

2) The game is SO slow and unproductive (or, alternatively, so spammy and/or toxic) that policy lynching is the only thing that seems like it could save the gamestate.

As far as it applying to cankles, I'd absolutely hammer there before end of day phase if I don't get anything useful from him or find any better ideas. But, especially in a newbie game, I'd hope that he chooses to provide actual content in lieu of claiming or getting hammered, because if he's town, a day 1 where we just lynch a town member who isn't doing anything is a pretty unproductive day overall, and very lean in terms of developing meaningful interactions (obv if he's scum, then it's much less of an issue).

Okay yeah I'd probably hammer too if we were running out of time without much else. Probably even ask for a claim when there were still a few days left so we would have time to respond if he did claim. I'm glad we're on the same page here.

[fferyllt]

King Cankles and PestoSwami have been prodded.

[RadiantCowbells]

This game is rather slow. I'll try to lead some activity soon.

[King Cankles]

I'm just trying to learn the game lol I feel like everything I say is turning against me. But hey, trial and error! I figured I was gonna be lynched so I kinda gave up.

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay, let's UNVOTE: King Cankles for now.

[WhyMafia]

I'm just trying to learn the game lol I feel like everything I say is turning against me. But hey, trial and error! I figured I was gonna be lynched so I kinda gave up.

Never give up

[RadiantCowbells]

Of course I voted for the biggest wagon. I'm about to get lynched. I'm not sure how that makes me scum? A lynch has to happen in order for us to gain some sort of info. Go ahead and lynch me if you want, but you'll be losing a townie.

This post makes me think he's town actually.

[RadiantCowbells]

Alright so I'm okay with a Fykus lynch.

Fykus, anything you want to say to prevent me from lynching you?

[Ciara24]

I'm just trying to learn the game lol I feel like everything I say is turning against me. But hey, trial and error! I figured I was gonna be lynched so I kinda gave up.

Newbie games are all about the learning curve. Never give up on trying to learn how it works! Everyone has bad games where things turn against them

[Ciara24]

Can someone give me a quick run down of the 'Fykus is scum' train of thought? All I'm seeing I the slightly weird RVS interaction between himself and WhyMafia. Is that the main reasoning behind the votes?