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[Nero Cain]

(5) Kokochi Oma: Lapsa, Lord Gurgi, northsidegal, mozamis, Impede L-2!

[Transcend]

I've only read two pages

Page 1 and this one

[Transcend]

Well last one

[Nero Cain]

Nero, why'd you vote Impede? You quoted yourself which makes me think it was serious, and I'm wondering what you're basing it on?

My vote is semi-serious. I don't really have any strong reads yet. I mean I have all sort of gut reads but nothing I'd be willing to bet on yet.

Hi everyone! Stoked to be first.

I think sometimes scum make little cheerful friendlish posts like these.

policy daykill: Kokichi Oma

Quote for effect

Why?

for effect

I actually did not kinda like this. I really hate players that claim scum but I do believe that Oma was just "trying to start the game". Anyways, Impede sheeping my lols policy daykill and not really using any words kinda made me feel weird. Like did he think Oma was scummy? What?

Make up your mind. I wasn't the one who suggested a PL on you page 1.

I still don't know what you were hoping to achieve. I can't see any response to that, organic or fabricated, being AI... especially because anyone in their right mind already suspects that you only posted it to stir the pot, so any reactions you get are WIFOM.

Kinda didn't like him getting all up in Oma's grill.

Not to be devil's advocate, but tunneling is a valid town strategy too

Is this scum that knows Lord Gurgi is town? Also its like he's playing both sides from the middle and I can see scum making a post like that.

Quoting my vote was just making fun of his quoting my policy daykill but I think my vote is kinda comfy and I'ma ride here for a bit until the next shiny object catches my attention.

Because he didn't even say anything about it, just voted.

how does that make it opportunistic, or scummy? other people did the same thing or something similar, would you say the same thing about them?

Nero's vote didn't seem fabricated to me. And his was the second vote. Soooo~

Did you neglect to read your first post? You basically baited everyone in this entire game. If anyone is sus, I'd be more inclined to think it's you.

I just wanted to see who would have a weird reaction, and I think I found the person.

Make up your mind. I wasn't the one who suggested a PL on you page 1.

I still don't know what you were hoping to achieve. I can't see any response to that, organic or fabricated, being AI... especially because anyone in their right mind already suspects that you only posted it to stir the pot, so any reactions you get are WIFOM.

So baiting people to see their reactions is scummy? Got it.

Why would scum react to that post???

"Oh ok, sounds good Kokichi. Thank you for the heads up!"

So why bark at him for 3 posts if its WIFOM and you are leaning newbtown?

when we could instead focus on more promising scumreads.

Who are they?

It's not smart play and he was trying to defend his position against northsidegal's questioning.

I think this comes from scum alot. Attacking bad or poor play to make themselves look useful but it serves no purpose in scumhunting. I like my vote.

look useful

serves no purpose in scumhunting

of course you might argue that you were scumhunting but you were already said that you were leaning newbtown so...

and honestly? 41, 44 and 49 don't give me any scum hunting vibes. They just seem like you fussing at KO for "not smart play" but you've already admitted to that so....



Can you explain what the town motivation is here?

attractive saleswoman: We're so glad you could join us on the mafiascum shopping channel. Today we have a very special guest for you, mafiascums very own Nero Cain!

Nero: Thank you for having me here today.

attractive saleswoman: I'm told that you have exciting news for us.

Nero: That's right! I'm here to offer you guys a one-time limited offer on a scum lynch. It is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy. All you have to do is type V-O-T-E I-M-P-E-D-E and bold it by using either the vote button or wrapping it in the BB code.

attractive saleswoman: And don't forget the colon after the word vote

Nero: It should look like

vote: Impede

This is a great offer. Its low risk and high reward and it comes with some great benefits. Firstly you'll get the adrenaline rush of being right and I'll be extremely grateful. Not only that, we'll be down one scum and closer to a town win.


attractive saleswoman: So you get the adrenaline rush, your gratitude, and a scum down all for a vote on impede? I don't know about anyone else but that is a

great

deal.

Nero: I know right? You'd have to be a

complete

moron to pass this deal up.

BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!

be on of the next 4 voters and you get town cred

absolutely free

.



attractive saleswoman: Wait, hold on. Did you just make an already great deal even better? Nero, I have to ask, are you crazy.

Nero: When it comes to lynching scum perhaps.

Nero, mind explaining why you're back on the Impede wagon?

I never left.

Not a very towny way to get a wagon formed.

not really linking the limp-wristed pushback.

but what is the case on impede?

the case on Impede is pretty much the same thing it was on page 4.

though I guess I will add that

I'm curious to hear how questioning anti-town play is scummy.

I definitely wasn't scumhunting with those posts

seem like a contridiction.

How is it scummy? Read that contradiction within his whole post.

I have to agree that this is really a stretch. I saved you the time of pointing out the contradiction by

pointing it out myself

. I even qualified the entire thing by saying you could be annoyed town.

The very fact that you'd jump on this with a statement like "this one needs rope" is so incredibly scummy.

VOTE: Kokichi

KO at L-2

(provided I'm not terrible at math)

I'm also not really a big fan of the "It's not a contradiction 'cause I already pointed it out!" argument. The bolded seems kinda hollow. I felt like the vote was a bit opportunistic and the area of his vote (as is yours) seems like prime real estate for a scum vote.

