im not proposing anything yet. no need to propose a team we are on day 2. I just want find 1 scum first.In post 548, Dunkerdoodles wrote:so tacos/fykus/profii is what you're proposing?
off the top of my head i think una is a more likely partner than profii
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here profii is showing fine reasoning the issue is at this point if tacos is scum so is profii.In post 287, profii wrote:
I don't think "Let's hope town don't look into how the game went" is a likely or viable strategy for scum.In post 285, Chumba wrote:
Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.In post 279, profii wrote:If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”
Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.
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that's fair just wonderingIn post 550, Tchill13 wrote:
im not proposing anything yet. no need to propose a team we are on day 2. I just want find 1 scum first.In post 548, Dunkerdoodles wrote:so tacos/fykus/profii is what you're proposing?
off the top of my head i think una is a more likely partner than profii- Tchill13
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defending tacos because scum would be too dumb to blatantly kill nero is fine reasoning.In post 303, profii wrote:Let’s see
randommidget - ?
Fykus - concern at that rush to lynch today, but had promised further analysis
Dunker - seems to be posting in a towny manner
Tchill - you seem to have ceased your concerning efforts to buddy me
Sergtacos - town lean on the basis I think he is getting stitched up today for a mislynch
UnaBombah - town lean
Lycan - town lean
Havo - set themselves up for a free pass today, null read but concerned.
eth0s - need more content, null.
Chumba - potential involvement in stitching up of Taco so scum lean
That’s where I’m at. Feel free to query
thats your only play though. You have ONE possible scum lean. All you're doing is defending tacos.
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im pretty sure day 2 is taco tunneling chumba.In post 305, Sergtacos wrote:
this sounds like he's thinking too hard on trying to make me look scum. lol this guy is obv scumIn post 285, Chumba wrote:
Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.In post 279, profii wrote:If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”
Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.
after fykus decided to vote chumba.
after taco decided to vote me because of morality but fykus voted chumba...
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profii if i asked you who was scum and you couldn't say chumba could you give me an answer?In post 313, profii wrote:#292
Scum!taco had to go into the night chat and either say or read his mate say “Nero’s on to me, let’s kill him” “surely town will read his ISO and look for clues as to why he died” “no no no”
Scum-team!no-Taco might have said “right who is looking scummy” “a couple of people have said Taco looks scummy” “ok guys find someone who was really gunning for Taco and town will think Taco nk’d him because of the threat” “kill Nero”
Click on Nero’s iso and it’s very clear he had a strong focus on Taco.
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great post.In post 318, Lycanfire wrote:
I don't see why.In post 311, profii wrote:If this was the definitive mafia playbook we would have already insta-lynch Tacos.
"DAE think tacos is town because I think tacos is town due to NKA" uhm, yeah, I suppose you encouraged people to in push tacos in reverse? Forgive me if your conclusion here (the rather expressive "there were tells to be had!") doesn't ring the sincerity bell.In post 311, profii wrote:I think the legitimate reason to put the 2 theories out there is when we do get the flip, we can see who was pushing for the mislynch or pushing to save a scammer depending on which way it goes so it still holds some value. Now we have got into the mechanics of it, people are more likely to sit on the fence so that’s a shame. There were tells to be had imo!
You care too much about the scum pt, get a better read on this thread instead.In post 314, profii wrote:Thoughts?- Tchill13
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profii i have no issue with your theory except that it's all you provide. very easy to get ahead of yourself with that line of thinking. You "assume" the scum team is good enough to account for that "blatant" mistake. Giving people too much credit is more dangerous than not giving people enough credit. you become your worst enemy at that point.- Dunkerdoodles
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this is fair but what i'm saying is i don't see anything really scummy in his posts so i have no real reason to scumread himIn post 557, Tchill13 wrote:profii i have no issue with your theory except that it's all you provide. very easy to get ahead of yourself with that line of thinking. You "assume" the scum team is good enough to account for that "blatant" mistake. Giving people too much credit is more dangerous than not giving people enough credit. you become your worst enemy at that point.- Tchill13
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now im trying to figure out if profii is scum defending his scum buddy or misguided town.In post 339, Lycanfire wrote:What did I say - that speculation was ultimately pointless? If you want Tacos there's a number of reasons you can push - except - you don't want Tacos, and want to make it about NKA and why he's probtown as a result. Meanwhile you're upset with me for playing spoiler to your attempt to gain "tells"... Did I mention the conversation was pointless? Most concerning is that your reads are genuinely unhelpful, if not anti-town. How it's okay to leave them in that state and instead speculate on something you should have no knowledge of, and then dig into that position when told to move on is complete wank.
