Mini 1935: Green Haired UPick (Game Over)

[Nazeebo]

For some reason I thought the deadline was less than a day.

Whymafia:
Why would scum want to push for a miller lynch right now, when there's so many valid other (inactive) targets to choose from?
And what's wrong with the cookie wagon other than it building fast? Was there any reason not to join this wagon? What did you think of RC's case on Cookie?

A) Pushing an inactive slot can really backfire later in the game.
B) I already said what I viewed on RC's case

If you want to get lynched this is the way to do it.

[Nazeebo]

Nazeebo, agree or disagree that if Randomidget is in fact scum, Cookie makes way more sense as the scumpartner if they're not all scum?

I'd rather not get into associations before I get to see a flip. I'm not really sure I see it though.
rando feels off.
I was hoping jj was town but his inability to commit to this game unless he's in immediate danger is worrying me.

VOTE: Cookie

have it your way.

[Nazeebo]

V/LA for the weekend

I'll try and check in tomorrow in case I need to move my vote

[WhyMafia]

@Nazeebo what was the point in shifting your vote to Cookie when you scum read me more? After all, my wagon is beginning to pick up! And why is being concerned over lynched more likely to come from town than scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

why is being concerned over lynched more likely to come from town than scum?

No: it's why is JJH not concerned about influencing the game besides preventing their own lynch?

[WhyMafia]

I don't necessarily see that as scum indicative though because anyone would prioritize their own survival. If you take any inactive slot, and bring em to L-1, they're of course going to defend themselves, but then is likely to go inactive again.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well I'm not on principle okay with JJH refusing to do anything. If Beeboy was the only inactive person I would policy lynch them so hard but when about half of the game isn't doing enough to read, an inactive has to die.
And that is going to be JJH because I have the best reasons to scumread them.

I still don't understand what purpose you are arguing with me for: what are you trying to change? You're not making me any less townread, you're not changing the wagons, it feels to me like you are just trying to discredit me to try to get the Cookie lynch to not go through. And FMPOV it should be sorta obvious that Cookie is going to go through if they're town unless you think that my entire scumteam is already on the wagon, which doesn't mesh with the reads that you've given. So your position doesn't really make sense besides as scum with Cookie.

If there's some deep secret purpose to what you're doing right now you ought to explain it.

[WhyMafia]

I'm calling you scum because the way this is playing out, you're simultaneously attacking Cookie and I, resulting in neither wagon going through, and you looking all the more townier. It's ridiculously easy to look pro-town in a game where basically the whole player list is lurking/inactive

[WhyMafia]

My guess if you, Naz, and 1SVT

[RadiantCowbells]

You're calling me scum for results that haven't happened yet while ignoring what my intent would be as either alignment.

[RadiantCowbells]

The implication is also that I'm deliberately attempting to force a no lynch: what specifically is my motivation in doing so? Absolve myself of responsibility?
Why wouldn't I just push on one of them at some level not hard enough to get lynched, have someone else get lynched, then continue to push on who I was pushing anyway?
This is assuming that you actually believe that I'm deliberately trying to force a no lynch which feels like a really convenient position to hold right now and seems overplayed.
Like that's a huge read into my intent and it feels more grasping at straws than legit thought process: it's such an obscure thing to do and the way you're pushing me feels so bad.
Like you realize that I'm towny and trying to attack me in spite of it.

Yes, I look pro-town because I'm town and pushing wagons. You could look pro-town if you too were town and actually doing stuff but insofar this game you've done virtually nothing.

[WhyMafia]

Scum intent: Strengthening towns view that you're obv town and push a no lynch through
Town intent: ??? Why on earth would town try to get both scum reads lynched in a game where it's already pretty hard to get people to be active to switch votes/already have a scum read on L-1

I don't understand why you're switching views this close to deadline
We're not having a lynch thanks to you

[RadiantCowbells]

Town intent: ??? Why on earth would town try to get both scum reads lynched in a game where it's already pretty hard to get people to be active to switch votes/already have a scum read on L-1

I am pretty clearly only trying to get votes on JJH. I'm pushing on you because I want you to go tomorrow because I expect to not be alive to do it myself. Pretty damn simple.

I don't understand why you're switching views this close to deadline
We're not having a lynch thanks to you

You keep insisting that we're not having a lynch and that feels to me like you're going to try to use your scumpartners to force a no lynch (because we're voting scum!) and blame me for it.
Why are you so sure that we're having a no lynch if I'm scum?

