Open 714: Tit for Tat [Game Over]

[TheGoldenParadox]

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My reads more often than not suck.
*cough*Greatest Idea Mafia*cough*
and then I realise that North is the only frickin' scum

[Mathdino]

A) What's a writeup in this context?
B) I believe having faith in my reads is one of the most stupid things you could do as town. I'd say that sentence in itself was scummy

I haven't read your other games. I skimmed Geriatric White Flag, where you got mislynched (congrats). My interpretation is that you get yourself so caught up in your interactions with other players that they just end up turning on you.

My experience with you is fine. We've agreed on a lot both times we were ingame together, and I'd argue you were the only townie in Marked For Death that wasn't in some way hyper-responsible for that loss.

Write-up just means a reads list. Need to see your big picture thought process to sort you anyway.

And like, obviously there are definitely a few players here whose reads I would have more faith in, but every bit helps.

[Almost50]

Yeah, to clarify as to not have any hidden intent: Almost loves to say he can read my crumbs despite making many mistakes in reads about me as town AND scum from said "crumbs", which are usually passing comments I make as a joke and potential lifeline for later. Inside joke taunt thing with random letters and numbers I thought of on the spot.

LIAR! You were clearly informing me the client on

Level 9

was

Shah Rukh Khan

!!!

[Mathdino]

Oh shit guys, my day-1-winning reads come in only a few hours!

Get your posts in before I read you wrong! Go go go!

Spoiler: @Almost50

Professor Plum, in the conservatory, with the candlestick.

[JaydragonKing]

Dangit Dino if I can't use spoiler tags like that, neither can you.

[Mathdino]

Had nothing to do with the spoiler tag, had to do with the encrypted text, lol. I'm parodying 327.

Where's my good pal NSG?

[RedFlavor]

Spoiler: @Almost50

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Spoiler: @MathDino

Why do you want to blink all chickens in the volcano?

[JaydragonKing]

Oh now the Mod's getting in on the action. I'm feeling bullied now. Bah.



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Please don't.

[Almost50]

@RedFlavor:

Spoiler:

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[Mathdino]

A50 give me something on topic so I don't fuck up my incoming read on you and erroneously call for you to be vigged

[Almost50]

A50 give me something on topic so I don't fuck up my incoming read on you and erroneously call for you to be vigged

*Sigh* I already did, you boob!!

And I'm waiting for the rest of the crew to weigh in before I elaborate. The day is young, so give the mutant creature from the north side a chance to examine the evidence at hand.

[Mathdino]

It's okay I already know their alignments

[Almost50]

All 3 of them?

[Mathdino]

I feel pretty alone. Well, here goes. From the coldest takes to the hottest takes.

pintu is town.

Big surprise, woop woop. If he's not town, he's gonna slip up at some point later on. The awkward non-native-speaker thing reminds me of town UnaBombaH tbh.

jmo is extremely town.

I at no point actually thought he was scum. More on this later.

Gamma feels town.

I guess.

A50 is actually town.

I don't claim to understand why he does shit all the time but I do claim a reasonable ability to read him (until I'm proven wrong). Could be worth a rolecopping when we pick that PR up. He's also transparently trying to dodge the NK, which indicates basically jackshit about his role.

Ooh we're getting into the hotter takes.

Creature is scum.

But did you really need me to tell you that? This is hilariously transparently scum Creature. We're not speedlynching him, but if he's not today's lynch, he should be tonight's vig.

Luca is probably actually just town.

I got caught up in my 1v1, and I guess I could come back and revisit this but there have been enough good points about Luca-town that I'm willing to just write him off as a tunnely/predatory/aggressive player and move on.

There's likely scum between {Aneninen, mutant}.

Call it gut mixed with PoE. This isn't a strong read. Aneninen is good at scum, and I think there's a fair chance he's pushing scum agenda. mutant feels off.

Paradox and Jay are currently not readable.

Stop trying. Jay dies before LyLo, and Paradox needs to provide more content or he goes straight into the scumpool.

northsidegal is actually scum.

