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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:21 pm

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VC 1.7



Io (L-2) - Lil Uzi Vert, QuantumRadius, Dongempire, Kop, Chickadee
QuantumRadius (L-6) - MarioManiac4
Lil Uzi Vert (L-6) - Sesq

Spawn Campers (5) - Flairs, ex-Assemblerotws, BTD6_maker, Kawso, Io, ex-taiho

Assemblerotws is due to be kicked for being AFK for too long (boo).

taiho has left the game

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:47 am

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yeah i dont like this wagon that much anymore
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:00 am

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In post 351, Sesq wrote:yeah i dont like this wagon that much anymore
Why?
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:28 am

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feels too forced and its basis is shaky (as in, based on a reaction test which arent particularly relibale)
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:23 am

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It's not really based on a reaction test.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:33 am

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In post 348, Io wrote:
Also me voting someone with a valid reason is not hypocritical as I said I wan't going to lynch someone or let them get lynched in RVS. And voting someone with a valid reason is the exact opposite of RVS.
But if you yourself had a valid reason to vote why were you so scared of a lolhammer?

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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:34 am

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holy shit that's hammer
wtf
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:35 am

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No it's not.

Sesq is voting me.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:40 am

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In post 356, QuantumRadius wrote:holy shit that's hammer
wtf
It's not, but why are you sounding shocked if you were so confident I'm scum?
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:30 am

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In post 318, MarioManiac4 wrote:The Io wagon is bad.
Whats bad about it?
In post 331, MarioManiac4 wrote:Wait LUV so you're telling me that unless I have a history of playing with Io I cannot look at her ISO and make a reasonable judgement of whether she is cold or calculating or not? Where does meta come into this?
BTD and Flairs are too inactive to push, and Chickadee isn't low-hanging fruit. Also, there is no possible momentum on any of those, whereas Io was generally suspected.
I take issue with Kop, QD, Chickadee and Sesq.
Your looking at her ISO within this game, and making a judgement from this game. Meta comes in to possibly show if they have a history of playing this way. Your saying with such confidence you know how she plays, when overall, her game play could be mirroring a game style that she could have used as scum in previous games in this game. I'm not for one here saying that she is, but before you can say with such confidence what she is playing, a quick background check could or should be used before saying things with such confidence.

A lot of people can meta me and see what my scum game and town game are like, and you can pretty much come to a conclusion to what I possibly could be because I have different styles when playing either alignment.
In post 341, MarioManiac4 wrote:Like what does metaing even change? It's not something alignment would change, so what is the point?
It doesn't change alignment but it is a helpful tool to get a stronger read on someone.

I don't tend to use meta as a tool, because it really doesn't work for me, and I'd rather play with the information that's within the game I'm playing, than the other games they've played. It works for some, it just doesn't work for me.
In post 344, Sesq wrote:Wait.

Wait.

VOTE: LUV

lets go here
We're pretty much out of RVS, at least give us some reasons behind this vote. I'm not going to go blindly voting for someone because you've told me so.
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Expect the unexpected in mafia. I've seen far worse than that.
In post 356, QuantumRadius wrote:holy shit that's hammer
wtf
UNVOTE: Io

That reaction to the hammer has made me feel uneasy about this wagon now.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:34 am

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In post 358, Io wrote:
In post 356, QuantumRadius wrote:holy shit that's hammer
wtf
It's not, but why are you sounding shocked if you were so confident I'm scum?
i mean the hammer wouldn't have been a bad thing, I'm still scumreading you
but where I come from, hammering early like that would be a scumtell, there was no consensus that town was ready for eod
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:38 am

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I get that, but there is no day timer, so day just ends when we feel it ready.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:40 am

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In post 361, Io wrote:I get that, but there is no day timer, so day just ends when we feel it ready.
and we were nowhere near ready.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:42 am

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You weren't. I was.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:33 am

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For fucks sake.

I feel like i have to answer io now, but theres stuff i havent thought much about, and then electricity cuts off for 4 hours.

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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:57 am

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Sesq, shut up for a second if you're not going to help. And no, lynch and running LUV doesnt help. Or wait wait wait, dont shut up, you still need to help the town or you're the next in the chopping block.

Now that i got that out of the way, i want to answer IO's post pretty quickly. ('Cause i cant answer it in depth now that electricity cut removed the post i was making. Fun!)

First off, RVS is a section, its not an action. Random voting is a different thing altogether but by the time you made that post we were out of RVS milleniums ago.

And i think you got off the wrong foot. The fact is,
no one, especially me, was trying to lynch QR.
We were trying to get some information by pressuring him and L-2 wasnt going to end up in a lolhammer. And know what, we did end up getting information. If not information, at least QR is fairly active in the game now. You saying that really makes me feel like you were trying to steer yourself away from a lynch that wasnt going to happen anyways.

And you werent following the game, you said it was RVS in post godfuckingknowswhat00, in which point it was very obvious it wasnt. And you isoing someone to get information rather than trying to find information on whats happening right now leads me to believe you were isoing people just to find some easy places to push (not to get information, but to lynch).

A stretch? Definitely. But im confident enough by your behaviour overall that that was your endgame when isoing flairs. Just to say you contributed. And thats why i want to LYNCH you now. I think i got enough information by now. And if you do get lynched, i'll be the one to pull associates.
(by the way 321 is bs)
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:04 am

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@BTD
RVS was over when we were analysing the color thing. I've said that before. People were starting to use their brains by that point instead of just their hands, which is enough for me.

Lolhammer cant happen in L-2. Unless he is a king of some sort, which this game doesnt have.