[WhyMafia]

The implication is also that I'm deliberately attempting to force a no lynch: what specifically is my motivation in doing so? Absolve myself of responsibility?
Why wouldn't I just push on one of them at some level not hard enough to get lynched, have someone else get lynched, then continue to push on who I was pushing anyway?
This is assuming that you actually believe that I'm deliberately trying to force a no lynch which feels like a really convenient position to hold right now and seems overplayed.
Like that's a huge read into my intent and it feels more grasping at straws than legit thought process: it's such an obscure thing to do and the way you're pushing me feels so bad.
Like you realize that I'm towny and trying to attack me in spite of it.

Yes, I look pro-town because I'm town and pushing wagons. You could look pro-town if you too were town and actually doing stuff but insofar this game you've done virtually nothing.

Because you and I are the only ones actually interacting. It's kind of hard ya know ... and unlike you ... I understand that my interests aren't going to be lynched, and nobody else is willing to interact with me. How is saying you're deliberately going for the mis-lynch convenient? It makes sense to me considering you had your top SR on L-1 ....
Lol everyone says my pushes suck. What's your point. Want me to just completely not interact? If you're town, get Naz and some of the inactives back onto Cookie. You're continuing to make me out in a bad light, causing your old wagon to disintegrate

[WhyMafia]

I am pretty clearly only trying to get votes on JJH. I'm pushing on you because I want you to go tomorrow because I expect to not be alive to do it myself. Pretty damn simple.

Well then how come you didn't object when people began switching to votes to others?

[WhyMafia]

You keep insisting that we're not having a lynch and that feels to me like you're going to try to use your scumpartners to force a no lynch (because we're voting scum!) and blame me for it.
Why are you so sure that we're having a no lynch if I'm scum?

I'm certain we're having a no-lynch due to sheer apathy that town is displaying this game. Dany used to do stuff, but he's gone silent, so it's just you and I in this dustbowl. It'd require a massive surge in activity to get your favored lynch through, and the more we post, the more people are going to think one of us is scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

You keep insisting that we're not having a lynch and that feels to me like you're going to try to use your scumpartners to force a no lynch (because we're voting scum!) and blame me for it.
Why are you so sure that we're having a no lynch if I'm scum?

I'm certain we're having a no-lynch due to sheer apathy that town is displaying this game. Dany used to do stuff, but he's gone silent, so it's just you and I in this dustbowl. It'd require a massive surge in activity to get your favored lynch through, and the more we post, the more people are going to think one of us is scum.

Why's this my fault though? What in my play specifically gives you the idea that I want a no lynch versus that I'm concerned about you but want Cookie dead?

[iDanyboy]

I like WhyMafia for town, and I'm fine with a Cookie lynch so I'll switch my vote if there's a chance of a no lynch. I think Cookies got 5 votes on him so I don't think we need to be worrying about a no lynch.

[WhyMafia]

You keep insisting that we're not having a lynch and that feels to me like you're going to try to use your scumpartners to force a no lynch (because we're voting scum!) and blame me for it.
Why are you so sure that we're having a no lynch if I'm scum?

I'm certain we're having a no-lynch due to sheer apathy that town is displaying this game. Dany used to do stuff, but he's gone silent, so it's just you and I in this dustbowl. It'd require a massive surge in activity to get your favored lynch through, and the more we post, the more people are going to think one of us is scum.

Why's this my fault though? What in my play specifically gives you the idea that I want a no lynch versus that I'm concerned about you but want Cookie dead?

You aren't objecting to people getting their votes off Cookie

[WhyMafia]

I like WhyMafia for town, and I'm fine with a Cookie lynch so I'll switch my vote if there's a chance of a no lynch. I think Cookies got 5 votes on him so I don't think we need to be worrying about a no lynch.

Speak of the devil, you're back!

[RadiantCowbells]

Well then how come you didn't object when people began switching to votes to others?

I DID. I never stopped pushing a Cookie read. When Cookie started not happening I immediately made a point of clarifying my position and sticking with that vote.
If you expect me to spend 24h of my waking life yelling at everyone who doesn't submit to my will and vote Cookie then that's unrealistic as hell.

I want Cookie lynched. If you have some reason to believe that I don't, I would love to hear it.

I like WhyMafia for town, and I'm fine with a Cookie lynch so I'll switch my vote if there's a chance of a no lynch. I think Cookies got 5 votes on him so I don't think we need to be worrying about a no lynch.

Switch now please.

[WhyMafia]

EDIT: Missed Naz switching back to Cookie ...
I feel like a fool now

[WhyMafia]

If you expect me to spend 24h of my waking life yelling at everyone who doesn't submit to my will and vote Cookie then that's unrealistic as hell.

I mean that was what I thought after your explosion with Chickadee

[RadiantCowbells]

Dany, no one else is getting lynched: why are you reluctant to place your vote down now?

[iDanyboy]

I would prefer if some one who wanted him to get lynched came in and voted him. I'll be here in 24 hours and can vote him if I must but I think it would be better if someone else post there reasoning for voting/not voting Cookie.