DOUBLY so if Creature turns out to be town through the day. Creature's read was right on point. I'll give NSG a couple chances to explain to me why exactly I think that.
And yes, this is a test, the response may very well affect this read. Please do actually explain why I, personally, Mathdino, am scumreading you. I wanna see if you're seeing the same things.

VOTE: northsidegal

[Mathdino]

VC 1.03

Creature(3):

Aneninen 16, Gamma Emerald 18, jmo16mla 85

Gamma Emerald(1):

pinturicchio 22

jmo16mla(2):

northsidegal 94, TheGoldenParadox 105

Aneninen(2):

JaydragonKing 148, mutantdevle 167

Mathdino(1):

Luca Blight 159

Luca Blight(1):

Mathdino 166

Not Voting:

Almost50, Creature

aight let's do some prime-ass pre-flip VCA

gamma, if scum, is throwing associations off by parking a vote on creature, the most vulnerable scumbuddy
aneninen doesn't really know who creature is (now that i think about it, aneninen's discussions regarding creature ring pretty town so gamma could be the scum on this wagon)
jmo's vote really lucked out in hitting scum, he's town for other reasons

NSG's vote was awful
paradox's vote sheeping it was standard paradox
jay and mutant going for the aneninen wagon after i completely cooled off on pushing it was pretty lame

why did the mod pop into the thread without giving a votecount

brb finding votes myself

[mutantdevle]

I'm not so sure Gamma is town tbh, but I'm not sure if it's just his posting style that's triggering me. But let's be honest, several consecutive posts consisting of a single sentence that contains little to no meaningful content is inherently scummy. It clutters the thread and makes people reluctant to re-read.

Also, @Gamma, can you not use the name abbreviation MD when myself and math are in a game together? kek.


I'm liking Golden's catchup though. I disagree that he is not readable and I presently think he is town.

[RedFlavor]

VC 1.04

Gamma Emerald(1):

Aneninen 261

jmo16mla(3):

northsidegal 94, TheGoldenParadox 105, jmo16mla 262

Aneninen(2):

JaydragonKing 148, Gamma Emerald 309

Mathdino(1):

Luca Blight 159

northsidegal(2):

Creature 193, Mathdino 339

mutantdevle(1):

pinturicchio 264

Not Voting:

Almost50, mutantdevle 185

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day one ends Tuesday, March 13th at 1.20pm UTC or in (expired on 2018-03-13 16:20:00)

Mod Notes: It's hard to give VC's on phone.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, the reason it pinged me is because he didn't take any meaningful stand - it was worthless appeasement to both parties, and awkwardly worded to boot.

Let's note, pin's new

I know I'm propense to make mistakes because of being new, but there's no need to babysit me. Are you townreading me that hard to stand up for me? Why?

Luca didn't seem to understand that, so I was making it clear.

I'm townhunting first; that way I can do a better PoE. But if you pressure me, I'm scumleaning jmo16mla and scumreading Mutant, mostly because of this:

I wouldn't say my playstyle is scummy, just that I don't conform to site (or mafia in general) meta. I usually look more and more townie the further into a game I live.

I remember reading this a couple of times before. From scum.

That post didn't ping me until Aneninen pointed it out. It seems a really awkward explanation of why we could scumread him.

The scumlean on jmo16mla is because his first interactions with you, but it was just a gut read; I'll read that again if you want a better explanation!

Yeaah I'm gonna have to stop you on that jmo read

Again, why? If you have no problems defending me, why don't you stand up for him too? I'm feeling pocketed by you

Just because I'm defending you doesn't mean I think you're right

[Gamma Emerald]

In response to Dino asking me my lynchool, I'll separate it into piles depending on which will be for different reasons.

Gut Lynches (The ones I think are the most scummy IMO):

Almost50: Of all my games with him this is him at his most passive. Maybe trying

too hard

in wanting to not die Night one in an Open AGAIN, but I know it contradicts everything he's done that I've seen from him.

Gamma Emerald: I only played on other game with him, but I also remember him being so much more nonchalant about being accused as scum when he was town, yet he's very defensive.

Copout Lynches (one out of fustration or compromise):

Mutantdevle: I did make an entire case against him despite half of it being directed towards a different individuals, but it still stands that it's a possibility should the town be divided.

