Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[Sergtacos]

i didnt catch up. i wanted to but damn man yall made it so hard for me to do so, so i got lazy.

[Sergtacos]

VOTE: Monkey

[Katyusha]

VOTE: Monkey

Why him?

What do you think of Hopkirk and Seph?

[Sergtacos]

VOTE: Monkey

Why him?

What do you think of Hopkirk and Seph?

He took my banana.

On a serious note, im just RVSing. I dont really know anything abou Hopkirk and Seph or whoever because I didn't catch up.

[sheepsaysmeep]

yo the person i tried to sort overnight was buj wtf

[Katyusha]

Please don’t rvs?

You should probably iso people or something? At least see for yourself why people are being voted

For clarification moz was a Mafia kill and intern vigged Bu - why do you think scum picked moz?

pedit: same lol I even made an “i’m townread blujabber meme”

[sheepsaysmeep]

yeah iso ppl good
probably look at hop bc he's a wagon of interest and seph bc i cant read him i guess

[Katyusha]

my issue rn is that i’m basically townreading everyone but hop for some reason or another

everything seems to point to him being scum so like I at least want to drive that wagon but there’s a blindspot somewhere and I need help trying to figure it out

[Katyusha]

Updated scumpool: Moz/Kat/Bu/Serg/Intern/UC

like I can’t look at this and think that he’s pushing on scum here ever

moz Bu intern and uc have all flipped town, I know i’m town, and i’m skeptical of a team that doesn’t at least tell serg what’s happening since rn he’s playing like lynchbait

maybe serg is getting bussed idfk but the way he handled the UCV wagon felt like he knew it was a ml

he long crossed the “he’s wrong town” horizon - his turn on me was really strangely timed and I don’t think town has that thought process ever

[Katyusha]

if i’m wrong i’m wrong but can the people who thought/think he’s town tell me why?

[Katyusha]

BuJaber

(3): Sergtacos, Flubbernugget, Hopkirk

DoYouKnowDeWay

(7): Not_Mafia,

Internecine

,

mozamis

, Katyusha, Sephiroth, humaneatingmonkey, sheepsaysmeep
Hopkirk (1):

BuJaber

humaneatingmonkey (1):

DoYouKnowDeWay

Not Voting (1): Rem

actually i guess the only real "off-wagon" kill they could really make is flubber and there's doubt around him

rem had intent, serg and hopkirk are terrible shots in any universe

im also starting to regret not pushing a serg shot :/

for the record a real vca is kind of pointless rn - i mostly did this to demonstrate why scum killing on the wagon makes it more likely they're off but honestly with the way it is it probably isnt indicative of anything

moz is still who i expected to die if not me though and he makes a lot of sense. hopkirk is still the right play today

[Not_Mafia]

Intern is alive

[Katyusha]

so?

odd night vig/even night vig and a bujaber shot makes complete sense

if he's a sk he's still uninformed and i also refuse to believe that nsg considers putting an odd-night modifier on a serial killer OR that sk!Intern just happens to bs the right modifier to look correct in the setup

he's town. occam's razor this pls

[Not_Mafia]

Updated scumpool: Moz/Kat/Bu/Serg/Intern/UC

like I can’t look at this and think that he’s pushing on scum here ever

moz Bu

intern

and uc have all

flipped town,

I know i’m town, and i’m skeptical of a team that doesn’t at least tell serg what’s happening since rn he’s playing like lynchbait

maybe serg is getting bussed idfk but the way he handled the UCV wagon felt like he knew it was a ml

he long crossed the “he’s wrong town” horizon - his turn on me was really strangely timed and I don’t think town has that thought process ever

I meant this

[Katyusha]

same difference - he's not groupscum ever and he's almost definitely not a serial killer

[Katyusha]

why nitpick when the point is clear

[Not_Mafia]

I agree he's town, I just thought you'd misread the flips

[Katyusha]

gotcha

why seph over hopkirk?

[Not_Mafia]

I could vote either, he was just the first name to jump out at me when I looked at the alive list

[Katyusha]

honestly i dont have much of a reason to scumread him besides "probably the most likely scum on ucv" though

which is troubling. i think most people do hard resets here but im not ready to put the brain power into it yet

[Katyusha]

before i go off to bed

rem, can you talk to me about what you found town about hop D1 and how you feel now?

[humaneatingmonkey]

no let's do this instead VOTE: Sergtacos

[humaneatingmonkey]

flash this

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm happy with a Hopkirk, Sergtacos, Sephiroth, Rem lynch pool but I haven't made any stoner analysis recently.

[Hopkirk]

I agree Intern is effective conf.town.

VOTE: Hopkirk

on-wagon kill makes it very likely that was a town-motivated lynch

probably one scum on it but let’s start here

Please don’t rvs?

You should probably iso people or something? At least see for yourself why people are being voted

For clarification moz was a Mafia kill and intern vigged Bu - why do you think scum picked moz?

pedit: same lol I even made an “i’m townread blujabber meme”

Scumslip? I don't see how you know who Intern killed last night and who scum killed.
Yesterday, Intern said he would probably kill me/UC or maybe Bu/Moz- with less chance of the later two. Not killing me suggests to me that he didn't like the UC wagon- so didn't shoot me. It's plausible from there he shot Moz- who was on the wagon (also plausible he shot Bu, and it does make more sense for scum to shoot Moz to shade me, but not confirmed either way yet).

my issue rn is that i’m basically townreading everyone but hop for some reason or another

everything seems to point to him being scum so like I at least want to drive that wagon but there’s a blindspot somewhere and I need help trying to figure it out

Updated scumpool: Moz/Kat/Bu/Serg/Intern/UC

like I can’t look at this and think that he’s pushing on scum here ever

moz Bu intern and uc have all flipped town, I know i’m town, and i’m skeptical of a team that doesn’t at least tell serg what’s happening since rn he’s playing like lynchbait

maybe serg is getting bussed idfk but the way he handled the UCV wagon felt like he knew it was a ml

he long crossed the “he’s wrong town” horizon - his turn on me was really strangely timed and I don’t think town has that thought process ever

That is a misrepresentation of my positions. For starters, claiming those were final reads when

I explicitly didn't want the day to end and those were not final reads. I was still sorting 4/6 of those players.

Bu/Moz I had as town the day before. Bu I was pushing to sort, but those reads were clearly fluid.

Moz I had as scum at that point because he was attributing false meta to me. I was working at trying to determine why as of the lynch. I was leaning scum at the time on him because of that, but had not sorted him.

Intern I was unwilling to lynch as the claim seemed plausible. Clearly back to neutral.

UC was neutral/maybe leaning town due to the wagon on him. I said this clearly.

Serg/Kat I didn't like and still dislike.

Being skeptical of a team not telling Serg what happened is stupid too. Scum-Serg coming into the thread with that knowledge would look crazy suspicious. He wouldn't do that unless the team was bad. It wouldn't match his play whatsoever.

VOTE: Serg