Okay so next step is going through confscum's ISO to look at his interactions with scumbuddies.
I am not an expert on sheepscum meta.
However, I did scum with him in a turbo. His MS meta is actually pretty similar if not identical to his MU meta, so I'm
hypocritically
willing to take that one turbo into account.
The assumptions I'm using based solely on that turbo are:
1. He rarely hard busses.
2. When he does bus, it's a sort of "oh I could lynch them". @Firebringer: IIRC, this is how he behaved toward Transcend in that turbo.
3. He will waffle back and forth on his buddies but usually settle on null-town to null-scum. He doesn't hard-defend.
Those assumptions may all be wrong, and if so, FB and I need to talk about that.
I quoted every potentially interesting sheep reference to Hopkirk below. I'm obviously arriving at the conclusion that sheep is scum with Hopkirk, but I have not done this same analysis for Flubber yet. This is the first go:
This gives me the impression you weren't seriously opposed earlier since you backed down- and townread Seph- based purely on a basic explination of what he was doing. 'It's an extension of RVS' is explaining intent, not a good or a bad reaction unless you actually have thoughts on the intent. I don't like the way you changed perspectives here.
i feel like with a sort of wagon growing quickly onto him scum!seph would have panicked
he felt rlly calm
Hopkirk throws shade at sheep, sheep defends. (I have not yet seen Hopkirk's response FTR).
In post 201, sheepsaysmeep wrote:hop's line of thinking is natural and genuine, him and kat are both likely town
Start of a townread on Hop. Lumps him into a potential townbloc with Katy.
if ucv's vote is serious, what do you think of his alignment
also, if the vote was serious, i think he would have said smth about the other two rvs voters?
to 146 i dont think kat is treating it as more than it really is, it's scummy if it's a serious vote and kat seems to think it might be one
i dont think either of you are scum atm
Talking to and working with Hop, throwing softballs. Post tags thing implies no daytalk btw.
In post 253, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i agree that the last hop post in that sequence feels out of place
But now the townread flips because popular consensus is NOT that Hopkirk is town :O
In post 472, sheepsaysmeep wrote:from what ive read, my scumreads are ucv, you [Flubb], bu, hop which might change when i read what happened overnight
And now Hop is suddenly in sheep's lynchpool??? Keep in mind
this list is all flipped town except two
. Scum rarely throw 4 townies into their lynchpool, and sheepscum was no different from what I saw. Granted the pool has Flubb in there too. The point is that Flubb vs Hop is not TvT, at least one MUST be scum. (and unfortunately, someone on my wagon is town)
In post 497, humaneatingmonkey wrote:It's Flubb and Hopkirk, but Hopkirk-Buj does not make sense. So it could be sheep, as the third partner. Quote this in end game.
sheep isnt the third partner, do you still want this quoted
flubb im fine with, hop im sort of fine with, buj im fine with
how does hop/buj not work
Now he's trying to argue possible pairings with Hop into existence. This is blatantly protecting himself against Hopkirk's scumflip. Hop flips scum, sheep's set up to lynch Flubb and Buj. This also counts as evidence AGAINST Flubb.
Hopkirk
think i have done this as scum, he's nervous , doubting himself, thinking "shit, i should have for bub, but ididnt, shit!"
town may not bother voting here.
i mean i see scum do this just as much as i see town do
town also just like to be on the player theyre sr'ing too?
Now nullifying scumtells against Hop. Waffle waffle. Will see if he does this toward Flubb.
In post 1127, sheepsaysmeep wrote:hop defending against the ucv lynch really does feel unnatural
am i the only one that scumleans seph
So much later, he throws random shade at Hop but does nothing about it.
Doesn't even state a scumread
. As before, it's all light "Oh I could lynch this" crap.
In post 1133, Hopkirk wrote:What's unnatural about 'lets vote scumreads instead of inactives'
like
you dont have a read on ucv
but you seem strongly against his lynch
when we did provide our reasons
it just feels forced
Softball back-down response. sheep doesn't REALLY want to push Hop or make people suspect him.
In post 1286, sheepsaysmeep wrote:dont fucking hammer yet
we can wait for ucv's replacement, but if he just prod dodges hammer away imo
literally hop and serg are like the vig candidates and none of them have been able to drop any thoughts for like at least five pages
"Don't hammer yet" is a nulltell for sheep, good to know.
