Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[sheepsaysmeep]

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[mozamis]

what he is doing is POE. if we lynch X, X, and X, we will hit scum. it has worked really good many times. what do you find bad about it. the fact that a player is there that you think should not be there?

(sure, he's been replaced, but the role pm remains the same)
this post is scummy. there wa sso much to catch up on, to talk about, and he gives us some theory?

[mozamis]

Can I be replaced with my alt, DoYouKnowDeWay?

AH FOR FFS LOL

[Internecine]

It's reading time

[humaneatingmonkey]

Yep. I agree. You should have asked him to post it in the day chat first before posting it so that you can both edit it together. Nice theatre.

-> Scum being a counterwagon to scum is stupid and unlikely
-> Scum bussing their buddies into L1 territory during a game that's extremely lax about quickhammers/derphammers is stupid and unlikely

Narrative much?

I agree with sheep. This is very good POV. But still not enough to remove my sr because Flubb is still scum in the game's context.

[sheepsaysmeep]

It's reading time

woot woot

[humaneatingmonkey]

idk why but Moz's reasons for townreading me aren't really things that I'll townread me for. it really seems like pocketing.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Plus he says he's been townreading Flubb but went hostile with him earlier.

I'm not buying town!Moz here.

[Internecine]

@Intern - 188 was me stating intent. But I was saying I wouldn't until the people I mentioned posted and even after that I may decide I want more time.

That was 188. Now I don't want flubb dead yet. Gotta sort out the scummier options first: serg, intern, moz.

If you were townreading him until recently (in the context of page 16ish) idk why you'd state intent on him lol

[Flubbernugget]

Plus he says he's been townreading Flubb but went hostile with him earlier.

I'm not buying town!Moz here.

Wasn't that along the lines of them thinking I'm stupid town?

[mozamis]

can someone tell me what occam's razor is

OCCAM was medieval philosopher who basically said the simplest answer is often the correct one. Shave off all the fluff, get rid of the nonsense, use the razor of simplicity to get to the truth.

in mafia terms, people use it as interchangeable for "obvious is the correct answer".
for the record i reckon its a good way of nailing two thirds of scum?!

[mozamis]

Plus he says he's been townreading Flubb but went hostile with him earlier.

I'm not buying town!Moz here.

Wasn't that along the lines of them thinking I'm stupid town?

i was in abad mood and he pissed me off. i may have been abit harsh on him.
but yeah, the fact that flubb was arsey as well i took as town. scum normally less aggro.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Flubb, do you think they were fine reactions to someone thinking you are just stupid town? Also, I didn't recall that he was saying you were just stupid town.

[mozamis]

idk why but Moz's reasons for townreading me aren't really things that I'll townread me for. it really seems like pocketing.

you're probably still annoyed because i scum read you earlier. you'll calm down and see the truth soon.

[Flubbernugget]

Possibly tangential but occam's razor is typically misapplied as a proposition instead of a heuristic.

[mozamis]

@Intern - 188 was me stating intent. But I was saying I wouldn't until the people I mentioned posted and even after that I may decide I want more time.

That was 188. Now I don't want flubb dead yet. Gotta sort out the scummier options first: serg, intern, moz.

If you were townreading him until recently (in the context of page 16ish) idk why you'd state intent on him lol

good catch!
town points for inter.

[Flubbernugget]

Flubb, do you think they were fine reactions to someone thinking you are just stupid town? Also, I didn't recall that he was saying you were just stupid town.

My previous experience with moz involved them being pretty temperamental, and IIRC I was being a douche in the last game I played with them.

So, yes.

[Internecine]

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@Intern: Do you have no thoughts on the Kat/Hop/HEM interactions?

Kat town, HEM townlean, scumlean on you I guess

Least confident on the read on you, I need to go over the interactions again with less skimming

[humaneatingmonkey]

you're probably still annoyed because i scum read you earlier. you'll calm down and see the truth soon.

Actually, the opposite. I'd be fine whatever. But you being wary about my reaction (since I bite back) and your subsequent townreadings of me that I can't see made with good process makes me reallllyyy think that something's fishy going on here.

[mozamis]

you'll note as soon as started my catch up a few hours ago today, i changed my read on you. so there was "good process".
anyway, i think i am done., i may have missed a few pages, but i think i have most of it.

[mozamis]

So lynch order - most scummy to least:
Buj, Hop,DoYou (probably scum team)

Serg, Inter, Schism.

Everyone else town.

[humaneatingmonkey]

1. Monkey is too aggro
2. Monkey is ballsy

This is true of my town and scum game (the most recent where I was force replaced — I was force replaced for being aggressive!). In comparison to Kat's case or whoever, this is not something I see as valid reason to townread me for without reservations especially coming out from a scum read on me.

Why am I wrong

[humaneatingmonkey]

You might say "Yeah there are other reasons" but I didn't hear those reasons from you. I heard these two points.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Also, what about Hop-Buj interaction makes you think scumteam? Because I actually see that they might not be a scumteam. Hopkirk hopped into the BuJ wagon at a time when it doesn't make sense to do it if they're partners. Also, if they're buddies, they buddied first before distancing — which isn't something scum would do because I think they would distance first and then buddy.

[Internecine]

It's Flubb and Hopkirk, but

Hopkirk-Buj does not make sense

. So it could be sheep, as the third partner. Quote this in end game.

Kinda curious about this please explain?