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Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:23 pm**

OhGodMyLife wrote:6. Votes should be made in bold, such as
Vote: OhGodMyLife
. When changing your vote, please
Unvote: OGML
.
This is not entirely necessary
but makes my job easier.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:26 pm**

Albert wrote:Erg0 Green destroyed your (G) arguments

BS. Post 80 is speculation unless you can prove Giuseppe has lied. (Add Scum Points) false & negative feedback.

Albert wrote:and provided ample evidence to your guilt, particularly in post 80 where your scummy actions are revealed.

Ample evidence? State said evidence. I dont want a quote, I want you to list them to me.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:27 pm**

@Rules Quote

I believe hes talking about one being allowed to:
i) Unvote: Name
or
ii) Simply use 'unvote'.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:34 pm**

Scummy actions I'll admit. 'Lying' is never good. It should have occurred to me at the time I was concocting my discussion starting plan. However, it was not done with the intent of harming the town. If anyone could point out one way in which my 'lie' damaged the town, I'd like to see it.

The goal, as I stated, was discussion. The result seems an obvious success.

So, you can decide whether 'lying', as you call it, to start discussion was a bad move, or whether it can be, I would not say excused, but perhaps put on the back burner in light of a more fruitful discussion.

I myself don't have much more to say about it, other than it was experimental, dangerous, and successful, but certainly had, and has, the potential to end in lethality for myself.

*On a different note, you can be sure that I'll be refining this idea in the future, it's too good an idea to pass up. First thing I'm throwing out is the fib portion of the trick. O.o'*

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:34 pm**

PhilyEc, your most recent squander, coupled your suspicious behavior outlined in the quote below, have shown us how little you understand the game. I will now ignore you entirely until you post something of value.

Green Crayons wrote:
Phily wrote:Asks me questions, answers would be good scum food, doesnt notice that I dont answer (Empty questions to look town?)
Phily's furthered and continued retreat from his original lurker prodding led me to believe he didn't really have anyone in mind. His lack of an answer had me chalk up in my little notebook an attempt to look pro-town by calling out lurkers, but it backfired by pulling on that line a bit too early.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:44 pm**

Albert B. Rampage wrote:PhilyEc, your most recent squander, coupled your suspicious behavior outlined in the quote below, have shown us how little you understand the game. I will now ignore you entirely until you post something of value.

Green Crayons wrote:
Phily wrote:Asks me questions, answers would be good scum food, doesnt notice that I dont answer (Empty questions to look town?)
Phily's furthered and continued retreat from his original lurker prodding led me to believe he didn't really have anyone in mind. His lack of an answer had me chalk up in my little notebook an attempt to look pro-town by calling out lurkers, but it backfired by pulling on that line a bit too early.

My oh my, someone doesnt want the spotlight put under him alright. Its okay Albert, your avoidance will be accepted instead of a respectable post. (you're still due at least one)

Vote Albert

If you're town, ignoring someone questioning you will never vice well, if you're scum, thank you.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:44 pm**

Unvote, vote PhilyEC

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:48 pm**

Now you abandon you 'claim' on Giuseppe and go for a clichÃ© OMGUS? You're making this far too easy.

Has Giuseppe stopped being scum? (votes are for scum) Has the sudden realisation that all my posts have actually been useless and empty now sunk in and during this euphoric that you've realised I'm the real scum?

Perhaps its a last stab at survival by swinging at the one whos only added a slice of pressure on your self. Notice how reactive your reply to me is, big scumtell.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:50 pm**

Anyone who notes how I suspected PhilyEc

before

he voted for me gets brownie points.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:50 pm**

Noted.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:51 pm**

As for me, I'm not quite sure what to think yet. I'm going to reread, and see who of you is more in the right.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:52 pm**

What I like about Giuseppe's last post is how he's shown that he doesn't pretend like he knows what he's doing, different to PhilyEc, who knows very little about what he's doing, but likes to show off a whole lot.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:55 pm**

Albert wrote:What I like about Giuseppe's last post is how he's shown that he doesn't pretend like he knows what he's doing, different to PhilyEc, who knows very little about what he's doing, but likes to show off a whole lot.

BS. You decided to turn on me after reading my comment, before that you voiced no suspicion of me, merely leeched off another one of GC's posts.

I know exactly whats going on in this game and have made sure to note everything down I find I must remember, the sheets lying about a meter away from me now.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:57 pm**

What's that? Did you guys hear something? Maybe just the wind.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:06 pm**

Please dont waste posts on useless stuff thats expressing how abstinent you are the second you are put under the scope. Had you been town you'd have a much strong case before voting. The lightest context your behaviour can be put in is poor townie play. Defensive and useless so far.