Anyway LOOK AT HIS REASONING: "Don't hammer yet, we need Hop/Serg to come back and defend themselves from the vig!" Why does he care so much?
If I'm wrong about Hop (and I might be after reading for Flubber mentions), I'm right about this: There is 100% scum in Hop/Sergslot.
It's Hop/FB, Hop/N_M, or Flubb/FB. I'm inclined toward Hop/N_M.
In post 1585, Hopkirk wrote:I hate Sheep’s comment about Moz having a strong meta read on me. He had no reason to assume that. It felt like a way to attack me by proxy. Sheep’s tone is inconsistent on me across the game. If mafia killed Moz, and Intern killed Bu, then the kill could make it look like I killed Moz. Sheep only sorting Bu overnight feels convenient when he seemed more uncertain on me. I get a general sense he’s positioning from this, and from the rest of his play.
when someone says they have good meta that's like objective so i assume they wouldnt lie about it
overnight i had time to look through one person and i thought you would be vigged rip
Doesn't look through Hop after lynchpooling him all D1, assumes Hop would be vigged.
But now that Hop is alive and well, sheep's uninterested in him as a lynch candidate? Another softball response that doesn't even try to read Hop.
In post 2030, Hopkirk wrote:Hey Sheep, do you still believe in the wagon, and who do you think is scum on it if anyone?
what wagon is this referring to
Softball interaction.
If anyone's wondering what I mean by that specific associative tell, lemme know, and I'll go fetch some quotes from a newbie LyLo I gamesolved.
Scum likes to work together but not really read each other.
because who seriously wants to even try to read their scumbuddy
Every sheep/Hop interaction is consistent with scumpartnerhood.
Again, this is not smoking gun level, but it's close. Scum and town almost always have SOME interaction that makes no sense between buddies. Gonna go check Flubber now.
And for those asking why I'm not going into Hopkirk's/Flubber's ISO and analysing all mentions of sheep, it's straight up because I think sheep will be much easier to read for associatives, being significantly less experienced with scum.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
Okay here's the Flubber case.
There are a few things that are consistent with sheep/Flubber pair. I pretty much expected that.
But there are a lot of things that make it less likely than Hopkirk.
In post 38, Flubbernugget wrote:Not mafia is my second candidate for scum. They were a lot more careless as town in the last games I've played with them compared to now.
was he more careless before or is he not careless here
he seems pcareless to me
how forced is this read?
Tries to nullify a Flubb read. That leading question heavily implies scum on town attempted manipulation.
In post 44, sheepsaysmeep wrote:it's a wagon growing quickly
you/flubb both hopped on with none of your own reasoning
it's opportunistic
In post 68, Flubbernugget wrote:Sheep's vote on me for a "bad entrance" after calling the votes on my wagon opportunistic is hypocritical and incredibly careless, at the very least.
i called your vote on ucv opportunistic
your enterance was forced and felt faked
how is this hypocrisy?
also, can you respond to 41
A progression of finding a scumread on Flubb, voting, and countering the rebuttal.
I have no evidence that sheep is the player that would bus early or try to be a player to bus early. Throwing a scumpartner out into the spotlight like this just isn't good strategy unless you can reap a lot of towncred out of a flip.
ucv isnt a good wagon rn, agreeing entirely with kat that the "inconsistency" isnt rlly actual inconsistency
seph i liked his reaction to some pressure
inter is nullish
flubber is a wagon im fine with atm
Buddies up to UCV, waffles on townies and expresses contentment with the wagon he started (??? factcheck me).
In post 414, BuJaber wrote:I didn't like how flubb and seph just came in and joined a bandwagon. I thought that was scummy but that odds are no two scum partners would do that.
1) these days this doesnt actually mean scum in those two
2) associations like this dont work, there isnt any actual interaction between the two of them in this case
Nullifies a scumtell on Flubb; you can intuit a progression toward a nullread on Flubb. This is actually a point in sheep/Flubber's favour, in that he is potentially setting up Seph after a Flubb flip.
sometimes i go for a reaction and i dont get anything i think helps so i just dont analyze it
like nm's reaction was literally "im not claiming" and then he disappeared with the wind, i dont think that's a really ai response
im looking through the hem iso to try to check the rest of your points
Notice how much more willing sheep is to put on a show for Flubber. He's scumreading Flubb, but is engaging him on sorting other players on a level deeper than his interaction with Hopkirk.
