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Not good enough.In post 197, Mulch wrote:Your scum because of gut.
@SIVIn post 179, JaeReed wrote:What information does my townflip provide?In post 175, SIV36 wrote:I can be happy voting JaeReed. I'm sure looking back, his flip could provide more information than Eclipsed/Mulch. But I'm not liking the posts so far from either slot.
VOTE: JaeReed (L-3)
What information does my scumflip provide?
Same questions for Eclipsed/Mulch.
Why are you chainsawing for Llama/ASP?
If you're town this is entirely unhelpful. Please answer my questions.
Do you have reads on anyone but Mulch?In post 203, A Simple Plan wrote:My sincere apologies. Work has been killing me lately- I got called in Monday night, making this past evening five days straight that I've had to work; and if it wasn't for the "rollover" Saturday night, I'd already be into overtime hours for the week. Stocking jobs are exhausting...
Currently my vote goes on Mulch just at a glance. He is just jumping around on any potential wagon trying to see what sticks- when Llama was under pressure, his vote went there. He voted me to try to create a pressure wagon, and now he's on Jaereed who is, with that vote, the largest wagon- and all his reasoning has been absolutely terrible (Meta is garbage; wagoning an inactive is garbage; "gut" sometimes nails people (Micro 732), but is heavily unreliable.).
VOTE: Mulch
@WhemeIn post 187, JaeReed wrote:Who would you rather lynch then?
My current understanding of your stance is that you'd like to lynch me, but you don't want people making "information lynch" votes on me, and you don't want a lurker lynch because it comes equally from either alignment.
I think your pushback here actually might be more likely from town at this point because I can't see a reason for scum to not just join in with something here when we have more than one option but actually push back against both (especially given if ASP is your partner you already set the groundwork to vote me by stating I might be scum), however, we're at 3 days til deadline, and if we don't reach a consensus by then we'll no lynch, which we really don't want. Before a lynch we have to allow time for a claim, so weareunder a bit of pressure here. If you have an alternative you'd prefer I'm all ears.
I started the wagon on Llama, he wasn't under pressure. I voted you as the second vote, so I didn't create the wagon. Jae was not the largest wagon at the time. Meta is the most reliable way to do reads, and gut is valid af with only NINE pages to go on.In post 203, A Simple Plan wrote:My sincere apologies. Work has been killing me lately- I got called in Monday night, making this past evening five days straight that I've had to work; and if it wasn't for the "rollover" Saturday night, I'd already be into overtime hours for the week. Stocking jobs are exhausting...
Currently my vote goes on Mulch just at a glance. He is just jumping around on any potential wagon trying to see what sticks- when Llama was under pressure, his vote went there. He voted me to try to create a pressure wagon, and now he's on Jaereed who is, with that vote, the largest wagon- and all his reasoning has been absolutely terrible (Meta is garbage; wagoning an inactive is garbage; "gut" sometimes nails people (Micro 732), but is heavily unreliable.).
VOTE: Mulch
From my perspective:
This answer raises huge alarm bells. I say you are mafia because you are x, y, z. The easiest response for a mafia is to just say that they did not x,y, z. Especially when saying that you did x, y, and z is a huge assumption on my part.In post 141, JaeReed wrote:I'd say my arguments are original. Don't think I'm parroting others so I'm really not sure where you're getting that from.In post 138, SIV36 wrote:To him, he provides scum-reads based on how easy it is to push them,...argh... he makes all-purpose, generally agreeable arguements but little originality.
I don't think I get scumreads based on how easy it is to push them either because it certainly would have been easy to push you as scum if I wanted to due to you voting clockwork over me off of associative tells. It wouldn't even have needed to look like omgus in me doing so.
First, you've had some interactions with clockwork, daReal/guy, tuber/ASP, and Llama. If you do flip scum, it might be possible for me to NAND-logic some people. A flip of an active player always gives information.In post 202, JaeReed wrote:In post 179, JaeReed wrote:What information does my townflip provide?In post 175, SIV36 wrote:I can be happy voting JaeReed. I'm sure looking back, his flip could provide more information than Eclipsed/Mulch. But I'm not liking the posts so far from either slot.
VOTE: JaeReed (L-3)
What information does my scumflip provide?
Same questions for Eclipsed/Mulch.
Why are you chainsawing for Llama/ASP?
This isn't a scumtell by any stretch and I'm struggling to see how you could genuinely come to this conclusion, honestly. I'm trying to sort out if you're bad town or mafia. You're picking on my wording which is something that is ultimately down to how I type and my personality.In post 212, SIV36 wrote:From my perspective:
You have admitted that you are prone to OMGUS reactions. I feel insincerity when you say "If you're town", I think that was deliberately placed in there. It's clear that my alignment is not the main concern for you, otherwise you'd put more focus on it. This is all a defence of your position. Had you been a town, you'd mentally assume my alignment and work from it. It's clear you are seeming desperate to want your questions answered, yet you couldn't let me assume that you may know my alignment. You couldn't just say "Your post is unhelpful...etc" You had to throw in that extra piece of info to try to sway me from thinking otherwise.
And this is one of many flags that make me suspicious that you are one of the mafia.
You accused me of being mafia for things that I think are blatantly untrue. So yes, I'm going to say I don't see it that way.In post 212, SIV36 wrote:This answer raises huge alarm bells. I say you are mafia because you are x, y, z. The easiest response for a mafia is to just say that they did not x,y, z. Especially when saying that you did x, y, and z is a huge assumption on my part.
When I accuse someone that they waited until midnight, and then I say they probably thought they were cool when they strutted into my room to commit the act of stealing my cash, the most likely way a person would lie is: No, I didn't do that. I was asleep at midnight, and I never feel cool." It's a lot easier to just tell these half-truths instead of just saying "I did not steal your cash at all. " People take the path of least resistance, and saying "I am not mafia" when you are is more difficult than saying truths.
UhhhIn post 212, SIV36 wrote:I town-read Llama because I can feel his genuine frustration with the game being full of lurkers and not getting enough content. Mafia wouldn't be frustrated about this, but they could pretend they were, although that strategy would seem more energy-costly for the reward it would bring.
Also lol. I've already eclipsed both of those post counts combined in like 9 pages. I need to step up my scum game posting rates. I stress too much on the quality of the posts and whether I'm consistent and blah blha blah and then it takes me ages to make what should be a quick post.In post 215, JaeReed wrote:These are my two scum games on this account:
viewtopic.php?p=8426299&user_select%5B%5D=27722#p8426299 < 12 posts in 10 pages.
viewtopic.php?p=8996392&user_select%5B%5D=27722#p8996392 < 22 posts in 19 pages.
Combined that's 34 posts total of me being scum on this account. There's no excuse to not read my ISO in those games and get a feel for my scum game. None of which do I use the phrase "if you're town".