Mini Normal 1988 (Endgame)

[Archwing]

hi.. checking in. Why is the wagon shifting to roy right now? Who said they didn't like the moz wagon? why?
i've played 1 or 2 games with moz and watched/read a few others... he's his usual spammy hyperposting self, but gut vibes do not scream town!moz here.

and yet i've caught a lot of scum, so maybe stfu?

oh yea including you recently, which explains your animosity lol delayed OMGUS vote much? lol

Please, don't get high off yourself here. I've never said you haven't caught scum before. I'm saying your tone is not the town!moz I've seen. Your reaction is kind of enlightening... You just got EXTREMELY defensive there. Why? Don't want to be the first lynched scum?

I'll respond to others this afternoon, getting ready for school.

[StefanB]

Okay, I have a tendency to want to lynch a certain kind of player. Unfortunatly the tend to flip town. BuJaber reminds me of those lynches in the past, so please someone stop me if I am going in this direction.

BuJaber: To be crystal clear. I don't trust you. I don't trust Leeoon or Roy. That is the whole Archwingwaggon.
Now for you, the fact that in your perspective the wagon is.
Scumread 3: You, Scumread 1, Scumread 2 (Numbers from the order in BuJabers list)
That didn't give you a moment to think about it? If someone hasn't got a townread on you (for example me), that waggon looks bad.
Hell, from your perspective that should look bad.
You haven't convinced anyone you don't read as scum, that Archwing deserves rope.
Actually after reading your ISO: Why exactly do you think Archwing is scum?

[Lalendra]

Your reaction is kind of enlightening... You just got EXTREMELY defensive there.

Agreed, I was leaning town!moz but that was a really over-the-top reaction.

[Roy Tagliaferro]

Not quite seeing prism scum, feel free to elaborate. Don't see anything really painting him scum.

game is demonstrably different from my scumgame he's seen and noticeably similar to my towngame.

No fan of this however as I don't think meta arguments are any good. At least not enough to cause a lynch.

Yes let's see if arch busses him back lol.

VOTE: Roy

Encouraged by Moz but bad sheeping vote. Bu has been good for the rest of the day. Lal vote on me later could do with explanation as well.

By the way:
VOTE: Sephiroth

there is nearly zero original content in that ISO and there are 42 posts. I checked it, because I knew that Sephiroth was in the game but don't remember much that he posted. He voted TIAM, leeoon, thegoldenparadox, TIAM today moz, nearly always following a safe waggon, seemingly active in the game but not doing much.

Preedit: BuJaber in a extrapost.

No me gusta. Aside from the 3 day silence now I think Seph has decent enough posts.

Because people that I trust to be town are voting him and in the absence of any strong reads of my own, I will sheep people I believe to be town.

What? Being town != having correct reads. At all.

and yet i've caught a lot of scum, so maybe stfu?

Sure, but that's in other games, and those games are entirely apart from this one, as you may be scum here, we don't know. Weak argument. Results from the past don't guarantee successes.

I want to lynch in Arch, Leeoon, Maybe moz very maybe Lalendra.

[Not Known 15]

Christopher replaces Leeooon

[StefanB]

Hello Christopher.

[Christopher]

Hey all.

Allow me a bit of time to catch up.

[StefanB]

@Mod:
Can we get a votecount? When a new player joins it is easier when the VC is new.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 2.6

Sephiroth(1) StefanB

StefanB(0)

BuJaber(0)

Christopher(1) havingfitz

havingfitz(0)

mozamis(2) Nero Cain, Archwing

Nero Cain(0)

Roy Tagliaferro(4) mozamis, mulch, BuJaber, Lalendra

Lalendra(0)

Archwing(2) Christopher, Roy Tagliaferro

Mulch(0)

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(2):Sephiroth,

With 11 alive it is 6 to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-02-16 17:46:00) or when a lynch is achieved.

[mozamis]

Archwing, Moz: Don't let that get in a personal battle, okay.

Moz: Your reaction is strange. While

spammy hyperposting self

is not a compliment, your reaction is over the top.
The question if you catch scum normally is irelevant for the question if you are scum, you haven't got scum lynched in this game yet.
The delayed OMGUS. Is that really a thing? I have not seen it.
What is your read on Archwing? Haven't really found anythink in your ISO, that was conclusive. I searched for Arch and did read from day 2 forward.

archwing is town.
maybe i over reacted i was i tired. He calle dme spammy, what does he expect. I nailed him as scum last game so that probably explains it lol
but yeah, he is prob town.