For whatever reason sheep is uninterested in HEM's lynch altogether. Will check this later.
In post 497, humaneatingmonkey wrote:It's Flubb and Hopkirk, but Hopkirk-Buj does not make sense. So it could be sheep, as the third partner. Quote this in end game.
sheep isnt the third partner, do you still want this quoted
flubb im fine with, hop im sort of fine with, buj im fine with
how does hop/buj not work
More okay with a Flubb wagon than a Hopkirk wagon. But NOTABLY:
He wants to be sold on Flubberscum
. At no point did he ever ask anyone to sell him on Hop; he just continually promised to go read Hop's ISO and sort him himself. But Flubber he's willing to be convinced into this.
In post 524, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i was following his reasoning and seeing where his thoughts were coming from
i didnt see any actual case behind the wagon
i thought it was a bad wagon
kat's reasoning and case is actually really convincing
i agreed with the confidence in the flubb read, the inconsistency in his opinion about the wagon, the meta was lazy, and some weird post in the interaction about ucv
Shit this belongs in the Hopkirk thread whoops
I did this based off Ctrl+F because sheep never uses quotes
Well anyway he wasn't cool with the Hop wagon, thinks katy's case is convincing, yet underwhelmingly stays course on lynching town.
In post 643, BuJaber wrote:I don't know if it's just me or my ego or what, but it also irked me that flubb hasn't mentioned me. Why is he trying to distance himself? I think he wants to drag me down with him after he flips, or let town mislynch me on their own.
how many other people do you think flubb hasnt mentioned yet
Nullification of scumtell on Flubb, point in sheep/Flubb's favour.
No analysis on Flubb from me here, but it's interesting that Hopkirk and FBslot aren't in the townbloc. Inclusion of N_M implies scum there (yeah, call me a hypocrite, my slot's there too).
In post 1361, sheepsaysmeep wrote:im psure flubb is town at this point
rem/kat/nm/moz still all likely town
And he's at the point of totally dropping the Flubber thing. Up to this post, Hopkirk/Flubber had exclusively voted townies (I think). By basic VCA, the two of them are basically equivalent. But he's pocketing one and distancing from the other.
Which one is his buddy?
In post 1409, sheepsaysmeep wrote:how about we wait another five days until flubb has dropped a catchup and we can actually read him going into the night
Wants Flubb to come and catchup, but shows an interest in coming up with a read on Flubb that he never had re: Hopkirk.
No bonus round because sheep doesn't pull that shit with Flubb at all. He has a clear trajectory on Flubb that goes
Interrogation --> Nullscum --> Scum --> Null --> Null-town --> Town
This progression happened as Flubber continually made more of an ass out of himself in the thread by pushing townies. This is an attempted pocket. By the time Flubber was going after Hopkirk, Flubb was a nonviable wagon. Dead wagon. Only voted on by the vigshot cop and Hopkirk.
There's very little doubt in my mind that Hopkirk >>>> Flubber when it comes to sheep's scumpartner.
VCA suggests it, NKA suggests it, basic associative tells suggest it, and sheep meta suggests it.
If anyone needs a super duper tl;dr lemme know. I think I have a pretty solid view of events between the 3 of them now. If I've said anything wrong, factcheck me.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
I've always said that N_M is a bitch to read based solely on himself. Granted, that's in games where I've actually played with N_M from the start or early on. His meta with me in-game is different from his meta without me because I go after him much harder than most players.
In post 38, Flubbernugget wrote:Not mafia is my second candidate for scum. They were a lot more careless as town in the last games I've played with them compared to now.
was he more careless before or is he not careless here
he seems pcareless to me
how forced is this read?
I quoted this already in the Flubbercase but this defends Not_Mafia from early suspicion. Compares N_M with Flubber's opinion of N_M's town meta. Note that this isn't even an accurate assessment; N_M was definitely less careless in the first few pages than I've seen in his towngames.
ucv isnt a good wagon rn, agreeing entirely with kat that the "inconsistency" isnt rlly actual inconsistency
seph i liked his reaction to some pressure
inter is nullish
flubber is a wagon im fine with atm
This is scum/scum deciding on a lynch.
Notice how sheep isn't actually arguing with N_M or trying to debate him substantively (like sheep did with Flubber). He doesn't refer to UCV as town, he refers to UCV as a
bad wagon today
. This is a tactical choice. Also makes it likely scum don't have daytalk.
does anyone else feel like this is done only for the claim
Heyo I'm just gonna throw shade here on a N_M wagon despite not commenting on it earlier
If N_M is town, why does sheep give a rat's ass if N_M is mislynched D1?
