Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Momrangal]

Mom if I flip town who would you scumread?

Still trying to figure that one out

[Gamma Emerald]

Votecount 1.17

(1) Momrangal: BuJaber
(1) Beefster: Almost50
(2) BuJaber: Momrangal, InfernoBrafin
(1) Not_Mafia: TheGoldenParadox
(3) Mathdino: Not_Mafia, Carrot and Stick, Beefster
(2) Carrot and Stick: the worst, acryon
(2) TheGoldenParadox: Mathdino, Iconeum

(1) Not voting: Kthxbye

(expired on 2018-03-07 11:30:00)
TheGoldenParadox is V/LA until Tuesday February 27th

[Mathdino]

I can't wait for mastina to come back and post walls about how she's not this scummy as scum

Or doesn't push the most widely townread players as scum

Or how if she were scum people wouldn't be voting her at all

It's gonna be fun to watch

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

But this still avoids my main point, Mathdino. I am finding your play anti-town not because you called us scummy or you scumread us. I find your play anti-town because you seem to have a mentality that only you can do the above mentioned. You don't have to explain when you think other's reads or playstyles are bad, but

@Those of you scumreading me for having shit reads:

Then correct my reads.

You excpect us to do the same for you? When you call Inferno scummy, it doesn't mean scum-indicative, but even though I have agreed with the way you use scummy, when I use scummy to describe your posts, it does? These things make no sense from

any

standpoint, town or scum.

But you keep saying that I don't agree or understand your use of the word scummy and that's why I'm misinterpreting you, which is simply not true. You evasion of the real reasons for my concern now has me thinking you are scum.

Also,

I'm either going to get sorted by the NK, or left alive if scum has me pocketed. And even then, I'm likely to get sorted by the NK at some point this game.

is not true. There is a third possibility in this senario, the possibilty that you are scum. By ignoring a third (and very real) possibily, you commit, I believe, False Dilemma, and also remove suspicion of scum-association from yourself.

[Momrangal]

IB you need to take many steps away from Dino and stop arguing something that's just bogging down this game thread. An argument of semantics is not going to get us anywhere and there are 11 other players to look at in this game.

[InfernoBrafin]

Mom if I flip town who would you scumread?

Still trying to figure that one out

Brafin:

Same. It strikes me as a very odd question and phrase. Could it be possible (and this is unlikely, but bear with) that Bu is a Godfather, and thinks you are a cop?

[Mathdino]

Brafin you're failing to understand about 4 different things about my posts. Go talk to Inferno about it. I'm back to being done with this conversation.

[Momrangal]

Please just stop

Both you and Dino should just not... Interact or even think of the other person for a few days


Pedit: no that has not come to my mind at all

[InfernoBrafin]

IB you need to take many steps away from Dino and stop arguing something that's just bogging down this game thread. An argument of semantics is not going to get us anywhere and there are 11 other players to look at in this game.

Brafin:

A) That's why there are two of us.
B) I'm no longer arguing about the semantics of his playstyle. That I understand -- in fact, I use scummy in the same way (unlike 'Ferno). It's the fact that he seems to think that HE can do things that no other player can that has me rather concerned.

[Mathdino]

That was my intent

Then about 80% of his posts were about how he's tunneling me for ignoring him

[Mathdino]

Jesus fuck dude

I explain my scumreads and ask others to do the same because THAT'S GAME RELEVANT

I don't explain general scumminess because I'm not your IC and it's not my job to coach you in how to be more charismatic

If my reads are wrong, I expect people to tell me why

So what the everliving fuck is hypocritical here

And furthermore

SINCE WHEN IS ANY OF THAT A SCUMTELL

[Momrangal]

And that question is not odd at all, its pretty much one that's meant to keep a tunneler from continuing their tunnel

Pedit: ok you're entitled to your opinions but they are all opinions. They are all assumptions. Right now its not going to do anything productive and even if dino was pompous enough to think that arguing it isn't going to do any good on revealing his true alignment

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

See, this is exactly what I mean. I point out that you are inconsistent, and you feel no need to discuss it with me, you just blow it off. But I HAVE discussed this with Inferno, and he agrees with me; your play is scummy/anti-town not because of how you use the word scummy, but because of a lack of consistency in your posts.

[Mathdino]

Considering I filled up 4 pages with your goddamn slot arguing over a single goddamn word

I can generally understand that your slot uses "scummy" to mean scum indicative

I'm not here to go around assuming everyone uses words the same way I do

Clearly if your intent is to use scummy to imply a scumread, I'm going to treat it as such until corrected

Because get this

My intent is to actually understand people instead of ARGUING FOR 20 PAGES

[Momrangal]

THERE IS NO REASON FOR HIM TO EVER NEED TO THINK THAY

PLEASE JUST STOP

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

Did I say hypocritical? No. Your posts are

inconsistent.

That's not the same thing, and you know it as well as I do.

p-edit: Don't forget there's two of us. It's possible that as a hydra, each one of us interprets the game a little differently.

[Mathdino]

Lack of consistency isn't a scumtell, and never has been a scumtell

But by constantly accusing me of being inconsistent, you're more attacking my pride than my alignment at this point because I prefer to be right/logical as either alignment

How is doing this in any way helpful

[Mathdino]

Did I say hypocritical? No. Your posts are inconsistent.
That's not the same thing, and you know it as well as I do.

I'm inconsistent because I read the same word differently when it's said by a different person?

That's literally fucking social intelligence which you seem to have no concept of at this point

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

I want to change our vote so bad, but I have been letting 'Ferno do the voting for simplicity's sake. Inferno, can we do that?
(And yes, Math, NOW I scumread you.)

[Momrangal]

Both heads.

Leave dino alone. He is rubbing you the wrong way and for things that are not alignment indicative.

Move on to something else


BRAFUN

[Momrangal]

IF DINO FLIPPED TOWN WHO WOULD BE SCUM

[Mathdino]

I don't give a shit if you scumread me, I just want you to stop reeling me into more bullshit 1v1s when literally everyone can see you're wrong

If you're gonna be in thread, do something useful

I'm not even pushing IB and I haven't resolidified my reads yet
Reads list coming in probably a day or two

[InfernoBrafin]

Brafin:

I'd also like to point out that nowhere have I felt the need to use offensive or degrading language in any part of my posts. I find your defense neither irritating nor aggravating, and I'm sorry that you find my reads as such.

[Momrangal]

MY BABYS SLEEP AND I AM WASTING PRECIOUS TIME TRYING TO MEDIATE THIS.

PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME BECOME LIKE RACHMARIE I DONT WANNA ACTUALLY BECOME MAFIAMOM

Hey you took the name lol

[InfernoBrafin]

With town!dino? Beef/Bu/??? (Still not sure. Need to Iso them, which I'll do this afternoon.)