Mini Normal 1961 - Game Over

[Dunkerdoodles]

VC 2.3

Vote Count 2.3

There are 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes for a lynch

(3) Shinobi:

Lapsa, A Simple Plan, Transcend

(1) northsidegal:

Flavor Leaf

(1) A Simple Plan:

Shinobi

(1) Transcend:

mozamis

(1) Assemblerotws:

Kokichi Oma

(0) Kokochi Oma:

(0) mozamis:

(0) Sunlit Diamond:

(0) Flavor Leaf:

(0) Lapsa:

(0) Lord Gurgi:

Not Voting:

Lord Gurgi, Sunlit Diamond, Assemblerotws, northsidegal

Mod Notes: Prodding Lord Gurgi and Assemblerotws

Day ends in (expired on 2017-11-28 20:00:00)

[Kokichi Oma]

Uh, what? How is activity determine alignment?

[Transcend]

shinobi is so active too activ to be scum

Brb vomiting

[mozamis]

yeah not sure i like that. you MUST know what i mean, but once again you are reaching and misrepping.
by activity i obv dont just mean post count, i mean game solving, questions, genral appearance of scum hunting which i am getting from him.
we should have done this yesterday
VOTE: ko

[Transcend]

Could do

[Shinobi]

because you have no way of knowing the difference wrt if she's defending me or not

intentionally or not - she defended you

Doesn't matter - you haven't presented any reasoning so you can't draw any conclusions about anything because you don't know why she's doing what she's doing.
Even if she did defend me you can't glean any information from it because you can't parse her logic.

So, again, please explain your vote on me.

Plausible, but there's just no way I lynch him before players like Assemble and ASP.

why so focused on the lurkers?

Why are you not?
Is there some kind of lurker aversion here that I wasn't aware of until just this game or what?

i mean, are the lurkers your top scumreads? why do you place them at the top of your "lynch list"?

Assemble and ASP are two of my top scumreads, and I believe I explained them on day 1 but I can rehash the reasoning if you like.
Just give me some time to pull everything up.

[mozamis]

what about KO?

[Shinobi]

I remember not liking that wagon yesterday but I can't remember much from him today.
I'll add it to the list of things I need to revisit tomorrow.

[Lapsa]

you haven't presented any reasoning so you can't draw any conclusions about anything because you don't know why she's doing what she's doing.

that's just false

[Kokichi Oma]

yeah not sure i like that. you MUST know what i mean, but once again you are reaching and misrepping.
by activity i obv dont just mean post count, i mean game solving, questions, genral appearance of scum hunting which i am getting from him.
we should have done this yesterday
VOTE: ko

So you're saying it's impossible for mafia to game solve/ask questions/scum hunt?

[Assemblerotws]

@ assembles what r your reads?

Readlist, from town to scum:
mozamis
Lord Gurgi
Sunlit Diamond
Flavor Leaf
Lapsa
Northsidegal
Transcend
A Simple Plan
Shinobi
Kokichi Oma
VOTE: Kokichi

[Transcend]

Oma

[Transcend]

VOTE: Oma

[Kokichi Oma]

Assemble has such organized reads, but fails to be able to explain it.

[Assemblerotws]

Assemble has such organized reads, but fails to be able to explain it.

I've already explained why I want you lynched.

[Shinobi]

Assemble has such organized reads, but fails to be able to explain it.

I've already explained why I want you lynched.

Iirc you haven't explained the rest of your reads either.
Reasoning other than just hopping in and jumping on the FotM would be preferable.

what about KO?

Can you elaborate on why you want him lynched? His wagon makes me sick excluding you so I'm not really all that keen to hop on. If anything I'm even more likely to vote Assemble rather than KO and I haven't seen anything in hindsight to make me think otherwise.

[Shinobi]

you haven't presented any reasoning so you can't draw any conclusions about anything because you don't know why she's doing what she's doing.

that's just false

No, I'm pretty certain you haven't explained your read on me.
Do so now, please. I'm really not a fan of you constantly dancing around the subject.

@NSG: My main concern with ASP comes from the fact that his votes seem so dismissive. His vote on Impede pretty much came out of the blue based on semantics rather than any serious analysis:

I'm starting to like this Impede wagon, and I dislike the high and mighty "I hope you're ready to get scumread..." in 237. Classic Scumstrat.

VOTE: Impede

It's surface deep and he never bothered to elaborate on anything afterwords. It's an excuse to vote someone rather than an actual read and it feels terrible. In fact, he did something pretty similar today, too:

VOTE: Shinobi

Low activity is, and has been, a bad push since 209. NSG's 438 is spot on.

The reality is that his reads are based on almost nothing and he doesn't seem to care about anything else other than dropping his vote and leaving for the day. He has no townreads to speak of and there's nothing in his ISO that amounts to scumhunting outside of these "reads" that look nothing like real reads and look like excuses to vote people.

So yes, him lurking is part of my scumread on him. It doesn't seem like he cares about voting mafia - he just votes whoever is convenient and leaves.

Now to do some work on Assemble.

[Shinobi]

It took me like 30 seconds to look through Assemble's ISO.
He's a lurksack with an unexplained batch of reads that looks opportunistic and shaky. Nothing to elaborate on there - I'm happy voting him as well.

I'm pretty stuck on my third right now, otherwise.

[Dunkerdoodles]

Searching for a replacement for Lord Gurgi
Also prodding sunlit diamond

[Dunkerdoodles]

Not_Mafia replaces Lord Gurgi! Please welcome him

[Not_Mafia]

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[Transcend]

Cow

[Lapsa]

you haven't presented any reasoning so you can't draw any conclusions about anything because you don't know why she's doing what she's doing.

that's just false

No, I'm pretty certain you haven't explained your read on me.
Do so now, please. I'm really not a fan of you constantly dancing around the subject.

northsidegal is unlikely to know why I'm voting Shinobi

^ that's a conclusion

[Kokichi Oma]

@ assembles what r your reads?

Readlist, from town to scum:
mozamis
Lord Gurgi
Sunlit Diamond
Flavor Leaf
Lapsa
Northsidegal
Transcend
A Simple Plan
Shinobi
Kokichi Oma
VOTE: Kokichi

Assemble has such organized reads, but fails to be able to explain it.

I've already explained why I want you lynched.

Care to explain the other reads you have in exact order? No waffling between two people for who should be higher or anything? You just scumread the 2 people that have the most votes on them.

[Sunlit Diamond]

Whoops. Time flies when you're busy as fuck.

It's midnight thirty, I'll be back tomorrow.