In post 308, sheepsaysmeep wrote:do you see why i think there's only scum intention and no town intention there
nm is never today's lynch btw if that was made clear
Oh and now N_M can't be the lynch, but a lurksack UCV can.
See the inconsistency. sheep is totally okay lynching mislynch bait UCV end of D1, but is not okay lynching ML bait N_M.
In post 1361, sheepsaysmeep wrote:im psure flubb is town at this point
rem/kat/nm/moz still all likely town
Wow it's almost like N_M is in that townbloc for no reason at all.
Again, his trajectory on Hopkirk was wild, while his trajectory on Flubber was deliberate and easy to pick out.
ive begun to realize that i just always townread nm regardless of his alignment; i need to look into him later
i dont have time to catch up rn i missed like two weeks of school and there's a shit load of makeup to work on
BONUS BONUS ROUND GUYS. "I need to reevaluate this read later" but doesn't give a shit. His Flubber read is solid! His katy read is solid! But his reads on Hopkirk/N_M are not. He's not reading them.
So far I've only read sheep on N_M, and I haven't yet read N_M or Sergslot on sheep.
However I think it's pretty clear from this that N_M is a more likely scumbuddy than Firebringer. Same exact tells that sheep used on Hopkirk. Drops N_M in a townbloc but doesn't hard-defend him or really question him.
Looking into the Firebringer progression last and then I might look into individual ISOs, dunno yet.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
In post 2749, Not_Mafia wrote:You know when you're about to leave a party and then you don't, then you get trapped in an incredibly long-winded and pointless conversation with another guest and spend the whole time wishing you'd just left when you had the chance. This is that moment.
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
and an opportunistic vote as well!
yeah up for seriph or serg
im psure that was an rvs response to nm pushing for putting ucv at l1
Here he's defending against Serg through nullification of scumtells. Point for sheep/Fire.
In post 472, sheepsaysmeep wrote:from what ive read, my scumreads are ucv, you, bu, hop which might change when i read what happened overnight
i havent payed a whole lot of attention to hem or serg so i might want to look at them later
The "I'll read him later" tell. Point for sheep/Fire.
To be clear, I find towntells a LOT more damning than scumtells. Flubber and Fire interactions both have a lot of things consistent with sheepscum. But they also both have things heavily INconsistent, in ways that sheep's interactions with Hopkirk and N_M just aren't.
...but it was a reaction test. And sheep has to townread him for that or else it seems opportunistic.
The only way they're scumbuddies here is if this was planned out. Daytalk possible but unlikely I think. There was a point somewhere where sheep was like "fuck off with that 'scum have daytalk because opening post'" shit that makes it seem like sheep already knew there was no daytalk.
In post 727, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Especially serg being a bumblebee because he tries to lurk as scum when things are chaotic enough as it is to acoid being read
does he do this as town
he seems not very active in general
In post 1241, sheepsaysmeep wrote:serg's reaction test was more likely town than scum but he's still null imo
Here's where the smoking guns start.
All sheep has to do in the case of Serg/sheep is be like OKAY GUYS SERG IS LOCKTOWN, WHO DOES THAT REACTION TEST AS SCUM? This is easy to defend! But he doesn't. He leaves Serg in the lynchpool. Knowing sheep had scum motivation, this is scum allowing town to still be lynched.
In post 1286, sheepsaysmeep wrote:dont fucking hammer yet
we can wait for ucv's replacement, but if he just prod dodges hammer away imo
literally hop and serg are like the vig candidates and none of them have been able to drop any thoughts for like at least five pages
I used this as evidence for Hopkirk scum. It theoretically also applies to Flubber/Serg scumteam, but this points away from Hopkirk/Firebringer scumteam. sheep openly defending both from being vigged? Nope.
The Flubber tell. sheep seems legitimately interested in sorting Serg and watching what Serg does. He may have dropped the "I'll read this later" tells, but he maintains that interest, while he completely dropped it for Hopkirk/Not_Mafia.
In post 1540, sheepsaysmeep wrote:but like serg just coming in and just placing a random vote and not trying to figure out what else is going on is pretty bad
NAI I think. I got nothing here. Replace-in comes in after this.
