Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[northsidegal]

VC 1.14

votes

Internecine

(3): DoYouKnowDeWay, Rem, Hopkirk

Flubbernugget

(1): BuJaber

BuJaber

(2): Sephiroth, Sergtacos

DoYouKnowDeWay

(6): sheepsaysmeep, Not_Mafia, humaneatingmonkey, Katyusha, Internecine, mozamis

humaneatingmonkey

(1): Flubbernugget

Not Voting

(0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-01-19 12:49:59)

Mod Notes

: Prodding DoYouKnowDeWay

[Katyusha]

why are you trying to work out d1 by teams?

if you're town you're just going to wind up confbiasing yourself - start by explaining how my play is scum motivated and let's work from there

like nothing about this change in thoughts feels organic but i dont see the harm in humoring you

[sheepsaysmeep]

hop defending against the ucv lynch really does feel unnatural
am i the only one that scumleans seph

[sheepsaysmeep]

would it be beneficial to wait for ucv to get replaced and then have the replacement claim
like if he's a strong semi confirmable pr this would be a huge loss
we would still have a lot of time to redirect a lynch too

[sheepsaysmeep]

Does anyone in the game scumread Sheep/NM/Rem

three towns
no

[humaneatingmonkey]

my main objective for this wagon is more content. not a lynch. but a lynch is on the table.

[Katyusha]

Mod Notes: Prodding DoYouKnowDeWay

and now we wait

[Katyusha]

would it be beneficial to wait for ucv to get replaced and then have the replacement claim
like if he's a strong semi confirmable pr this would be a huge loss
we would still have a lot of time to redirect a lynch too

i think so but i cant see him lurking it out

he's either going to request a replace out or catch up and explain himself

[Hopkirk]

why are you trying to work out d1 by teams?

if you're town you're just going to wind up confbiasing yourself - start by explaining how my play is scum motivated and let's work from there

like nothing about this change in thoughts feels organic but i dont see the harm in humoring you

Alternatively, I'll explain my thought when I'm ready. It's not like you've been open about detailing your read on me.

hop defending against the ucv lynch really does feel unnatural
am i the only one that scumleans seph

What's unnatural about 'lets vote scumreads instead of inactives'

[humaneatingmonkey]

I mean, if there's a chance Kat is scum, I'd be happy to hear about it. It's not like they're flip associations where you say them out loud right now would compromise reactions. This is just explaining your reads.

[Flubbernugget]

DYKDW is a big boy, I'm sure he can defend himself on his own. Especially considering his lynch is for more than just inactivity.

You're picking and choosing who has to defend themselves.

[sheepsaysmeep]

hop defending against the ucv lynch really does feel unnatural
am i the only one that scumleans seph

What's unnatural about 'lets vote scumreads instead of inactives'

like
you dont have a read on ucv
but you seem strongly against his lynch
when we did provide our reasons
it just feels forced

[sheepsaysmeep]

kat is obvtown

[Flubbernugget]

why are you trying to work out d1 by teams?

if you're town you're just going to wind up confbiasing yourself - start by explaining how my play is scum motivated and let's work from there

like nothing about this change in thoughts feels organic but i dont see the harm in humoring you

This is at hop right?

Because there's another player that's been a lot worse about solving the game via teams.

[Katyusha]

There's a difference between how hop and hem are doing it flubb

not sure how you think i havent been open about detailing my read on you tho hop

[Flubbernugget]

Go on

[Flubbernugget]

I'm of the opinion that calling a scumteam d1 is such a fundamentally terrible way to play that picking out the different ways of doing it is false nuance, but this still should be interesting.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Okay let's talk about other stuff but eyes on the price. I don't want anyone unvoting or moving away from the DeWay wagon.

[Flubbernugget]

just be clear, there is no rush. we can give th eguy a day after his prod.
but the worry always is: that won will start infighting and lose focus and start a wagon on someone else.
So happy to give the guy time, as long as we all agree to a sabbatical while we wait.

Keeping the ucv/alt thing in mind, this is a good post and a good tactic

[Flubbernugget]

There's plenty of targets mafia can easily pick that don't change the conversation.

You know mafia doesn't want to change the conversation how??

[humaneatingmonkey]

Ah. Flubb is town.

[Katyusha]

Go on

"I'm going to say I caught the scumteam of Hop/Flub/Sheep in this post but not actually play the game right now as if that's the team because I'm not absolutely sure about some of my other reads." and "There is a possibility I am wrong about Bu considering Hop and Flub are happy to lynch him on D1 when there's other options, I need more data"

vs

"I'm townreading or leaning everyone except a set of 5 people, and these three people have interactions that make me feel like I have found the scumteam"

There's a big difference in these mindsets I think that should be kind of self-explanatory. If not, one is using potential interactions to take a step back and reevaluate in the case he's wrong. The other is coming to a pre-written conclusion.

I don't see what reason Hop has to not explain the scum perspective of my posting.

Ah. Flubb is town.

I've always been more sure of Hop anyway

[Katyusha]

"There is a possibility I am wrong about Bu considering Hop and Flub are happy to lynch him on D1 when there's other options, I need more data"

maybe i should rephrase this

"maybe one of my scumreads is wrong considering the other two are pushing them"

it's the same point but worded more clearly

[Hopkirk]

There's plenty of targets mafia can easily pick that don't change the conversation.

You know mafia doesn't want to change the conversation how??

Based on my townreads right now.
The focus is on you/me/HeM/Bu.
Haven't finished looking at Bu. If he seems town, they want the focus to remain on us. More specifically, me/Monkey. More likely to prefer thought revaluation to happen later.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Flubb, why have you been pushing me then? It doesn't feel like any of the reasons you pushed me so far are reasons enough to commit to it? It's not just friction, is it?