This whole case is just IO pleading human error on everything.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:07 am

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VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
on second thought I agree with this
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:18 am

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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:46 am

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In post 365, Donempire wrote:Sesq, shut up for a second if you're not going to help. And no, lynch and running LUV doesnt help. Or wait wait wait, dont shut up, you still need to help the town or you're the next in the chopping block.

Now that i got that out of the way, i want to answer IO's post pretty quickly. ('Cause i cant answer it in depth now that electricity cut removed the post i was making. Fun!)

First off, RVS is a section, its not an action. Random voting is a different thing altogether but by the time you made that post we were out of RVS milleniums ago.

And i think you got off the wrong foot. The fact is,
no one, especially me, was trying to lynch QR.
We were trying to get some information by pressuring him and L-2 wasnt going to end up in a lolhammer. And know what, we did end up getting information. If not information, at least QR is fairly active in the game now. You saying that really makes me feel like you were trying to steer yourself away from a lynch that wasnt going to happen anyways.

And you werent following the game, you said it was RVS in post godfuckingknowswhat00, in which point it was very obvious it wasnt. And you isoing someone to get information rather than trying to find information on whats happening right now leads me to believe you were isoing people just to find some easy places to push (not to get information, but to lynch).

A stretch? Definitely. But im confident enough by your behaviour overall that that was your endgame when isoing flairs. Just to say you contributed. And thats why i want to LYNCH you now. I think i got enough information by now. And if you do get lynched, i'll be the one to pull associates.
(by the way 321 is bs)
Well, that's rather hostile for no reason.

I know that's kinda your thing, but still.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:12 am

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Spoiler: wall of text
In post 369, Sesq wrote:
In post 365, Donempire wrote:Sesq, shut up for a second if you're not going to help. And no, lynch and running LUV doesnt help. Or wait wait wait, dont shut up, you still need to help the town or you're the next in the chopping block.

Now that i got that out of the way, i want to answer IO's post pretty quickly. ('Cause i cant answer it in depth now that electricity cut removed the post i was making. Fun!)

First off, RVS is a section, its not an action. Random voting is a different thing altogether but by the time you made that post we were out of RVS milleniums ago.

And i think you got off the wrong foot. The fact is,
no one, especially me, was trying to lynch QR.
We were trying to get some information by pressuring him and L-2 wasnt going to end up in a lolhammer. And know what, we did end up getting information. If not information, at least QR is fairly active in the game now. You saying that really makes me feel like you were trying to steer yourself away from a lynch that wasnt going to happen anyways.

And you werent following the game, you said it was RVS in post godfuckingknowswhat00, in which point it was very obvious it wasnt. And you isoing someone to get information rather than trying to find information on whats happening right now leads me to believe you were isoing people just to find some easy places to push (not to get information, but to lynch).

A stretch? Definitely. But im confident enough by your behaviour overall that that was your endgame when isoing flairs. Just to say you contributed. And thats why i want to LYNCH you now. I think i got enough information by now. And if you do get lynched, i'll be the one to pull associates.
(by the way 321 is bs)
Well, that's rather hostile for no reason.

I know that's kinda your thing, but still.

I guess i was just salty the internet cut off. Sorry about that.

You're still doing fuck all for us though.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:13 am

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I read ISO's because it's the fastest way to find out if someone is at a glance being townie or scummy.
And honestly what you described in that 3rd paragraph is pretty much what I call RVS. It's rather pointless arguing over what post RVS stops at though, but voting someone to get them to L-2 or L-1 (Which MM4 was pushing for to happen) to get information is RVS.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:21 am

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VOTE: Dongempire

You're pushes on me in particular are feeling very scummy.
Like you're whole argument is that I don't follow the game and am wrong about RVS.

And really the fact you are willing to lynch me over just that (and me ISOing) and to end the day right now with such confidence saying that you're going to lead day 2 and find another scum off me flipping scum is pinging my suspicions a bit.
Also since you're saying I'm also scum for ISOing and voting Flairs is furthering my suspicions on Flairs to the point I am very confident if one of you is scum you both are.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:04 pm

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In post 370, Donempire wrote:
Spoiler: wall of text
In post 369, Sesq wrote:
In post 365, Donempire wrote:Sesq, shut up for a second if you're not going to help. And no, lynch and running LUV doesnt help. Or wait wait wait, dont shut up, you still need to help the town or you're the next in the chopping block.

Now that i got that out of the way, i want to answer IO's post pretty quickly. ('Cause i cant answer it in depth now that electricity cut removed the post i was making. Fun!)

First off, RVS is a section, its not an action. Random voting is a different thing altogether but by the time you made that post we were out of RVS milleniums ago.

And i think you got off the wrong foot. The fact is,
no one, especially me, was trying to lynch QR.
We were trying to get some information by pressuring him and L-2 wasnt going to end up in a lolhammer. And know what, we did end up getting information. If not information, at least QR is fairly active in the game now. You saying that really makes me feel like you were trying to steer yourself away from a lynch that wasnt going to happen anyways.

And you werent following the game, you said it was RVS in post godfuckingknowswhat00, in which point it was very obvious it wasnt. And you isoing someone to get information rather than trying to find information on whats happening right now leads me to believe you were isoing people just to find some easy places to push (not to get information, but to lynch).

A stretch? Definitely. But im confident enough by your behaviour overall that that was your endgame when isoing flairs. Just to say you contributed. And thats why i want to LYNCH you now. I think i got enough information by now. And if you do get lynched, i'll be the one to pull associates.
(by the way 321 is bs)
Well, that's rather hostile for no reason.

I know that's kinda your thing, but still.

I guess i was just salty the internet cut off. Sorry about that.

You're still doing fuck all for us though.
And that is correct, and I am working to fix that as we speak.

@io keep in mind he is an angery player so
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:51 pm

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I'll get to this game tomorrow at some point. I swear.
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