In post 1690, sheepsaysmeep wrote:idk what fire's meta is like
what alignment is a fluffy entrance that doesnt try to do anything progressing indicative towards
Throwing shadddde. Unnecessary shade at that, but I'll have to look at Firebringer's entrance.
sheep is treating Fire EXTREMELY similarly to how he treated Flubber.
In post 1753, sheepsaysmeep wrote:fire whawt do you think about seph's omgusy turn on hem
like seph your meta defense about how you wouldnt reread can just be you tryhardding
Engagement of Firebringer in a way that seems interested in influencing Fire's reads. Also completely unlike Hopkirk/N_M.
In post 1879, sheepsaysmeep wrote:kat is there anything else behind your fire townread
other than like he feels like a human or smth
In post 2062, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i'll look back at that wagon later
it was really quick im psure there's scum in there
dont like fire's hop onto it
OH SHIT EVEN MORE SHADE. Now setting up lynches on people who were on a town wagon.
In post 2068, sheepsaysmeep wrote:like fire didnt even seem caught up or in a place where he had opinions on hem or seph and he just votes seph automatically when hem says wagon seph
it doesnt feel right
I haven't read Firebringer's ISO yet but this feels exactly like Firebringer.
sheep's correct move to not get attention on his scumbuddy is just a simple "Eh this seems like Firebringer always does this shit". Not jumping on FB for opportunistic playstyle-related reasons.
The way he interacts with Firebringer's slot is incredibly similar to how he interacts with Flubber.
- He wants to confront and influence townies
- He's interested in engaging them on themselves and their reads
- No softball questions, he just starts calling them out
- He has a very very clear trajectory on both of them, setting both of them up for convincing potential mislynches
I could name more.
Firebringer and Flubber are both town, and are thus my audience, likely along with katy/HEM.
I'm unwilling to read people based on anything that's happened since my entrance and ESPECIALLY not since these cases. It's now in 2 people's interest to remove/discredit me and they're naturally going to tear any case I write on them apart.
I'm thinking of doing a search for sheep's progression on my slot. I actually haven't self-ISO'd at all because I assumed this slot was just a lurksack all game.
IF YOU'RE GONNA READ ANYTHING, READ THIS:
sheep interacts with Hopkirk in the same damn way he interacts with N_M. He slaps reads on them without explanation and is uninterested in actually sorting them. He delivers softball questions and doesn't give a shit about their reads, only about who he can lynch with them.
sheep interacts with Flubbernugget in the same damn way he interacts with Firebringer's slot. He has clear progressions on them that result in trying (and failing) to push mislynches on them. He throws shade at them constantly but also gets confrontational with them and argues with them about their reads.
If anyone wants me to actually go check katy/HEM and still thinks one of them might be scum, I will. But from getting a sense of sheep's ISO in general, I see little to indicate katy-scum and not much to indicate HEM-scum.
So it's either Hopkirk/N_M or Flubber/Firebringer.
Hopkirk/N_M: sheep plays the conservative scumgame. Doesn't push these 2 out into the open unless he has to to join the town's consensus.
Flubber/Firebringer: Mad distancing/busgame, sheep tries to fuck up as many associations as possible by confronting them and throwing shit at them at every opportunity.
From my knowledge of sheep, the scumteam is
sheep/Hopkirk/Not_Mafia
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
For the entire game, most of the game has scumread me and made no attempt to actually lynch me. Not just Sheep.
Kat/HeM have basically the same trajectories on me as Math is saying Sheep did which makes his Sheep/Hopkirk interactions case make no sense.
Flubber/Not_Mafia had unexplained scumreads that they didn't try and push.
Buj/Moz could have voted me but were flipping constantly and died n1. The Moz kill makes no sense unless scum want to make me look bad with it.
Seph and UC- the lynches- were the only ones defending me.
From my perspective, scum have been setting things up to lynch me in a lylo situation all game- systematically removing the people who defend me, light pushing, but avoiding lynching me while not lynching me.
Thinking out loud.
Kat/HeM could have ended the game so shouldn't be.
Fire/NM are basically confirmed town as there's no incentive for them not to attack me today if scum after setting me up.
Sheep is scum.
2 scum withing (Rem, Fluuber, Kat, HeM) with HeM/Kat as not together. Confirms 1-2 scum within Rem/Flubber.
If Flubber town is HeM mafia possible?
