Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[sheepsaysmeep]

pagetop?

[sheepsaysmeep]

ucv isnt really lurking
it's been like one day

[Sephiroth]

If I'm being completely honest lurking isn't AI for UC. Thats not why I lean scum on him.

[sheepsaysmeep]

would you be willing to say why you have the scumlean
iirc you said meta

[Not_Mafia]

ucv isnt really lurking
it's been like one day

Nah he's been active elsewhere and has things to answer directly that are from the beginning of the game

[Sergtacos]

I think we should mass claim

[Not_Mafia]

lolno

[Sergtacos]

why not?

[Not_Mafia]

It's d1, there's no point

[Sephiroth]

would you be willing to say why you have the scumlean
iirc you said meta

I think an aggressive entrance to a game is more often indicative of scum UCV than not.

[Sephiroth]

For more specifics I would have to talk about ongoing games so thats all I will say.

[northsidegal]

as a reminder, try to avoid even meta references to ongoing games – for all intents and purposes, treat them as if they do not exist.

[Sephiroth]

Okay. Lets just say I've read a lot of UCV games, because thats also true.

[Flubbernugget]

Okay caught up.

Spoiler: Scum on my wagon

Looking strictly at the iso's on my wagon, I would suspect intern and hum. My Not Mafia read was stale, and like Kat pointed out, their tone started to step on more toes as his play progressed. Intern had a poor reason to vote on my wagon (which my counterwagon question tried to show. Unfortunately it was spun into some vca anecdote...thing).

That being said, with the speed of the game, this is already dated.

(hum is a big current scum read of mine atm, hence the read not being explained here)

So I have two pretty substaintal scum reads now.

HUM:

HUM has now tried to push two quicklynches, one with no claim. I've been trying to respect that I'm getting to the point on this site where the scumtells I am used to are stagnating with time, but this is seriously inexcusable, and its honestly pretty frustrating complacent town seems to be to his actions.

And if you believe HUM that advocating lynches like this is garnering good information from reactions, please ask yourself why HUM has provided ZERO analysis on how people reacted to his requests. And no, saying "hop ruined the flub reactions" isn't an excuse.

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

This is a policy lynch at worst.

Bu:

Bu's voting is bad, and he hasn't commited to a single read past his unvote. It looks like moz isn't going to be active enough for bu to coast off a vanity wagon, and his inability to use his vote otherwise suggests his scum strategy was thrown off, and he doesn't know how to recoup.

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I might entertain hopkirk for a third scum, but I'm not seeing any motivatons behind his tangential reasoning.

[sheepsaysmeep]

i thought about this on the way home
it is safe to say that ucv thinks his scum play isnt bad
i find it almost impossible to represent how much ucv thinks short rvs is beneficial to town
i dont think ucv would put me having him as town with some doubt over forcing rvs to shorten

[sheepsaysmeep]

there is

NO

world in which ucv's entrance is aggressive

[Not_Mafia]

It was aggressively wrong, does that count?

[Sephiroth]

Compared to other entrances that I have seen it is *shrug* hes my 4th highest scum read so I'm not sure why this is so important to you.

[Flubbernugget]

Comment on my scum reads assholes

[Katyusha]

Comment on my scum reads assholes

i feel

i might have to towncase HEM soonish when i'm not ready to sleep (being sick means my sleeping schedules going to be a bit weird and i'm also going to have to wake up early on wednesday so i want to make sure i dont fuck that up in advance) - i really think the quicklynch argument is bad and even if i'm wrong about HEM i dont think this is what would be scum motivated about his play.

i dont think he is calling for a quicklynch on n_m for reactions but i think his townread of me came from my reaction towards his consent of your hammer

as for bu thats basically why i'd be scumreading him here. historically i have a tendency to want to townread him when i engage with him even when he does obviously scummy stuff so thats probably why i'm nullreading him here

if you think hopkirk is a plausible 3rd scum though do you think that his interaction with HEM is SvS?

[Katyusha]

anyway - i'm probably going to try to stop reading and responding to the thread until tomorrow since i've basically been on here all day and i dont see beyond towncasing HEM what I'd be useful for besides spamming so i'm out o7

mostly posting this so i know to stop and dont spam anymore

[Sephiroth]

Comment on my scum reads assholes

10/10 would vote for either.

[Flubbernugget]

If he's not calling on the nm quick lynch for reactions, you need to make a case that the day is ready to end.

I'm not fond of pre flipped associatives, but I got one of my scummates to endgame before by harping them on an awkward bus until I got lynched. There's also the possibility that hop is town just having a bad game.

[Sephiroth]

flub, what do you think of mozamis?

[Internecine]

Oh boy that's a lot of pages

I'll go over the thread in an hour or so