Midsummer Night's Revelry - [Game Over]

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:44 am

And like it's really wrong of you to say stop like it's been doing. I've put the idea down every time it's come up and made a point of saying that I think it's bad. But it's reasonably likely that if PA is scum and Cabd is town that Cabd can keep PA alive to endgame.

And PA is like third on my list of top scumreads so that's not something that I'm at all okay with. Especially when there's no super towny pairs to bring to LyLO because towny people keep pairing with scummy people.

hebichan · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:45 am

In post 648, RadiantCowbells wrote:I was entirely against the idea but if this is a situation where Cabd is going to get hard pocketed by scum P_A then the only option is the nuclear one.

Cabd is already paired up, the pocket is burst already.

Firebringer · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:47 am

When is the dance going to begin?
I am still eagerly awaiting to dance with shiro

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:48 am

raybells can you like

not case but point to me to bad posts from p_a?

the only thing in memory that i didnt like from her was giving town points to a2 for her reaction to you/LLD when i scumread that but i've been ok with most of her content other than that

pedit: 4 gents need partners or by deadline

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:51 am

And really, pariah? I don't have personal experience with LLD's scumgame but I've heard her described as very similar to Frozen Angel but with better grammar, worse general towntelling, and more long term strategic thinking.
If she's even comparable to FA then I would never be okay with me not having the nuclear launch codes on her. If there was someone I could trust in this game not to get pocketed or to trust my reads if I was sure she was scum, I would let them. There isn't.

Cabd is already paired up, the pocket is burst already.

Doesn't mean that Cabd can't make it virtually impossible for a lynch on PA to go through by hard defending her the entire game. The problem isn't just solved by them not being paired.
If scum!PA pairs with someone who will not take her down then Cabd's hard defense of her will fairly easily bring her to endgame with their only competition being something like GBT/Priscila, and I'm sorry GBT but after you switched your vote to Maria in that game I do not at all trust you to not get peer pressured by PA/pocketedtown to not collapse near the endgame and walk out.

There are not enough towny pairs for me to feel at all safe relying on process of elimination to solve the game. I want to have the ability to eliminate my scumreads directly.

hebichan · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:53 am

In post 654, RadiantCowbells wrote:And really, pariah? I don't have personal experience with LLD's scumgame but I've heard her described as very similar to Frozen Angel but with better grammar, worse general towntelling, and more long term strategic thinking.
If she's even comparable to FA then I would never be okay with me not having the nuclear launch codes on her. If there was someone I could trust in this game not to get pocketed or to trust my reads if I was sure she was scum, I would let them. There isn't.

Cabd is already paired up, the pocket is burst already.
Doesn't mean that Cabd can't make it virtually impossible for a lynch on PA to go through by hard defending her the entire game. The problem isn't just solved by them not being paired.
If scum!PA pairs with someone who will not take her down then Cabd's hard defense of her will fairly easily bring her to endgame with their only competition being something like GBT/Priscila, and I'm sorry GBT but after you switched your vote to Maria in that game I do not at all trust you to not get peer pressured by PA/pocketedtown to not collapse near the endgame and walk out.

There are not enough towny pairs for me to feel at all safe relying on process of elimination to solve the game. I want to have the ability to eliminate my scumreads directly.

I think I was the one who brought up LLD as dangerous scum to you, because I live with her and have lost to her scum on multiple occasions.

But she openly said she was going to kill you, and now I don't want to see the pair survive past the first dance, so yes. It feels like a pariah move to ask the person who outright said she would suicide on you to dance.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:55 am

You yourself said that there's no one that you'd feel safer paired up with LLD than me. Why am I suddenly a pariah for making the decision that everyone in the game knew was the right one?

I think I was the one who brought up LLD as dangerous scum to you, because I live with her and have lost to her scum on multiple occasions.

But she openly said she was going to kill you, and now I don't want to see the pair survive past the first dance, so yes. It feels like a pariah move to ask the person who outright said she would suicide on you to dance.

I already knew both by reputation and because I read through her scummy nommed game last year and some of her games in 2015.
I made what I believe was the right decision. If you have a problem with what I did then I would love to have you explain it to me.

Firebringer · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:55 am

Hebi do u enjoy being IC?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:57 am

Like sorry but if you have a problem with what I did I would love for you to explain what your problem is and what I should have done differently. If LLD actually is town and blows up on me at the start of D1 that's her affair.

