Mini Normal 1988 (Endgame)

[StefanB]

Hello Mozamis,

I remember, was a newbiegame I think, Nero and Havingfitz are also players I remember.
No not scum, currently on page 6, have 1 and a halfscumreads but just learned that the one I am more sure teends to get lynched on day 1 or 2, so take this with a grean of salt. BuJaber was the halfscumread.

Am I scum? Mozamis the answer is as always no, has been right in most of my games. (And is right in this one)

[havingfitz]

VOTE: Archwing

Reasons later

Could you give your reasons?

Has your read on Roy changed from D1?

Also...you're

due a prod again.

Why not replace out if you aren't going to contribute?

[Mulch]

Fits who are you scumreading and why?

[StefanB]

Okay have read trough not really a feeling for the game, but I have read it.

A few bizare things on day 2:

Nero: Why do you focus on on/off the waggon? It seems to me that the question who is scumy is more important than let's lynch from group a or group b on a theory that is more of a coinflip.
Nero is giving me weird wipes. I don't like his play this game, but it doesn't look like scumplay. Perhaps he can fake it, but at the moment I lean towards town that I don't like the play of.

I thought I had somethink a moment, when I saw a push on my precessor because of "tactical" replacement, after the attack has going down, (okay Mulch was kind of trying to start it again) but than I realised that it came from Mulch a new replacement who wanted to push the Prismwaggon.

On the current waggons:

I don't see the mozamiswaggon at all and don't like the Archwingwaggon based on who is on it.

[havingfitz]

I don't see the mozamiswaggon at all and don't like the Archwingwaggon based on who is on it.

^ ditto

[havingfitz]

Fits who are you scumreading and why?

Not a lot off weekend v/la to expand on from this: #592

[BuJaber]

Feels good to be right. Prism was in fact scum.

Stefan defending the scum being bussed, and therefore indirectly bussing the scum on his wagon who are much more likely to be lynched now. (Leoon/Roy are popular wagons arch not so much).

Stefan(Prism), Arch, Roy/Leoon

[StefanB]

By the way:
VOTE: Sephiroth

there is nearly zero original content in that ISO and there are 42 posts. I checked it, because I knew that Sephiroth was in the game but don't remember much that he posted. He voted TIAM, leeoon, thegoldenparadox, TIAM today moz, nearly always following a safe waggon, seemingly active in the game but not doing much.

Preedit: BuJaber in a extrapost.

[StefanB]

BuJaber:

Stefan defending the scum being bussed, and therefore indirectly bussing the scum on his wagon who are much more likely to be lynched now. (Leoon/Roy are popular wagons arch not so much).

I knew since English isn't my first language, so that is a bit mean from me, but I don't understand this post.

What scum am I defending? From your readinglist, Archangel. How is pointing out that the persons on the voting list:
You, Leeoon and Roy
not making me liking the waggon is defending Archangel?

And the Archangelwaggon has 3 votes on it.
Mozamis and Roy have 2
and Leeoon and now Sephiroth have one.

How is the biggest waggon not popular?

[StefanB]

Small correction:
I missed that BuJaber switched his vote from Archangel to Roy, so the Roywaggon has 3 votes now and the Archangelwagoon has 2 votes.
Was between the last votecount and me joining the game.

[Not Known 15]

Leeoon is being replaced.
Lalendra has been prodded.

[Lalendra]

I don't know why but I can't get into this game and nothing is really pinging me. I guess for now I'm okay with VOTE: Roy unless something makes me feel differently. I don't necessarily agree that Prism is scum just because of the replace-out, I kind of like what I'm seeing from Stefan. Same with Fitz, though I always have trouble sorting him. Seph's sudden lack of content bothers me.

[havingfitz]

^ if no one's pinging you why vote Roy? Did he ping you? What are your current reads on Arch and moz?

[Nero Cain]

Why do you focus on on/off the waggon? It seems to me that the question who is scumy is more important than let's lynch from group a or group b on a theory that is more of a coinflip.

I didn't do that? What I

DID

do is ask Moz why he wanted to lynch on the wagon with a 20% chance and a 50% to lynch off wagon. I asked him this b/c at one point he had said he felt like there was one scum on the wagon. He has since retracted said statement. So did you just misread or are you scum misrepping the events in this game? Now knowing this was Moz and not me how does it change your reads, if at all.

[Archwing]

hi.. checking in. Why is the wagon shifting to roy right now? Who said they didn't like the moz wagon? why?
i've played 1 or 2 games with moz and watched/read a few others... he's his usual spammy hyperposting self, but gut vibes do not scream town!moz here.