Dino's posting today is asking for support from Kat/HeM.
Dino scum makes Flubber scum more likely.
Is Flubber/Kat or Hem/Flubber possible?
Hem/Flubber isn't because they could have hammered Dino.
What about Kat/Flubber? If not Dino is confirmed. Need to check online times.
Townbloccing. Yawn.
He at least gave one reason for throwing Rem in the townlist. No reasons for N_M.
In post 1178, sheepsaysmeep wrote:yeah that multi iso actually makes me rlly sold
like everything inter posts just doesnt feel like it comes with the intention of moving the game forward
i could consider redirecting at this point
also the way rem puts it is obvtown
His interaction with Rem was similar to N_M in that he's townbloccing someone.
I'd argue that it's more similar to Flubber/Fire (on a much much smaller scale) in that he at least confronts Rem once, and gives 2 very basic reasons for his read on Rem, which is more than he gave on Not_Mafia.
You guys can decide on this one. I'm confbiased by knowing I'm town. There's really just not much content here.
My biggest reason that Rem is town actually is that no one actually cared about getting Rem replaced. As scum, it's often better to make sure your scumbuddies get replaced while letting townslots lurk out. This increases scum control of the game.
2 mislynches and 2 missed vigshots implies this game was scum controlled with a town implosion. You don't often see that from lurksack scum paired with uncharismatic sheep. This is a scumteam that didn't bus and let/encouraged town to lynch town. Getting an inkling of the idea that sheep wanted Rem around to mislynch Inter for scum and then set up Rem as a mislynch today. But again, informed by knowing my alignment.
That's what I got. Going to sleep. Don't hammer me before I can talk to katy/HEM.
Edit: oh jeez here's a guy trying to read me based on lylo
sigh this is gonna be a rough game with 2 scum to control while i sleep
cya
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
In post 2957, Hopkirk wrote:From my perspective, scum have been setting things up to lynch me in a lylo situation all game- systematically removing the people who defend me, light pushing, but avoiding lynching me while not lynching me.
So I'm not talking to you, because you and I are fundamentally at odds this LyLo. Feel free to respond or not but I obviously don't blame you for this.
This is not actually something I see scum do very often. Pocketing a mislynchable player and taking them to LyLo is a weird move. The reason you pocket someone is so they lynch town for you. You get rid of people that can't be lynched and who have good reads or solving ability.
It's definitely something I see scum with plans do.
But Hopkirk is implying that a team consisting of sheep and a lurksack slot planned this out to leave him in LyLo so town would go after him.
I'm also seeing him PoE himself out of sensible scumteams, which I often find to be a big LyLo scumtell. Scum finds it harder to defend their narrative the more PoE creeps up on them.
Anyway carry on.
Edit: Hope I'm not wrong on you dude. I obviously didn't even try to convince you it's Flubber/Fire because there's just so much evidence against it. If it is, sheep played much better than I expected him to.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
To be clear, Scum Control doesn't mean Scum Leader. Scum Control just means that scum isn't letting other scum get lynched or seriously suspected.
Scum control was at varying times used by the 3 of you to always be on town wagons throughout the game. Flubber, Inter, Bujaber, Seph, briefly Serg/Fireslot, UCV.
Most of these wagons (from just skimming NSG's ISO) have 2 or more of the scumteam I'm talking about.
Scum allowed town to push through its own mislynches and completely self destruct by making townies the consensus scumreads. It doesn't take scum going out there and walling up cases all the time. It just takes votes, repetition, and encouragement of townies who are on the wrong track. Not_Mafia-scum's entire style is "let town implode". I don't know about yours or very much of sheep's, but sheep's style in the one game isn't often to hardbus or throw suspicion on his buddies.
I can take a look deeper into sheep's meta if anyone wants. He says it's evolved but I don't think bussing tendencies often evolve over time. I'm pretty confident on this already.
Edit: lol N_M
Edit: Doesn't matter. We're both talking to an audience other than each other. Gg either way, sorry I couldn't sub in earlier.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
I WANT TO BE CLEAR TO EVERYONE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A RARE RELEVANT LYLO THING.
If Not_Mafia keeps his vote on me, this confirms everyone other than the 4 voting me as town. Confirms them to me, to be fair, but PoEs the game down nonetheless.
No one should be voting me at this point other than Not_Mafia, who's free to I guess. This will result in a quickhammer if anyone does. Talk to me first.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
