Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[northsidegal]

VC 1.02

votes

Internecine

(1): UC Voyager

UC Voyager

(2): Sephiroth, Flubbernugget,

Sephiroth

(1): mozamis

Flubbernugget

(6): sheepsaysmeep, Sergtacos, Katyusha, Not_Mafia, Internecine, humaneatingmonkey

mozamis

(1): BuJaber

BuJaber

(1): Hopkirk

Not Voting

(5): Schism,

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-01-19 12:49:59)

Mod Notes

: how frequently would you all like votecounts? twice per day? once every 3-5 pages?

[Katyusha]

yeah im townreading that entire composition here rn

You do know what a wagon with no counterwagon tends to point to...rignt?

i've definitely been on D1 scum lynches that have been strongarmed by entirely town so from an uninformed perspective this doesnt really help clear you

Who do you think is the scum on your wagon rn?

[Katyusha]

oh just saw nsg's notes

I'm good with them whenever you get a pagetop at any frequency, with like a once or twice a day minimum

thats what i tried to do in the game i modded (and i got like most of the pagetops except for when i depression spiraled at the end of the game )

[humaneatingmonkey]

every time someone's being mass voted because I don't want someone to hammer and use the lack of VCs as an excuse

[humaneatingmonkey]

Flubb, can you tell us who you think is scum in your wagon? you seem to think that it's scum driven

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm not townreading Sergtacos. Maybe if you tell me why he's a better lynch than you are, I'll change minds.

[Flubbernugget]

Flubber’s entrance is basically the same as a previous game I’ve played with him where he was town.

Bujaber’s Moz vote in 139 isn’t very good. Reads as (wanting to sound) annoyed, yet doesn’t quite fit. Moz isn’t the only one guilty of what Bu is complaining about, it’s explicitly not a serious vote Bu is making, and Moz didn’t say ‘confirmed’ town, so Bu is changing his words to make the read.
That wouldn’t make me dislike Bu alone. I dislike Bu because he then goes on to express a scumread on either Flubber or Seph. Firstly, he doesn’t comment on why, which doesn’t fit with his earlier complains about people lacking content/good reasoning. Secondly, those are popular wagons. Ignoring them in favour of the Moz vote looks like intentionally trying to avoid getting involved in the main ongoing discussions. Sitting at the sidelines.

Moz has the lowest content to spam ratio in the game atm, so the vote makes sense in that regard. Your second point is a good one, though.

[Flubbernugget]

Flubb, can you tell us who you think is scum in your wagon? you seem to think that it's scum driven

I still think nm is scum for starters.

Outside of that, I suspect at this point in the game, scum is more likely to be on the tail end of the wagon than the beginning. I will look through isos and analyze when I have more time.

[Not_Mafia]

Someone state intent

[Katyusha]

Not_Mafia is kind of obvtown and your meta where he's more useful as scum is definitely wrong since i've seen him play a decent towngame before (he mislynched me but like i was playing like complete crap anyway and it's also on my ~secret main~; he solved the game in lylo and would have won if it werent for a stupid mechanic that got him instalynched)... besides decent tone 24 and 40 were also good posts that show townie thought process

will gladly hear the rest of your analysis though

also i started sinking my teeth into seph's most recent scumgame, i'm inclined to agree with the meta given based on his iso there considering how much faster he was contributing while informed. his play isnt that good or townie but it makes sense for someone who feels clueless as either alignment. will see if context strengthens this though

[Not_Mafia]

Which game was that? I seem to forget games as soon as they finish these days

[Katyusha]

Which game was that? I seem to forget games as soon as they finish these days

it would kind of out my main if i said that!

+ if you know my main it's the only game we've been in together

[Katyusha]

thats the annoying thing about alting half secretly

[BuJaber]

@mod - once a day minimum and once every 2-3 pages please for vote counts. Within your capabilities of course.

stating intent. At minimum I'm waiting for the continuation of 182, seph to post, moz to post, and UCV to post.

[Katyusha]

UNVOTE:

i hate to be That Bitch^tm and do this but i'm genuinely not ready for the day to end even when those happen - why do you think just those three people posting a little more warrants an end to the day?

also bu you forgot to mention waiting for schism who still hasnt checked in

[Katyusha]

unless

you dont think we should wait for schism lmao

[BuJaber]

Yes schism for sure. I assumed I was last to the party.

moz because that's where my current vote is. flubb and seph because both jumped on UCV. Seph in particular for jumping on ucv and not switching to flubb or unvoting. flubb also for the obvious last words in case lynch does happen. UCV because I'm interested in what he has to say now that we're out of RVS and more importantly what his posts may trigger from others.

At a minimum this should give us quite a bit of insight moving forward.

[Katyusha]

i mean i can agree with that on paper but i dont really know if for sure if that'd be enough for me to feel like i have some semblance of understanding the gamestate rn

VOTE: Hopkirk

sheep and seph can you tell me how you feel about the conversation I had with him?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Don't unvote. If someone hammers, it would be AI and I'd like to see why. I'm actually good with the lynch if it happens.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Or do you think Hopkirk is more probable to be scum than Flubb?

[humaneatingmonkey]

whats a schism

[Katyusha]

Or do you think Hopkirk is more probable to be scum than Flubb?

I'm not really sure - I don't want a claim out of Flubber right now because I'm not confident enough about the gamestate to read off of a lolhammer or kill him right now. He's basically my only scumread when I have a pretty large pool of nullreads

so really he's just a better vote to me right now and i'd rather wait until i hear from seph before i disclose my reasoning fully if it's not clear from the thread

whats a schism

like a divide between something

and also the user who still hasnt posted anything yet

[Katyusha]

like if he's scum great but i dont know where to go from there and how i'd be able to tell if he were bussed

unlike a good set of this table iirc i dont like short d1s and prefer to use my time efficiently which sometimes calls for longer d1s

[sheepsaysmeep]

holy shit two pages overnight

for the record I hate stupid shit like "are you town" "yes" "k ty, what about me?" "town" "ok" and pagetop comments. Do these really need to be single and separate posts? I especially hate them because from my limited experience on this site they're usually coming from town, which is annoying coz I scumread that shit fast. Too much fluff.

it's actually alignment indicative, not fluff

If this is a reaction test well here's my reaction, fix my perception of you.

self conscious

[sheepsaysmeep]

i guess early day wagons are good for pressure/reactions
im fine with that now
seph reacts good under some pressure
what even is a dichotomy

This gives me the impression you weren't seriously opposed earlier since you backed down- and townread Seph- based purely on a basic explination of what he was doing. 'It's an extension of RVS' is explaining intent, not a good or a bad reaction unless you actually have thoughts on the intent. I don't like the way you changed perspectives here.

i feel like with a sort of wagon growing quickly onto him scum!seph would have panicked
he felt rlly calm