[Shinobi]

Transcend is confirmed mafia until further notice.

Let's all abandon these wagons now and go back to lynching ASP so we can lynch Transcend afterwards.

Pedit: lol?

Lining up lynches

:Lethinque:

You managed to use two buzzwords to completely dodge the point.
Well done.
I'm so impressed.

I'm a little weirded out by Nero's attack here as well - it seemed to have come out of nowhere and I don't particularly understand it. I'm putting him into null from my earlier townlean.

Pedit:

but real talk Shinobi, it's not like my reasons for voting impede are reasonless. So why are you trying to strongarm a not impede lynch as opposed to debating my reasons?

Honestly it's not even your reasoning that I'm attacking - it's the fact that people just kind of sheeped you after you posted some nonsense sales pitch. I remember there being reasons for Impede but the wagon really only showed up after you posted...That. I'll take another look at your case but the way people hopped on with you looked downright ridiculous.

I also believe I'm avoiding a KO lynch right now as well, so don't think it's just you I'm not following.

Ppedit: Okay I get it let me read stuff for a second jeez.

[Transcend]

Shoot: Shinobi

I don't think I've used a day vig power this fast

But this flips red

[Nero Cain]

some nonsense sales pitch.

my sales pitch was gold. TBH, it could have been better but I got tired writing it.

[Transcend]

I LOLed at 217

[Shinobi]

I remember talking about how that early stuff on Impede wasn't bad, though I might disagree with the point you made about him questioning anti-town play and not scumhunting being a contradiction.
The posts you came up with after that aren't useful - he does have a point about the wagon being kinda mediocre after the fact but that doesn't really dissuade that the early stuff was pretty good.

I also took a second look at his responses and kind of thought they were fine so I put him on the backburner. He basically admitted to just being kinda out there and worked on making some reads. I think he needs to post a comprehensive reads list ASAP because the day is ending and it'll probably solidify a few things.

Also, ASP is voting him for some nonexistent reason which makes that wagon hard to hop on to.

SPEAKING OF WHICH, if we're going to talk about Impede, let's talk about ASP. I don't recall you saying anything about him when he made his second vote post (which is the only one he bothered to reason out) and how mafia it is.

[Shinobi]

So I didn't really sum it up but my summary is that he's someone I'm open to lynching unless he steps up a little bit. At the very least, I'd lynch him over KO if I had to.
I think ASP needs a lot more attention than he's getting and Transcend writing him off as a vanity wagon is pissing me off.

[Nero Cain]

though I might disagree with the point you made about him questioning anti-town play and not scumhunting being a contradiction.

I think it is. If he's saying "hey, I'm questioning this anti-town play" he's arguing that he's scumhunting. Then he caved in to pressure and was like "opps, I wasn't scumhunting, just barking at him."

[Nero Cain]

I mean, TBF, ASP did give his reasoning and I can understand it.

and I dislike the high and mighty "I hope you're ready to get scumread..." in 237. Classic Scumstrat.

[Shinobi]

Are you understanding it because he's agreeing with you or what else is it?

[Nero Cain]

he's saying that it was scummy of Impede to threaten Flavor and Sunlight with being scumreads.

[Nero Cain]

I mean, sure, I'm biased but that still makes sense to me. Tell me why that's not scummy and why it's bad reasoning from ASP?

[Nero Cain]

But this flips red

so I'm prob wasting my words, right?

Why do you not like my Impede case?

[Shinobi]

The reason those two hopped onto the wagon was seemingly because of the sales pitch.
As amusing as it was, it wasn't exactly an iron-clad case and it seems kind of incorrect to say that those two were in the right and that Impede shouldn't have called them out for it.
Then ASP came by and called him scum for calling them out.

It seems like a paper thin excuse to call someone scum because Impede calling them out made sense. What else would he have done in that situation?

[Transcend]

you might've cased a lynchbait imo. some of his posts in that case were ~scummy~ but idrt any of them were ~scum~ if you know what i mean

[Shinobi]

I'm going to bed.
Impede or ASP explaining things would make this a lot easier.

Pedit: Yeah, maybe. I'll think it over during the day and come back later.

[Transcend]

but then again your perspective on tis game is probably a lot more broader than mine

[Transcend]

i took away grammar's virginity because i fucked it

[Shinobi]

but then again your perspective on tis game is probably a lot more broader than mine

Tbh I'd appreciate it if you came up with some good analysis on the two of them.
If you want, KO is the only other lynch for today that's probably going to happen.

[Transcend]

but then again your perspective on tis game is probably a lot more broader than mine

Tbh I'd appreciate it if you came up with some good analysis on the two of them.
If you want, KO is the only other lynch for today that's probably going to happen.

you acknowledge that the lynch is going to be between impede/kokichi

yet here you are still vanity voting

rofl

[Shinobi]

but then again your perspective on tis game is probably a lot more broader than mine

Tbh I'd appreciate it if you came up with some good analysis on the two of them.
If you want, KO is the only other lynch for today that's probably going to happen.

you acknowledge that the lynch is going to be between impede/kokichi

yet here you are still vanity voting

rofl

I thought I listed ASP as a lynch candidate.
Others are interested in him as well.

If you want to keep discussing other lynches, I think assemble has also gotten some heat.

I don’t know how I didn’t make it clear that ASP can be lynched but it should be clear now exactly who is on the table.

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Shinobi