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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:51 am

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In post 581, Katyusha wrote:people obviously seemed to be annoyed by you bc this feels very you + me vs everyone else and sheep kind of unsure
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tbh it's more of you two powering and everyone else lurking
i mean i feel like this means smth that i dont want to be thinking about 20 minutes before an exam
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:54 am

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Consistency is not inherently townie, but trying to say is scum is flat out wrong. It speaks nothing of motivations.

Also saying it makes more sense to put town in a POE list than a null is probably the strangest thing I've heard, like, ever.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:57 am

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How would monkey know which of the contentless slots to put in? They're basically all identical

at least with sheep he has previous suspicion that makes sense in that team dynamic.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:59 am

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In post 595, sheepsaysmeep wrote:wait i saw the word hydra
can someone hydra with me after this game
hell yeah. on two different sites!

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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:00 am

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Katyusha wrote:How would monkey know which of the contentless slots to put in? They're basically all identical

at least with sheep he has previous suspicion that makes sense in that team dynamic.
Well you then have to argue why putting someone at the top of his reads list that he was suspicious of makes sense.

Ans typically people will say something along the lines of "and one of the lurkers".

Like, if lurkers never made it into scum lists, the optimal strategy for scum would have to be staying as inactive as possible.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:03 am

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I mean I concede that that's what most people (including myself) would do, but the point is I see where monkey is coming from and it makes sense. It might not be intuitive for everyone but saying it's a scummy trajectory and that it doesn't make sense is wrong when you take into account that he's had doubts about Sheep's alignment.

That does remind me that if Serg is going to keep doing nothing game advancing I wouldn't mind offing his slot at this point.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:05 am

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ive outposted everyone D:
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:05 am

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can we talk about serg wanting to massclaim
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:06 am

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In post 606, sheepsaysmeep wrote:ive outposted everyone D:
I'm only 3 posts behind you.

I do want to take a break though bc mozamis needs to post imo
sheepsaysmeep wrote:can we talk about serg wanting to massclaim
probably a dumb joke and im not going to act like it's ai
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:07 am

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like it's pmuch dependent on why he wanted to massclaim

@SERG WHY YOU WANT MASSCLAIM


pedit he asked "why not"
it's likely serious tbh
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:08 am

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i feel all over the place
like i want to fix it
i dont have the actual motivation to
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:12 am

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In post 609, sheepsaysmeep wrote:like it's pmuch dependent on why he wanted to massclaim

@SERG WHY YOU WANT MASSCLAIM


pedit he asked "why not"
it's likely serious tbh
Who wouldn't want a massclaim?
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:13 am

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a lot of people

... you have over a 1000 posts on mafia games, surely you know by now outting PRs day 1 means that scum can figure out who to kill?

this is a normal game so set ups are designed to be hurt by massclaims more than helped.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:14 am

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In post 605, Katyusha wrote:I mean I concede that that's what most people (including myself) would do, but the point is I see where monkey is coming from and it makes sense. It might not be intuitive for everyone but saying it's a scummy trajectory and that it doesn't make sense is wrong when you take into account that he's had doubts about Sheep's alignment.

That does remind me that if Serg is going to keep doing nothing game advancing I wouldn't mind offing his slot at this point.
How does 605 account for having a suspicious player at the top of your reads list
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:15 am

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Lol at the quote
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:16 am

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I don't know if this is scum serg or town serg tbh
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:16 am

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serg is as serg does
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:19 am

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are people seriously taking my quotes seriously omg yall need to tone down a bit man. like its common sense that we shouldnt have a mass claim on d1, i just wanted to see some answers to my post lol jesus
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:19 am

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top is scummiest. Bottom tier I don't really want to lynch today. Could be persuaded otherwise. Middle tier I don't have a particularly strong read on.

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The Bu wagon stalled kind of awkwardly and that intrigues me.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:20 am

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People are ordered within their tiers, though.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:21 am

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In post 454, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Not_Mafia
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i just sort of assumed this was an unordered list since i'm not at the top but

sure, the list isn't putting that suspicion into account. does it need to?

HEM said that he feels sheep is mostly town and only didn't like some parts of his gameplay. I don't think you can act like this is a smoking gun though if he has reason to not act on the parts he disliked and thus townreads sheep, and if the read was taking associatives into consideration.

Both of which are the case here.

If you want to talk about scummy trajectory let's talk about Bu.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:24 am

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Serg, what did you get out of your massclaim call in terms of reads?
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:26 am

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All HEM had to do was say his list was unordered. . He didn't. He backpedaled instead.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:27 am

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It isn't backpedaling if he already stated reason to scumread sheep, which is the point.
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:30 am

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Flub stop tunneling for now and vote bu. Its the cool new hip thing to do.
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