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last thought: this is actually a great post. It shows that before Scum could have "framed" tacos profii showed a passiveness to discuss or vote tacos.In post 546, profii wrote:
This is a terrible postIn post 519, Tchill13 wrote:
instead of profii commenting on the lack of tacos votes profii moves to discredit morality here.In post 114, profii wrote:
everyone will naturally stretch on day 1, it's not scummyIn post 112, Morality wrote:I literally made like two actual posts prior to this page, so anyone pushing that as scum is scummy as hell and really stretching. I don’t like early games.
@Unah - you made a comment that i don’t think any of them will understand due to everyone e else but you is unaware, I believe. I don’t care if it’s aware, but yeah. Nobody is, I believe.
this is why even though you aren't too terribly scummy and have a mindset about the situation i can agree with....
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Cause I was already scum reading tacos still wanted him lynched. I was giving fykus the benefit of the doubt of misreading.In post 542, Tchill13 wrote:chumba why did you vote tacos here instead of fykus? he cherry picked what morality said versus tacos just known for being scummy.
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Why? My last 2 scum games I killed people scum reading me.In post 549, Tchill13 wrote:
the issue with this is if scum have any competent players with taco i doubt they allow that kill. Then again simplest solution could be true.In post 285, Chumba wrote:
Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.In post 279, profii wrote:If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”
Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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no, the bit you quoted is out of contextIn post 561, Tchill13 wrote:
last thought: this is actually a great post. It shows that before Scum could have "framed" tacos profii showed a passiveness to discuss or vote tacos.In post 546, profii wrote:
This is a terrible postIn post 519, Tchill13 wrote:
instead of profii commenting on the lack of tacos votes profii moves to discredit morality here.In post 114, profii wrote:
everyone will naturally stretch on day 1, it's not scummyIn post 112, Morality wrote:I literally made like two actual posts prior to this page, so anyone pushing that as scum is scummy as hell and really stretching. I don’t like early games.
@Unah - you made a comment that i don’t think any of them will understand due to everyone e else but you is unaware, I believe. I don’t care if it’s aware, but yeah. Nobody is, I believe.
this is why even though you aren't too terribly scummy and have a mindset about the situation i can agree with....
you could still be his partner.
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I'm leaning towards tacos being the lynch today anyways I've got about 10 more pages to go.In post 564, Chumba wrote:Like I don’t want to strong arm any lynches because people hate when I do it but I just don’t really see how tacos or fykus for that matter are town.- profii
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I accept that and I could easily be wrong - Ill answer your question about alternatives when you’ve apparently finished working your way through the threadIn post 557, Tchill13 wrote:profii i have no issue with your theory except that it's all you provide. very easy to get ahead of yourself with that line of thinking. You "assume" the scum team is good enough to account for that "blatant" mistake. Giving people too much credit is more dangerous than not giving people enough credit. you become your worst enemy at that point.
I looked at Tacos ISO just now and he’s a little bit scummy, I guess I probably looked at a defence for him on the basis of the people pushing for him are quite assured which seems disproportionate to the amount of scum tingles I get from him
Combined with a couple of people saying his scummy posts are his meta, I think I’ve made the right call.
Also to make a point - if we lynch Taco now and he flips scum- I would guess a lot of people will lynch me the day after which is fair because I defended him. To prove a point though, I think I’ve made a couple of assertions later in the thread. Let’s pretend I got a scum player bang to rights - I’d be fairly confident they still wouldn’t NK me tonight on the basis that I’m an easy mislynch. Even when I flip Town, if I did have someone bang to rights the scum could talk my read away as “he had Taco so wrong, he’s a bad town”
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Hmm.. Every time I revisit this thread and want to comment on something, someone else beats me to it. And multiple people have called me out for relying on other's reads or something like that. So I won't bother echoing most of what I agree with. One thing I don't believe anyone has commented on is the possibility of all this dunker/tchill banter being s/s? I'm still leaning town on tchill and have no clear read on Dunker. But at the same time some of their conversation reeks of scum.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- Chumba
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How about trying to doing this. Or are you unable to actually scum hunt?In post 457, Sergtacos wrote:sorry, been sick, will try to catch up tomorrow, saturday and sunday.FYI: Activity on weekends are usually minimal
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