TheGoldenParadox: looking back made me realize he's only casted what is basically a single post and a "lmao" reaction afterwards. I cannot see him as a power role at this point, so a good middle ground.

JaydragonKing: You can put myself in this catagory as well, really, but that's for you guys to explain and think about, not me.

Informative Lynches (one made out of trying to find a scumteam then for only their own scummy nature):

Luca Blight: The one I want to be hung the least of the group but there's a reason if he is lynched. Should he flip town, I know one of the others who started the push for him is scum.

Aneninen or jmo16mla: I can't see these two being on separate teams atm. I feel like if one flips, we'll know the other's alignment thereafter.

How am I being defensive here? I want to know what you're calling defensive so I can determine what I was actually meaning with it

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Aneninen
I'm feeling this one

Because he voted you or?

Because he's looking like he's trying to discredit

[Gamma Emerald]

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My reads more often than not suck.
*cough*Greatest Idea Mafia*cough*
and then I realise that North is the only frickin' scum

That game was

weird

. Don't blame yourself.

[TheGoldenParadox]

HOT TAKE: NSG is locktown. Good to know, moving on then.

Jay isn't scum with mutant. Nice to know I guess.

northsidegal is actually scum.

DOUBLY so if Creature turns out to be town through the day. Creature's read was right on point. I'll give NSG a couple chances to explain to me why exactly I think that.
And yes, this is a test, the response may very well affect this read. Please do actually explain why I, personally, Mathdino, am scumreading you. I wanna see if you're seeing the same things.

VOTE: northsidegal

FoS Mathdino

flip floppy as hell. Tell me the previous post was a joke and I'll get off your back.
VOTE: northsidegal
Actual vote.
Also feel like Jay is town for taking the effort to separate informative lynches from gut lynches, looks towny in my opinion.
Also, I feel like a possible motive for Almost being so passive that if he was active in this scenario, people would become suspicious that he wasn't NKed(since he can't NK himself).
Thoughts?
Pedit - Gamma, how is Aneinen trying to discredit here? Who/what is he trying to discredit?

[TheGoldenParadox]

pagetop
My reads more often than not suck.
*cough*Greatest Idea Mafia*cough*
and then I realise that North is the only frickin' scum

That game was

weird

. Don't blame yourself.

Yeah I guess, it was still a win . I feel like if the mod had gone with setup C(I think) it would have been a more fun and fair experience even though there were 7 antitown and no one would have hated her. Just my opnion tho.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not so sure Gamma is town tbh, but I'm not sure if it's just his posting style that's triggering me. But let's be honest, several consecutive posts consisting of a single sentence that contains little to no meaningful content is inherently scummy. It clutters the thread and makes people reluctant to re-read.

Also, @Gamma, can you not use the name abbreviation MD when myself and math are in a game together? kek.


I'm liking Golden's catchup though. I disagree that he is not readable and I presently think he is town.

oops
just assume it's Mathdino

Also the thread's short enough where I'm not shifting gears into my actual catch-up mode

[Gamma Emerald]

HOT TAKE: NSG is locktown. Good to know, moving on then.

Jay isn't scum with mutant. Nice to know I guess.

northsidegal is actually scum.

DOUBLY so if Creature turns out to be town through the day. Creature's read was right on point. I'll give NSG a couple chances to explain to me why exactly I think that.
And yes, this is a test, the response may very well affect this read. Please do actually explain why I, personally, Mathdino, am scumreading you. I wanna see if you're seeing the same things.

VOTE: northsidegal

FoS Mathdino

flip floppy as hell. Tell me the previous post was a joke and I'll get off your back.
VOTE: northsidegal
Actual vote.
Also feel like Jay is town for taking the effort to separate informative lynches from gut lynches, looks towny in my opinion.
Also, I feel like a possible motive for Almost being so passive that if he was active in this scenario, people would become suspicious that he wasn't NKed(since he can't NK himself).
Thoughts?
Pedit - Gamma, how is Aneinen trying to discredit here? Who/what is he trying to discredit?

I think your reads are okay besides A50 seeming a bit closedminded of a read
also it has to do with Aneni's earlier posting