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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:13 pm

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In post 452, LlamaFluff wrote:Instead of trying to counter why Ginngie is scum for pushing a horrible case, they say "ignore it we moved on". That doesn't absolve anything, especially when you are now attacking me for voting you without enough reason. You have your reason. So move your vote or respond to it.
Still waiting for any type of response to this.

I already blew up their spot and now they are hoping that somehow they can ride this out to a deadline, but that's not happening. They literally voted me for not fully responding to a bad Mulch push, I get the time to pick it apart, and now they are ignoring me.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:17 pm

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Don't think that makes him caught scum but ok.
The townread is pre bad tho now that I've gone back to check what you were talking about here. Like iirc llama likes policy lynches on anti town shit which your self vote should fall under yet it had the opposite effect this game?
Eh I guess I can see it. I was just kinda worried the lurkiness and self preservation shit was for another reason.
Still would prefer siv tho tbh.

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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:18 pm

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you're asking me to explain why I'm tunneling one player and not change my opinion and it's stupid.

BECAUSE I CHANGED MY OPINIONS.

"why do you scumread Mulch"

I don't anymore so I couldn't tell you why

"you're scum because you can't explain why you feel a certain way that you said you aren't feeling anymore"

For real.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:22 pm

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In post 453, SIV36 wrote:My top suspicions are on Mulch, Llamafluff, .........and if I'm wrong, JaeReed who I find is a hard one to read.
3v2 llama and Mulch

he votes Mulch

if you want a teaming, this is it.

Mulch=counterwagon
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:24 pm

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Literally I am being voted by

WS - Who only has logic of "bad vote" which only came after others said so. No explaination
Ginngie - Who voted me because I didn't respond to their Mulch case, and now that I have they are quiet
Mulch - Who is voting because of meta

I still think Mulch is just bad town. Ginngie is scum. I don't really think its too likely WS but when he refuses to actually commentate it makes things more difficult.

I also don't think JR tries to start a wagon on SIV like that unless Mulch is scum. So I need to go back and think on that read a bit.

You guys suck.

I'm a PR. I refuse to claim which one apart from "Not BP" because it basically gets me killed tonight. This way at least scum doesn't know what to do. I will claim first post tomorrow. This way if scum has a RB they probably are using it on me, but if they guess wrong between two setups I live. If scum doesn't have a RB, they again have to guess and if they are wrong they risk losing a kill and me being confirmed.

You wonder why there is a different reaction. I am a IC-PR in a newbie game that was slow. What does being active get me apart from killed N1? Nothing.

Now please. Lets snap lynch Ginngie, we still have 12 hours and I know at least Mulch and JR are around. She still cant explain why they are voting me, and I voted them for their bad case which they immediately abandoned. Its just an OMGUS push when I ripped up their first case.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:30 pm

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uh
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:31 pm

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fuck this 12 hours left lol nobody has time to counterclaim anyway :/
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:31 pm

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Zzz I don't sr ginngie tho llama.
This is kinda why I was hoping for siv flashwagon
Can we do that instead? Like compare his iso that game and reaction to being suspected there to here. I can't words things perfectly but it's a fair difference and one I think is more likely scum.

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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:31 pm

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VOTE: siv
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:32 pm

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VOTE: SIV

:igmeou:
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:36 pm

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In post 484, Ginngie wrote:VOTE: SIV

:igmeou:
That emote basically sums up what I'm thinking rn lol
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:41 pm

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Check out that "SIV is scummy town" to "Yeah lets vote him" move from Ginngie there. Remember a few pages ago when he was complaining about me not looking at his reads... and now he is voting a town read from that post?

How is this not scum?
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:42 pm

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Reads change when your highest scumread turns out to be a pr, man.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:43 pm

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Vote is staying
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:43 pm

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In post 482, JaeReed wrote:Can we do that instead? Like compare his iso that game and reaction to being suspected there to here. I can't words things perfectly but it's a fair difference and one I think is more likely scum.
We already proved one game meta is wrong due to what Mulch was pulling on me. There are a ton of reasons a player can be different. Alignment. Game state. Game speed. How much fun they are having. Role. Meta from a single game establishes baseline activity and skill. Meta from a large number of games can start establishing some weaker alignment tells.

Also I still have zero reason why Ginngie was voted me. The actually still refuse to answer that question and now are just sheeping the biggest wagon in a hope to stay alive.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:44 pm

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a few pages ago?

more like 6 days ago

WOW GUYS

GINNGIE NEVER CHANGES OPINIONS

BUT SHE ChAnGeD hEr OpInIoN oN sIv

SO SCUMMY
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:44 pm

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pick a narrative, you're only alive because the wagon on you died
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:45 pm

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i don't know if i buy llama's claim

it's like the same claim i made last game as scum

i was town reading him tbh and didn't like the wagon but now i wish i had had the chance to hammer lol

anyway, he claims first thing d2 or we lynch him

i don't really like siv for scum either, but i'll contribute to the wagon. especially since llama is still trying to push mulch

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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:45 pm

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In post 489, LlamaFluff wrote:Also I still have zero reason why Ginngie was voted me. The actually still refuse to answer that question and now are just sheeping the biggest wagon in a hope to stay alive.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:46 pm

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In post 492, guyy wrote:i don't know if i buy llama's claim

it's like the same claim i made last game as scum
Which is why I'm not unvoting until a full claim
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:47 pm

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wheme hammer, llama isn't happening because of bs.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:49 pm

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nah give siv a chance at least please
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:50 pm

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In post 489, LlamaFluff wrote:
In post 482, JaeReed wrote:Can we do that instead? Like compare his iso that game and reaction to being suspected there to here. I can't words things perfectly but it's a fair difference and one I think is more likely scum.
We already proved one game meta is wrong due to what Mulch was pulling on me. There are a ton of reasons a player can be different. Alignment. Game state. Game speed. How much fun they are having. Role. Meta from a single game establishes baseline activity and skill. Meta from a large number of games can start establishing some weaker alignment tells.

Also I still have zero reason why Ginngie was voted me. The actually still refuse to answer that question and now are just sheeping the biggest wagon in a hope to stay alive.
Except the way I'm doing this meta is different from "tone". It's the reaction to him being pushed. There's a huge difference that I can't explain which is why I posted the iso link and asked for ginngie to look at it.

Ginngie will obvtown or obvscum given time so I'd really rather not go there. Especially given I'm seeing glimpses of her town game here.
Mulch's frustration with me earlier and the back and forth with ginngie I think points to him being town.
Siv has been trying to keep open as many options at opportune times as he can this game. I don't believe his tunnel on me is genuine at all. I think if he's town tho then the scum team are lurkers. I'd be looking at someone like raya due to how she did the catch up then dropped off.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:51 pm

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In post 495, Ginngie wrote:wheme hammer, llama isn't happening because of bs.
Siv needs a chance to claim.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:51 pm

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if we mislynch a PR because scum made a last minute vague claim and we didn't give the real PR a chance it's gonna be kinda ass
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