Mini Normal 1982: anagrams (endgame) (egad, men!)

[Dunkerdoodles]

Not getting any clear reads so I will vote based off of what is evident. Havo hammered a townie. I know he warned us that he would, but still. That's not a half bad way for a scum to get a fast d1 and excuse himself for picking off town.

VOTE: Havo

this is fair, but i actually think havo is town and really don't blame him for hammering cause boon said so.
as lycan said, theres no one to blame for the lynch except boon.

and there's my posts, sorry if you read this

[Tchill13]

Not getting any clear reads so I will vote based off of what is evident. Havo hammered a townie. I know he warned us that he would, but still. That's not a half bad way for a scum to get a fast d1 and excuse himself for picking off town.

VOTE: Havo

eww.

[Tchill13]

not trying to speed through anything except day 1.

[Tchill13]

D1 Final vote count

Morality (7):

UnaBombaH, Lycanfire, profii, Chumba, Tchill13, Morality, Havo

Dunkerdoodles (2):

eth0s, Fykus

Sergtacos (1):

Nero Cain

Fykus (1):

Dunkerdoodles

Nero Cain (1):

Sergtacos

not voting (1):

randomidget

with 13 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

lets say 1 scum was for sure on because morality self voted... id bet in order from most to least likely scum....

Lycan, una, profii, chumba, havo, tchill.

[profii]

Quickly checking in I’ll pick up on some specific observations later when I have more time.

My first impression of day 2 is that everyone seems to have focussed on the boon-drama, this is a fairly natural thing to do I think but he was VT so although he appears to be a well regarded player on this site, I’m wary about considering he’s reads super locked on and wonder if the scum have used the natural drama focus to cast shade early

It concerns me that no one has mentioned Nero so far.

I agree some slots need to engage, so just to that effect for now
VOTE: eth0s

boon spewed nero town so i'm not surprised he died tbh

i mean i don't know why scum didn't kill me but im not complaining
speaking of which ^
i have reasons to think lycan isn't scum so he is one of my top townreads.

well no you miss my point. Scum already know who is on their team so they don’t care what Boon said

They could have killed one of the slots like Eth0s or midget who had 5 posts between them on day 1 and we would have woke and been like omg guys we know nothing now

They _choose_ Nero, Obviously it was day 1 so despite his PR, he knew nothing yet so his reads were as random as anyone, however I wonder if the scum looked at his posts and went

“If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Go read Nero’s ISO

[UnaBombaH]

maybe im conf bias but this really sounds like w/w to me

Yet again - I like your style Dunk, this was my thoughts exactly.

[UnaBombaH]

lets say 1 scum was for sure on because morality self voted... id bet in order from most to least likely scum....

Lycan, una, profii, chumba, havo, tchill.

OK, this is scum!chill.
I want a votecount before I cast my vote there, no need for D2 to be as short as D1

The fact that Boon went the core-melt selfdestruction-route sort of bothers me, mainly because I still had my VERY MUCH RvS vote on him, and wasn't around during the end of day!
I would've liked to see more from D1, no matter who the lynch would've been.

I trust Boons ability to read Chill, Dunk and me rather accurately with very little to go on, but obviously there's the chance of a mistake (mainly on chill I'd say).
BUT.
Chill listing me as his #2 in the order of likely scum in the wagon makes me feel certain he is scum.

[profii]

I'm concerned that Havo is getting a bit of a pass. Yeah he did what he said he would, but at best that makes the action move from scum read to null, not scum to town read...

[profii]

activity:

- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I shall prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 48 hours (either in thread if it's Day, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you require more than three prods, I will force-replace you.

I just looked and apparently randommidget hasn't posted. No idea if you want to try a prod or just go seek a replace but just to highlight.

[Chumba]

TownTaco: Nero and Chumba are town. They’re going to horribly push you. Don’t push them back.

VOTE: taco

Stupid boon trying to distract me from lynching scum

lol

What was funny about that?

[Chumba]

If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.

Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.

[Chumba]

Profli looks like scum to me also.

[profii]

If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.

Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.

I don't think "Let's hope town don't look into how the game went" is a likely or viable strategy for scum.

Interesting that you get a scum read from that.

[UnaBombaH]

Empathies Frighten Timothies, and Beachwear Claim Milkier Flu: Volatile Railway Lineman

[Chumba]

If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.

Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.

I don't think "Let's hope town don't look into how the game went" is a likely or viable strategy for scum.

Interesting that you get a scum read from that.

I have sort of been scum reading taco from day one.

[profii]

So I've noted. I believe the logic I highlighted is flawed, but you appear to disagree and I am unsure why

[Chumba]

I actually think your logic is flawed.

Scum kill for a variety of reasons obviously but majority of the time it’s to kill a threat to scum most of the time. Second is a PR read and third is a universal town read that could prove difficult to lynch later.

Taco was scummy before the NK. I’m not even scum reading him because of the Nero kill but you can’t just dismiss the possibility that is why Nero was killed. Based on my experiences and what happened day 1, I really can’t thinknof anything else. Obviously I’m conf.biased a little but with a quick lynch and havo’s hammer it’s probably the best time to take out a threat.

You trying to steer away from that theory rubs me wrong. Now you could be right or I could be right. Only time will tell but I trust myself more than I trust you. Until I see something from taco that makes me doubt my gut, I’m fine parking my vote on him.

[profii]

Well this is WIFOM I think.

Nero was highlighting Taco as scum somewhat (to paraphrase). I think if I was scum, it would be brazen to lynch the guy I was scum-reading the previous day as the link is so obvious - I would anticipate the town spotting it and applying pressure, hence I am leaning the other way to you.

Whereas I believe you are saying, nero = threat to scum!taco, therefore must die.

The second part of my argument is that because mafia chose Nero, it creates a scenario where Taco appears scummy, but that does not prove he is scum. Therefore the real scum can manipulate us into a mislynch, personally I think that is easier for them, than trying to talk out of the obvious nero/taco link from day 1. This is also coupled with a number of stating that Taco's normal play appears scummy without their help.

What no one knows yet is which one of us has been duped. Obviously Taco is likely to be either scum or town so only one of us is right here which is the fun bit of this game

I don't think either of us will convince the other one that our theory is more compelling than our own, but that's ok. I think both theories are quite clear and it means that we should hopefully see other players pick one side or the other - this should be useful for the town later. Of course, everyone could just ignore us and move on. It would be really helpful if everyone chips in though of course.

In terms of your last sentence, It was not my intention to steer you anywhere, I am just theorising and presenting an alternative line of thought. You gave me the advice of "you be you" which someone gave me in my last game (now complete so I can reference that!) which I think is advice we are both heeding, despite the inevitable disagreements, it's not personal and we can be glad we only need a majority to lynch


Overall I think it was a cunning play by scum to target Taco but I think I have caught it. I hope I'm right!

[Havo]

VOTE: profiVOTE: [vote/]

Yes this is scum.

[Havo]

VOTE: profi

[profii]

because...

[Havo]

I don’t like Lucan either. But Dunk likes Lycan and I like Dunk.

[Havo]

If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.

Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.

Standard Tacos.

[Havo]

because...

No need to point it out yet.

U can stew for awhile.

[Havo]

Lmao. Boons word isn't golden. You're going to need actual reasoning.

Moves the needle a bit.