Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[sheepsaysmeep]

pagetop i think

[Sephiroth]

Oh good point, the timeline is backwards. Didn't like his defense, then suddenly town, then scum team with no real explanation.

[Flubbernugget]

You've got enough evidence here to vote my friend

[humaneatingmonkey]

he has some town moments. and i can see a semblance of a town mindset and town process. he has some squirmy posts and recently he's squirmy, but he promises content later that maybe i can sort him from. also it's mostly not a progression. it's a re-evaluation after a re-read because i wanted to be sure that hopkirk and i wasn't just TvT throwing shit at each other.

[Sephiroth]

You're right, 2 votes is not very many.

unvote, vote: HEM

[humaneatingmonkey]

he's not in my "i want this flipped" list because i can still see him as town but if later someone flips town in the magic 3 i will re-read the thread for associative tells. sheep being 3rd partner is mostly early calling it but it's nothing solid

[humaneatingmonkey]

whoa there i just got called aggressive lol

not you. i was providing examples of when i noted your defense was whack to an aggressive flubb and then i noted that his aggressiveness feels fake

[Flubbernugget]

That's a bunch of weak loaded language that I expect to evolve into empty promisies.

470 and 473 is what trying to actually sort a "squirmy" player looks like.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Also that "synthetic" buzzword is bunk

how else would i describe off the wall reactions, off the wall pushes, and off the wall progressions from people that is indicative of not having the same alignment as I do.

[Flubbernugget]

Retorting your sarcasm with snark isn't fake aggression.

Maybe you should have called it "synthetic" instead???

And you should work harder on having your pants around your ankles with your sheep read before you call my progressions off the wall

[humaneatingmonkey]

look at our friend flubb here being partial and selective of what players and player behaviors are scummy but only if it fits his narrative

smh

[Flubbernugget]

go on

[humaneatingmonkey]

it's okay not everybody can be good at this

[sheepsaysmeep]

You're right, 2 votes is not very many.

unvote, vote: HEM

why does the wagon being small matter?
would you still vote hem if there were like four people on his wagon?

[sheepsaysmeep]

like if you sr him and you vote him you want there to be a big wagon i think?
like i only see this being scum trying to stay off large wagons

can you walk me through the thought process or smth

[Flubbernugget]

it's okay not everybody can be good at this

You just made an unsubstantiated claim in 535 and can't back it up.

You are now using insults to try and backtrack.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i also want to know this because i think i know the answer if it's a vote coming from town, and i might be surprised if the answer is anything other than that

[humaneatingmonkey]

it's okay not everybody can be good at this

You just made an unsubstantiated claim in 535 and can't back it up.

You are now using insults to try and backtrack.

huh. what unsubstantiated claim?

[Flubbernugget]

Seph might be hesitant on getting his buddy lynched but since his hesitance is in stone we can push that after a HUM flip.

[Flubbernugget]

it's okay not everybody can be good at this

You just made an unsubstantiated claim in 535 and can't back it up.

You are now using insults to try and backtrack.

huh. what unsubstantiated claim?

The one I cited, directly in the post you quoted, that is also on this page.

[Sephiroth]

I checked the vote count and there were two votes. Two is a small number. I want it to be a large number. I added my vote. Not sure what you're getting at with this line of questioning.

To answer your question more directly I would happily put them at -2 if presented the opportunity but I wouldn't put the -1 on if he was already at -2.

[sheepsaysmeep]

oh i see how i misinterpreted that

[Katyusha]

it's a wall ew

yeah thats right i spampost AND wall

the worst of both worlds owo

@Kat: I'm not going to respond to that directly yet since most people haven't been around to weigh in yet.
While we're waiting, can you tell me what game you looked at to decide what scum Hop or town Hop would do, because you're making a lot of very questionable assumptions about my meta right now. It sounds like a personality read to me, not a scumread.

It's got nothing to do with your specifically - when I try to read people I try to put themselves in their shoes in try to understand their trajectory. From what I've suggested town!you would do just makes more sense to me as the town motivated play from someone in your position. If you're town and thus what I would expect you to do is off, then let me know why that's the case.

Kat,

Your case doesn't go into much detail about the more recent interactions with Hopkirk and HEM. Dismissing it all as "happy to discard [the townread] once pressure came towards HEM's way" seems really confbias-y.

Valid criticism tbh, I just figured the point has been belabored so much that it'd just clog up the wall more and people already typically don't read walls and that HEM would probably be able to explain it better than I would.

Also Bu, I do intend to develop that meta read, although I was going to pick your most recent town game (the one where derpy is a SK) since you got mislynched and I'd see why that table scumread you.

There's a lot going on after this from what I see so give me a moment first.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I checked the vote count and there were two votes. Two is a small number. I want it to be a large number. I added my vote. Not sure what you're getting at with this line of questioning.

To answer your question more directly I would happily put them at -2 if presented the opportunity but I wouldn't put the -1 on if he was already at -2.

but do you think i'm scum? and how do i fare in comparison to your other reads?

[Flubbernugget]

Kat

The problem with that is that I'm more convinced on hop's portrayal than hum.

Though tbf, that's more along the lines of HUM being scum than me checking the citations