Maxous · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:58 am

In post 640, penguin_alien wrote:And Maxous, it's been three years since I've played the vast majority of my games, but Open 543 ( I replaced into a one-shot cop slot) and NY 168 (you died N1 as a fire goon before I'd replaced in as a one-shot ice cop for the last day of a game that had basically been solved) were the only ones I recognized in your threads list. Maybe you have an alt I played with? Otherwise I don't know.

i don't play with alts.
I checked, it was the pick your poison game i was thinking of. and that was actually longer than i remembered too so i should prob should disregard that meta completely.

idk, i think your reads are overly shallow and appeasing but people who know you better that i am strongly town-reading are convinced i'm wrong here.
i'll give you a bit of slack.

hebichan · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:00 am

In post 656, RadiantCowbells wrote:You yourself said that there's no one that you'd feel safer paired up with LLD than me. Why am I suddenly a pariah for making the decision that everyone in the game knew was the right one?

I think I was the one who brought up LLD as dangerous scum to you, because I live with her and have lost to her scum on multiple occasions.

But she openly said she was going to kill you, and now I don't want to see the pair survive past the first dance, so yes. It feels like a pariah move to ask the person who outright said she would suicide on you to dance.
I already knew both by reputation and because I read through her scummy nommed game last year and some of her games in 2015.
I made what I believe was the right decision. If you have a problem with what I did then I would love to have you explain it to me.

I don't per say find it wrong. I just find encouraging P_A to do the same thing as you rather pointless. If P_A is scum, she'll never do it, if P_A is town, then I wouldn't want her to.

And no, Firebringer, but it happens more often than not.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:02 am

I want someone paired with P_A who will kill her if she needs to die.

Maxous · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:03 am

i guess that means i'll be voting LLD/RC or Gigabyte
maybe Vecna either.

hebichan · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:06 am

In post 661, RadiantCowbells wrote:I want someone paired with P_A who will kill her if she needs to die.

Wait, what? I thought you wanted P_A to pair with one of her scum reads? If she does that.... what?

How does that logic work again? If they are scum they won't kill her.

Vecna · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:06 am

In post 617, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 549, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:the tl;dr is, Vecna, you have exactly zero other reads and it's possible you could be using this to distract. I want to see other content from you.
this is actually a good point :/

vecna can i get a full readlist from you?

Im pretty sure its actually a very easily provable lie, but ill put up a new reads list after catching up on the last few pages.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:08 am

In post 664, Vecna wrote:
In post 617, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 549, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:the tl;dr is, Vecna, you have exactly zero other reads and it's possible you could be using this to distract. I want to see other content from you.
this is actually a good point :/

vecna can i get a full readlist from you?
Im pretty sure its actually a very easily provable lie, but ill put up a new reads list after catching up on the last few pages.

im not exactly in a good place mentally rn but from memory i dont really remember you weighing in on much besides that and cabd being scummy

and raybells can you not ignore me - i really would like to see some substance to that read because i'm not seeing it beyond what i already mentioned.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:09 am

That was my way of softening the blow to P_A specifically.

But basically my deadlist before the nightkill is [Dunn/Maria] + [P_A/x] unless either PA or Dunn does something super towny and I'll make my decision on whether to step out on LLD when day 2 starts.

and raybells can you not ignore me - i really would like to see some substance to that read because i'm not seeing it beyond what i already mentioned.

The read is my own and I'm not going to be explaining it at this time, sorry.

MariaR · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:09 am

Dunn how much do you tr me rn

hebichan · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:10 am

In post 666, RadiantCowbells wrote:That was my way of softening the blow to P_A specifically.

But basically my deadlist before the nightkill is [Dunn/Maria] + [P_A/x] unless either PA or Dunn does something super towny and I'll make my decision on whether to step out on LLD when day 2 starts.

and raybells can you not ignore me - i really would like to see some substance to that read because i'm not seeing it beyond what i already mentioned.
The read is my own and I'm not going to be explaining it at this time, sorry.

And Mine is Dunn/Maria and You/LLD.

So we half agree at least!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:11 am

Do you want me/LLD dead because you scumread me, scumread LLD, or both?

MariaR · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:11 am

wtf did I do to you hebi and RC.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:12 am

In post 670, MariaR wrote:wtf did I do to you hebi and RC.

You paired up with obvscum. Shouldn't have paired up with Dunn so quickly and I would have gladly paired up with you if we could have forced LLD/Dunn or something and forced them to both die.

MariaR · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:13 am

In post 671, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 670, MariaR wrote:wtf did I do to you hebi and RC.
You paired up with obvscum. Shouldn't have paired up with Dunn so quickly and I would have gladly paired up with you if we could have forced LLD/Dunn or something and forced them to both die.

I agree with this.

Firebringer · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:13 am

In post 667, MariaR wrote:Dunn how much do you tr me rn

R u reading?

MariaR · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:14 am

Why the fuck do I always die early in my fav game ever.....zzz I'm selfish and sad
Pedit: Sorry I tried to avoid your slap fight with LLD so not really