Mini Normal 1988 (Endgame)

[Sephiroth]

With what I have, I would bet on Sephiroth. I don't like his tone or the interaction with Roy, but more importantly, I hate that question to Nero.

You're barking up the wrong tree. Probing peoples stated views is something I do pretty frequently. Asking someone to resolve a discrepancy and a stated view is generally a pretty good way to get a sense of how genuine their beliefs are. He was townreading and I was sheeping him, which he said was dumb. I guess I just disagree the question was focused on me. Maybe from your perspective. From mine it was focused on a perceived discrepancy with what he was saying and what he was doing (which i thought he resolved well enough, in case you were wondering).

[Sephiroth]

discrepancy between a stated view and an action or read*

[Archwing]

feeling early town leans on nero and seph. everyone else is null right now

go on

90 is good imo. I like your "i've seen town do this" =/= 'this is town'. I see that fallacy a lot. General inquisitiveness. pushing a lot of different options.. generally townie. still townie, so I still stand by town lean.

Seph had town vibes. After re-reading iso though, I put seph to null. no more town.

[Archwing]

Best entrance I've seen on MS, Prism. Thanks.

not really liking the buddying here. And from earlier I didn't like your 59

@Prism

Roy is an alt.

They're different. You're a town read. Prism is currently in my scum pool. If you want compare it with my friendly banter with Roy. I like him also but he's in my scum pool too. A lot of this is banking on Lalendra being scum. My first few games on here have taught me to trust my first instincts a lot more.

Start re-evaluating now

because if I get mislynched

you're going to have to do it anyway

LAMIST

[Sephiroth]

I mean, she has a good reason to say that, to be fair. Every game I've been in with Lalendra she's been mislynched D1 or D2.

[Sephiroth]

Seph had town vibes. After re-reading iso though, I put seph to null. no more town.

What changed?

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 1.3

Sephiroth(1) Prism

Prism(0)

BuJaber(3) Archwing, Roy Tagliaferro, Leeoon

TwoInAMillion(1) Nero Cain

Leeoon(1) TheGoldenParadox

Chumba(0)

mozamis(1) Lalendra

Nero Cain(0)

Roy Tagliaferro(0)

Lalendra(2) Luca Blight, BuJaber

Luca Blight(0)

Archwing(0)

TheGoldenParadox(3) mozamis, Sephiroth, TwoInAMillion

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(3):Chumba

With 13 alive it is 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-02-04 05:20:00) or when a lynch is achieved.

[Not Known 15]

The Golden Paradox has been prodded

[Chumba]

Sorry guys. Got unexpectedly busy. Will try to catch up later today or tomorrow

[TheGoldenParadox]

Real friends sheep their friends.

No they don't, I want to see real content from you.

Yeah but stuff needs to get going since the deadline feels like it's gonna be in 2 hours.

VOTE: Bujaber let's see what happens.

Yeah but stuff needs to get going since the deadline feels like it's gonna be in 2 hours.

VOTE: Bujaber let's see what happens.

Going to agree with this.

VOTE: BuJaber

What's the reasoning for agreeing with this post? This seems jokey to me but also this could be scum trying to buddy town and distance scum. Unlikely tho.

that vote is incorrect. The correct vote is

vote:Moz

ah i'm happier with my vote now

OMGUS Come on Moz I want to see real nonjokey content from you.

I'm happy to sheep Nero for the timebeing. I also don't really like the 'i have a plan, but I can't tell you yet' shenanigans from roy. I usually find this type of behavior to be an attempt at virtue signaling (yes I just appropriated that term for mafia use, come at me). Like if he actually wanted genuine reactions or actually had something that needed to be kept in the dark to be effective, he would't be like "HEY GUYS I HAVE A SECRET THING BUT WE NEED TO WAIT".

So those are my top SRs at the moment.

I have a good idea of TIAMs meta and Lalendras meta so I think my read on them will become clear before end of day.

Nero, what do you think of me sheeping you since you think sheeping is dumb?

Meta isn't always dependent. People change.

pressure lurker vote
VOTE: thegoldenparadox

What if he's scum that knows she's town?

That's obviously a possibility.

It's a possibility. However, scum's job is to make "What if's" and such, while town needs to search for the most likely thing. I don't like this. It's not necessarily AI, but for now I'm scumreading Nero.

pressure lurker vote
VOTE: thegoldenparadox

unvote, vote: thegoldenparadox

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

I legit forgot about this game :faceplant:

[Archwing]

Seph had town vibes. After re-reading iso though, I put seph to null. no more town.

What changed?

Just like in this comment, you seem to be pretty self-aware of your presence in the game. I think you came in strong, which I town-leaned initially. But I think that's exactly what you wanted. I think that scum have an easier time establishing a presence early day 1, and if done right, you can benefit from that late game.

