Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[sheepsaysmeep]

pagetop?

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Not_Mafia L-1 this pls and make him claim.

[Sephiroth]

Sigh.

[sheepsaysmeep]

fuck no

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Not_Mafia L-1 this pls and make him claim.

[sheepsaysmeep]

@hop

can we use post tags

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: Not_Mafia L-1 this pls and make him claim.

does anyone else feel like this is done only for the claim

[humaneatingmonkey]

yes it's only done for the claim that's 100% correct

[sheepsaysmeep]

do you see why i think there's only scum intention and no town intention there
nm is never today's lynch btw if that was made clear

[Sephiroth]

VOTE: Not_Mafia L-1 this pls and make him claim.

I guess I just don't understand a) what about my interaction with nm made you think he was scum, and b) why the hell you want a claim

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Not_Mafia L-1 this pls and make him claim.

does anyone else feel like this is done only for the claim

You know it's nowhere near L1, right?

[Not_Mafia]

I won't claim

[humaneatingmonkey]

fuck

[humaneatingmonkey]

Not Mafia who do you think is town and scum?

[Katyusha]

146 means that UCV's vote isn't serious (in the sense i later define) given he only commented on one vote, so didn't scumread RVS engagement in general.

UCV wasn’t voting for RVS engagement so I’m still confused about how we’re getting here

I suppose the rest is understandable confusion but still

Also HEM like I agree with your push in theory but n_m is probtown and I don’t really know the best way to make it clear this stage of the game now that I have better reads. I’ll at least echo that seeing if n_m’s reads have changed would be nice

[BuJaber]

Kat and Hop: I'm gonna be honest here, if I were to fully understand what just happened in the last few pages I will need several rereads. It is all over the place. It hurt my head reading it. So look, I will if I have to, but do I need to? I think the summaries you guys posted make a bit more sense, but they don't align. So the real question I'm asking here is do you both agree that you misunderstood each other, or does one of you think the other is twisting facts?

I can see HEM's case (with regards to HEM's own posts) on Hop making sense. But the Kat/Hop interaction is messier.

Also while I totally see HEM's point of view, I am not sure Hop was doing it intentionally. Him not liking the flubb wagon is more AI imo.

I've been playing around with the theory that flubb's wagon could be entirely town. It felt unnatural and exceptionally quick, and regardless of whether all voters are doing it for the same reason or not, the intention behind it seems to be to get out of RVS and get a wagon going, which means if flubb is town scum would probably be a little nervous joining in a wagon that could be quickhammered plus they could just sit back and watch town mislynch for them. If this is true it makes Hop look significantly worse. However serg being on the wagon complicates matters. Like my initial read of serg was obv scum. But when I saw people TR'ing him I thought it might just be a personality thing. Especially when players who've stated or implied having played with him are claiming he's always difficult to read.

UNVOTE:

[Katyusha]

I still think Hop is scum and am capable of casing him but I think I'd like more people to weigh in on him.

What's your take so far?

[Katyusha]

to clarify i'm willing to try to be more clear about why i feel the way i do about our back and forth but think seeing more people be confused/make reads out of it first is more helfpul

i dont really see why you'd unvote here btw

[BuJaber]

Thanks that is helpful, but it isn't what I asked. Do you think you misunderstood him or do you think he twisted facts?

I think this is relevant and I don't want to falsely induce something from your post.

Unvote was just to show that I am definitely moving my vote. Regardless of my read moz is not a realistic lynch. I know hop thought this back when I voted but I disagreed thinking there was definitely time for new wagons to form. Now however the conversation has moved to a place where players have to sort out this hop/kat/hem situation, and indirectly UCV/flubb.

[Katyusha]

Sorry, thought the implication was clear. I don't think his summary was accurate, so yes.

[Not_Mafia]

{Katsuya, humaneatingmonkey}
{mozamis, BuJaber}
{Hopkirk, sheepsaysmeep}
{Sergtacos, Schism}
{Internecine, UC Voyager}
{Sephiroth, Flubbernugget, Not_Mafia}

[Katyusha]

only really disagree with sheep and hop tbh

but yeah this is town n_m

[northsidegal]

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