[Archwing]

also yeah that was kinda scummy of lalendra just now

[Archwing]

Feels good to be right. Prism was in fact scum.

Stefan defending the scum being bussed, and therefore indirectly bussing the scum on his wagon who are much more likely to be lynched now. (Leoon/Roy are popular wagons arch not so much).

Stefan(Prism), Arch, Roy/Leoon

justify why prism was scum?

[StefanB]

Archwing:

Who said they didn't like the moz wagon? why?
i've played 1 or 2 games with moz and watched/read a few others... he's his usual spammy hyperposting self, but gut vibes do not scream town!moz here.

That would be me. Don't see Mozscum in this game. It is difficult to argue with gut though.

Nero:
Okay, that makes more sense. Well I did remember it wrong. You wanting to lynch in the group that was townreading the mislynch.(Post 408), then Moz come of with their is probably only 1 scum on the waggon and than you questioned Moz.

Changing reads:
Moz was a townread, didn't chance that much. Yeah that was strange and imho not logical, but doesn't come of at making her more scum.

You read:
Well, your read was makes more sense as town, but probably good enough to fake stuff that makes no sense as scum. (Would perhaps be to complicated, but I have seen scum beeing that clever)
That was pretty independent from what the hell is happening with the one/off waggon.
I said that I disliked your play that game, but I though it was clear that I lean towards town towards you.
(And why should that chance?)

[StefanB]

Last paragraph is about my read on Nero to be clear.

[Lalendra]

^ if no one's pinging you why vote Roy? Did he ping you? What are your current reads on Arch and moz?

Because people that I trust to be town are voting him and in the absence of any strong reads of my own, I will sheep people I believe to be town.

[Mulch]

hi.. checking in. Why is the wagon shifting to roy right now? Who said they didn't like the moz wagon? why?
i've played 1 or 2 games with moz and watched/read a few others... he's his usual spammy hyperposting self, but gut vibes do not scream town!moz here.

Hmm

Interesting

Towny read

Not sure if accurate

[mozamis]

hi.. checking in. Why is the wagon shifting to roy right now? Who said they didn't like the moz wagon? why?
i've played 1 or 2 games with moz and watched/read a few others... he's his usual spammy hyperposting self, but gut vibes do not scream town!moz here.

and yet i've caught a lot of scum, so maybe stfu?

[mozamis]

oh yea including you recently, which explains your animosity lol delayed OMGUS vote much? lol

[StefanB]

Archwing, Moz: Don't let that get in a personal battle, okay.

Moz: Your reaction is strange. While

spammy hyperposting self

is not a compliment, your reaction is over the top.
The question if you catch scum normally is irelevant for the question if you are scum, you haven't got scum lynched in this game yet.
The delayed OMGUS. Is that really a thing? I have not seen it.
What is your read on Archwing? Haven't really found anythink in your ISO, that was conclusive. I searched for Arch and did read from day 2 forward.

[BuJaber]

BuJaber:

Stefan defending the scum being bussed, and therefore indirectly bussing the scum on his wagon who are much more likely to be lynched now. (Leoon/Roy are popular wagons arch not so much).

I knew since English isn't my first language, so that is a bit mean from me, but I don't understand this post.

What scum am I defending? From your readinglist, Archangel. How is pointing out that the persons on the voting list:
You, Leeoon and Roy
not making me liking the waggon is defending Archangel?

And the Archangelwaggon has 3 votes on it.
Mozamis and Roy have 2
and Leeoon and now Sephiroth have one.

How is the biggest waggon not popular?

By saying you don't like the wagon against arch you are implying that you don't want to lynch Arch. If you don't want to lynch then it implies you think he's town. That is defending Arch. Or at the very least it is slowing down his wagon.

Feels good to be right. Prism was in fact scum.

Stefan defending the scum being bussed, and therefore indirectly bussing the scum on his wagon who are much more likely to be lynched now. (Leoon/Roy are popular wagons arch not so much).

Stefan(Prism), Arch, Roy/Leoon

justify why prism was scum?

I had this whole theory why prism is scum based on gut, his initial posts, and his early reactions to Roy/Leoon.
I had since moved off because other people stood out as scummier and because I also liked some of his posts after my accusation so he was down to a nullread for me. Stefan now is making me think I was right all along. But again we shall see.

What I am sure of today is that I want one of these 4 lynched and nobody else at the moment:
Roy, Leoon, Arch, Stefan.