[StefanB]

@Mod:
Lalendra voted Roy in Post 686

Fixed.

[Nero Cain]

ok so p.o.e town reads:
Moz,BUj, Prism, Arch, Seph, Nero, Roy, Llandra

so 3 scum in:

Luca

,Two,Leon, Chumba and Golden
easy

is the one that I remembered.

i guess my point is, IGMEOY: Two, Leon and Golden.
we should focus on those guys.

this is your last from d1 so I guess I'm wrong but my Q here is why did you feel the need to change your reads with only one wrong read in TIAM?

Okay this is a good point but you should have started with this. It looks weaker now like you just noticed it.
Changing reads itself isn't scummy but making someone explain why reveals intentions or sets them up for a slip. You scumread him first and are asking him why later. That's just the wrong approach as town imo.

I don't feel like calling you scum and commenting on very lackluster (IMO) scum hunting. You also keep ignoring the elephant in the room. In our last game when you did this light "suspicion" of me you flipped scum.

Is the first sentence complete here? I don't know what it's supposed to mean.

I kinda feel like this is a link between Moz and Bu. Bu had absolutely no reason to get in the middle of my questioning of Moz here.

[BuJaber]

Stefan.. I believe only one scum between Roy/Leoon. That has been my theory since the start.

So I didn't care that 2 of them joined the wagon. A little strange but since that is only 1 other person with me on the wagon I know that there is another scum somewhere. The fact that it is stopping in its track actually makes me more sure arch is scum. But unfortunately that lynch wasn't happening.


Nero are you still not convinced you and moz is TvT?

[Nero Cain]

no, this is scum Moz

[Christopher]

@BU: you’re all over the place with your scum reads.

You’re absolutely convinced that prism “was” scum (#681) but you don’t vote for Stefan, Prism’s replacement. Instead, you vote Roy. Why not stick with your apparent super-confident read?

[Christopher]

UNVOTE:

Where’s the wagon coming from on Roy? I saw the question addressed, but don’t think I’ve seen a thorough answer.

[Lalendra]

@BU: you’re all over the place with your scum reads.

You’re absolutely convinced that prism “was” scum (#681) but you don’t vote for Stefan, Prism’s replacement. Instead, you vote Roy. Why not stick with your apparent super-confident read?

I think it's possible to get really strong reads on someone and then equally strong conflicting reads on their replacement. But I'm also interested in the answer here because it does seem odd.

[Mulch]

no, this is scum Moz

This seems townvscum

[Nero Cain]

k, who is scum and who is town?

[Nero Cain]

Daily reminder that moz/mulch and bujaber are the scumteam.

[BuJaber]

Yeah but my super strong read was

A) a strong read that one scum is among prism/lalendra not really specific to prism, but I've been liking lalendra as town more over time.
B) it was in day 1.

I have not had that strong a read on prism since and if you really think that then you are either skimming or bsing.

ALSO I've wanted to vote for roy for so long now it really isn't weird to switch to my backup wagon.

Nero we'll just agree to disagree.

[BuJaber]

As for my read on stefan it isn't conflicting. I'm scumreading him but it is a strange read based on him not voting for arch so it depends on him being scum with both arch and roy/leoon. That is too many conditionals for me to want to vote there.

[BuJaber]

@BU: you’re all over the place with your scum reads.

You’re absolutely convinced that prism “was” scum (#681) but you don’t vote for Stefan, Prism’s replacement. Instead, you vote Roy. Why not stick with your apparent super-confident read?

I think it's possible to get really strong reads on someone and then equally strong conflicting reads on their replacement. But I'm also interested in the answer here because it does seem odd.

Do you have any opinions you want to share or push? General posts like these help nobody. You're neither accusing me nor defending me with this so what has anybody gained?

[BuJaber]

Nero since mulch is only slot we both wouldn't mind lynching you want to vote there?
Or will you townread him based on that?

I genuinely want to know. Like by your own logic me scumreading paradox earlier should clear paradox slot.

[Nero Cain]

TBF, bussing, and distancing are a thing so it doesn't necessarily clear you 100% but sure

vote:mulch