Real friends sheep their friends.

No they don't, I want to see real content from you.

no u

[Roy Tagliaferro]

Bujaber what exactly is your suspicion on Lalendra based on? Reads based on a strong scum assumption this early are crap and honestly not worth anything before a flip. Let's keep the teamhunting for when we have a flip (pref. scum)

123 could be lamist but it could also be not so yeah let's not have this be too big of an argument tbh. Even town says stupid crap sometimes.

Reading back moz has one of the bigger postcounts but it's not quite rich in contributions.

VOTE: Moz

[Archwing]

123 could be lamist but it could also be not so yeah let's not have this be too big of an argument tbh. Even town says stupid crap sometimes.

let your scumbuddy defend themselves plz.

[Lalendra]

Best entrance I've seen on MS, Prism. Thanks.

not really liking the buddying here. And from earlier I didn't like your 59

@Prism

Roy is an alt.

They're different. You're a town read. Prism is currently in my scum pool. If you want compare it with my friendly banter with Roy. I like him also but he's in my scum pool too. A lot of this is banking on Lalendra being scum. My first few games on here have taught me to trust my first instincts a lot more.

Start re-evaluating now

because if I get mislynched

you're going to have to do it anyway

LAMIST

Yep, but still true.

[Lalendra]

I mean, she has a good reason to say that, to be fair. Every game I've been in with Lalendra she's been mislynched D1 or D2.

Haha see Seph gets it <3

[Lalendra]

I should have just said "WHEN I get mislynched"

[Lalendra]

123 could be lamist but it could also be not so yeah let's not have this be too big of an argument tbh. Even town says stupid crap sometimes.

let your scumbuddy defend themselves plz.

Seph defended me too, any reason why you felt it necessary to respond to Roy but not to Seph?

[BuJaber]

I'm suspicious of any reads this early on tbh, this still feels like RVS to me.

My suspicion is based on this.
If this is the truth why post it at all?

Like it isn't even clear who's reads she's referring to. Everyone's? If you don't have early reads doesn't mean others can't. I just don't see why it's suspicious. And even more importantly I don't see why town would even say this at all especially in such a vague and general way. It felt like she's dismissing an early read without specifiying which so as to not expose a partner.

[Archwing]

123 could be lamist but it could also be not so yeah let's not have this be too big of an argument tbh. Even town says stupid crap sometimes.

let your scumbuddy defend themselves plz.

Seph defended me too, any reason why you felt it necessary to respond to Roy but not to Seph?

129 was not the same as 136 at all. 129 is kinda lol-meta shit. 136 was like... "hey, shh. sweep it under the rug"

[Sephiroth]

Even town says stupid crap sometimes.

even though this is a pretty reasonable thing to say the context gives me weird vibes. Like kind of an underlying sense of confbias even though its not explicit.

[Lalendra]

123 could be lamist but it could also be not so yeah let's not have this be too big of an argument tbh. Even town says stupid crap sometimes.

let your scumbuddy defend themselves plz.

Seph defended me too, any reason why you felt it necessary to respond to Roy but not to Seph?

129 was not the same as 136 at all. 129 is kinda lol-meta shit. 136 was like... "hey, shh. sweep it under the rug"

I don't really feel like scum would be that obvious. "Yeah I guess it could be a scumtell but let's not talk about it HEY HOW ABOUT THAT SUPERBOWL"

[Lalendra]

I also enjoy that literally no one has pointed out the fact that it could just be a reaction test, or a post to get the game moving, or a prodge, or (what it actually was) my honest assessment that anyone who forms solid reads on page 2 is being a little reachy. It wasn't directed at anyone in general, it was a statement about the game.

[Lalendra]

Like if you think I'm scum, just vote me now and you'll have 6 pages of info and associatives going into day 2. But I guarantee that while I'm not the worst lynch, I'm definitely not the best.

[Roy Tagliaferro]

Wasn't trying to sweep it under the rug as much, but sliphunting is crappy. I don't feel it is a valid argument for a lynch alone. What separates a scumslip from a townie failing to grasp the right words to say something?

[Sephiroth]

Wasn't trying to sweep it under the rug as much, but sliphunting is crappy. I don't feel it is a valid argument for a lynch alone. What separates a scumslip from a townie failing to grasp the right words to say something?

Do you think the fact that it doesn't warrant a lynch on its own means its worth skipping past? Like I get what you're saying but I also don't understand why, given that stance, you would actively attempt to suppress/move away from that line of argument. it seems like it would be something you would monitor and see if it develops, rather than confidently dismissing its relevance to the current discussion.