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[Flavor Leaf]

I think una said that fl is trying to get our doc lynched somewhere in that wall. fl claimed b4 eddie (pretty sure he did) so thats not the case

none of this is true. he tried to get me lynched, not the doc. the distinction is that I was the target as a player and not a role. he did not full claim before me.

Like, this is incredibly scummy. he says none of this is true, then goes and says "he didn't full claim before me". Everything Paul said in his post is true. Una did say I was trying to get doc lynched, even though I claimed my PR, my loyal, and last night's ability before Eddie.

[Flavor Leaf]

I targeted Eddie last night with a loyal cop shot to a no result.

This is before Eddie claims doctor. I wasn't even auto assuming it was a guilty immediately until you told me I should be treating it as a guilty. It would have made sense to me that I could have been roleblocked.

[Game Replacement]

I'm happy to move on from this shit today.
FL isn't going to be scum, even more so with his night actions.
Also, I haven't ever seen a loyal scum myself (I think?).
Remember, there was a 3rd party. Scum loyal means that it's intended to find 3rd party which just drops 3rd party at a huge disadvantage right there.

Last 3 people claim, don't really care what order.

Then we lynch Eddie and win from there.
He dipped and I doubt he's going to have much else than AtE when he comes back.

Easy game, easy money.

[UnaBombaH]

Like, look at Eddie's posts the past few pages. They've been incredibly scummy, and then he disappears right after I was proven Joat and GR votes him. Sure, I have a confbias about it, but I feel like I'd see it as scum posting without that.

You have not been confirmed anything.
GR could lie about your role, and in any case, he can't know your alignment based on your role.

People need to take their heads out of their asses and think for themselves now.
Honestly, time for blatant sheeping should be over.

I'll make another post later today.

[PenguinPower]

Vote Count 4.04

Eddie Cane

(3): Flavor Leaf, NotTheRealPaul, Game Replacement

Flavor Leaf

(1): Eddie Cane

TwoInAMillion

(1): frog

Not Voting

(4): UnaBombaH, wavemode, Thor665, TwoInAMillion

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-08-29 09:00:00)

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[frog]

UNVOTE:

[Thor665]

I have no intentions of claiming as it will help only scum. And I will not be bullied into doing so.

It will not help only scum,and your refusal/missing/derping/et al to answer my questions, to popcorn, or to discuss the theory you believe as asked is stagnating discussion and game solving.

I have not played in many games in which a massclaim has happened, so I have little experience here. Do you mean what I think is optimal in terms of who dictates the order?

I mean what logic should people use in a popcorn to pick who claims next in your opinion.

I am vanilla townie, I was hoping to deflect a night kill but that won't happen now I guess.

If you are town, and I am dead serious, you need to chat with me after the game is over about the point of fake softs, and the point of mass claims.
If everything you've said is true you wasted about 24 hours for nothing.

I'm almost certain you're a partner. read the wall though and don't reply again til you do

Your theory is that you have outed Flavor scum and Game Replacement has decided to direct lie about Flavor's role in order to doubly kill you?

Okay, so I'm a Rolecop (x shot) and FL is a JOAT. I'm pretty sure Eddie is scum here and that post just seemed like AtE.

I am very frustrated right now because this mass claim is going off the rails very quickly.
Can you please help me get it back on the rails.

I am fine with you obscuring your number of shots - but you really must declare the following;

NIGHT OF ALL ACTIONS ALREADY TAKEN.
TARGET OF ALL ACTIONS ALREADY TAKEN
RESULT OF ALL ACTIONS ALREADY TAKEN.
POPCORN TARGET FOR NEXT CLAIM.

Then we can get some actual progress.
Please and thank you.

[TwoInAMillion]

I claimed already

[Thor665]

I know you did, read my post and kindly note that I was talking to Game Replacement.

You should read all posts more carefully.

[Thor665]

@Game Replacement - you're posting in other games. Citing Night Actions takes a few moments. Crafting a fake claim takes days. Tick tock.
Also don't forget to popcorn, I know it has been exceedingly hard for everyone to manage that, but it's part of the claim.

[Game Replacement]

I was posting on my other accounts. I have over 20 games to deal with and a half solved game isn't my priority.

I don't really care who claims next. Just anyone left do it.
I checked FL last night. He's JOAT, and anyone pushing him today I am going to consider as scum.
I'm going into detail more at a later day or my death says it on flip.

[Thor665]

I was posting on my other accounts. I have over 20 games to deal with and a half solved game isn't my priority.

You were also posting on this account, so...

I don't really care who claims next. Just anyone left do it.
I checked FL last night. He's JOAT, and anyone pushing him today I am going to consider as scum.
I'm going into detail more at a later day or my death says it on flip.

Fair enough, that's very good info to have considering other info it's quite interesting.

I'll popcorn for you, because this is apparently still the most complicated thing in the world for people.

@NOTTHEREALPAUL - you're up for the claimage. Please claim, list all actions, targets, results, and (if you dare and are capable) popcorn.

[Flavor Leaf]

why is paul next and not you or wave?

[Flavor Leaf]

I actually don't care too much. Scum team is Eddie, Frog, and then likely Una. Would explain Frog and Eddie deciding to come together too.

[wavemode]

I think the point of popcorn is that it's random. But we won't arbitrarily let Paul wait and have others claim first because he could use that information to make a better fake claim. Once he's chosen he has to go.

[Flavor Leaf]

Night 1, we know SD had to be a scum kill.

I jailed Frog Night 2, so that likely is why the kill was stopped. Scum was afraid of being jailed again so they did a no kill tonight to try and frame someone else.

Eddie's claimed actions, even though ThinkBig hard softed Day 1, and myself hard softing Day 2, Eddie had been claiming me as town at this point in the game, so much to state he was getting paranoid of me pocketing him at one point, yet he decided to protect Rb, who was pushing Thor super hard Day 1, so if Thor and Rb slot are both town, makes no sense to protect Rb. and Rb was also autolocking Una as town, so yet again another reason to keep RB alive. We even came into the next day potentially going to lynch the Rb slot, and I feel it was very obvious that was going to happen. Eddie's night actions don't make sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

There was also the awkward traitor talk Eddie was talking about, so he might be a mafia traitor doctor letting his team know he was a traitor. He could have gotten recruited last night.

[Flavor Leaf]

If the scum team is Frog, Eddie, and Two, that makes a lot of sense too.

[Flavor Leaf]

If the scum team is Frog, Eddie, and Two, that makes a lot of sense too.

I still think it's Una and not Two because I don't think Two would be so eager to bus a buddy.

[wavemode]

I'm still not convinced frog is scum

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm still not convinced frog is scum

I'm more pushing Eddie right now, not Frog. Eddie is the lynch for the day.

[Flavor Leaf]

For tomorrow, people who are waffling, keep that in mind. They are likely trying to figure out how to not get caught when Eddie flips. Time at this point is just helping scum for reasons that Thor said.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Game Replacement - you're posting in other games. Citing Night Actions takes a few moments. Crafting a fake claim takes days. Tick tock.
Also don't forget to popcorn, I know it has been exceedingly hard for everyone to manage that, but it's part of the claim.

Not only crafting a fake claim. Scum figuring out what they're going to do. Making a plan. Look how convenient it is that Eddie and Frog left right as Eddie basically got completely caught out. The timing of it is impeccable.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm still not convinced frog is scum

Not convinced Frog is scum, what are your thoughts on Eddie? Please don't have pocketed me this entire game, Wave. I'm going to be incredibly upset if that's what happened.

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum is Eddie NTRP and either Una or Frog, I'm thinking Una.