Lets keep posting on the respectable level for now, okay?

Al wrote:I will now ignore you entirely until you post something of value.

Is just the opposite of that.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:33 pm**

Hey, look. I'm not erg0. Stop calling me that.

Giuseppe wrote:You kinda sorta took it out of context. My entire point is that everyone calls it random.

No, I did not. I spent the whole entire rest of my post talking about the context.

DOS wrote:What do you think about Green Crayons?
wasser wrote:Scum, but I want Phily to answer first.
wasser wrote:I think Phily could be scum. That's why I was holding off on GC until Phily gave me something to work with. How is this hard to understand?

...What? You said that you thought I was scum (not Phily) but you wanted Phily to "answer," which apparently was you wanting him to "give you something," but he already had his post 67 on full display - a good six posts prior to your request to have him answer. It's confusing because it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Please clarify.

Phily wrote:1. Self voting well into a game is dumb, random voting yourself is dumb but so are all random votes, you seem to agree with this outlook on random voting stages.
2. Counter productive well into a game, not at the beginning, all random votes lead to little productive result, those results than do get produced usually come from over-eager players who generally tend to reach.
3. I dont think anyone worries past if they are wagoning someone theyve picked randomly from mod's list. You single him out for voting different to everyone yet I think the vote itself was a mock/joke vote for obvious reason.

1. Yup.
2. No. It's counter productive at any point of the game. The RVS is shit. It's a manufactured concept that doesn't deserve any more time and attention than a half-thought. Self voting does not help in any way whatsoever from helping the town move away from the RVS. It's counter productive.
3. Have you ever been scum? I have. Plenty of times. From before my very first post I'm thinking about how my play will be interpreted if I or any of my mates die. Self voting absolves the scum of worrying that their very first vote might be interpreted in an incriminating fashion.

Conclusion: Self voting is stupid, counter productive or scummish. Any of those reasons is cause for a vote in the early stages of a game if I don't already have a better lead to follow. In lieu of a vote, a FoS will often suffice.

Phily wrote:I'm highly suspicious of you now. You're posting a tiny amount and leeching off of GC's accusations.

Reminds me of a few other players. Seraph, wasser. For example. Let's not focus our spotlight too sharply.

Phily wrote:Lying over a random vote is the reason you think hes scum?

Phily wrote:BS. Post 80 is speculation unless you can prove Giuseppe has lied.

You don't see the whole accusation, so let expound (though I feel as if I have said this before): Giuseppe lied over the genesis behind a "random" vote after the fact that he's given separate, semi-legitimate reasons all

so he doesn't look suspicious

. Saying you're voting for Player X because of meta, then come back after that to say that your vote is actually random (when the very definition of random decidedly makes such a vote not random) just to make yourself look less suspicious is a pretty big deal. I mean, I didn't think my initial suspicion had much merit, but I wanted to see how Giuseppe would react under pressure. Letting slip that he didn't want to look suspicious and so fudged the genesis of his vote is pretty much cracking under some pretty light pressure and begs closer scrutiny.

Albert wrote:Anyone who notes how I suspected PhilyEc before he voted for me gets brownie points.

I don't like brownies. Maybe you can reiterate your pre-being-voted-for suspicions for those of us lacking a sweet tooth.

FOS: Seraphim

, for this.

FOS: wasser

, for this.
Tagging along popular bandwagons while staying off the radar by not contributing in any meaningful way. Would love to see something from any of them that's helpful.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:37 pm**

[quote=Me]Tagging along popular bandwagons while staying off the radar by not contributing in any meaningful way. Would love to see something from any of them that's helpful. [/quote]Clarification: "...popular bandwagons of suspicion..."

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:39 pm**

Vote Count:

7 to lynch

Gorrad: 1 (ZEEnon)
GLaDOS: 1 (GhostWriter)
Giuseppe: 1 (Green Crayons)
Seraphim: 1 (zwetschanwasser)
GhostWriter: 1 (Seraphim)
zwetschanwasser: 1 (LynchHimNotMe)
Korlash: 1 (Korlash)
Green Crayons: 1 (GLaDOS)
Albert B. Rampage: 1 (PhilyEc)
PhilyEc: 1 (Albert B. Rampage)

Not Voting: 2 (Gorrad, Giuseppe)

Prods sent to GhostWriter and Gorrad.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:51 pm**

Green Crayons wrote:You don't see the whole accusation, so let expound (though I feel as if I have said this before): Giuseppe lied over the genesis behind a "random" vote after the fact that he's given separate, semi-legitimate reasons all so he doesn't look suspicious. Saying you're voting for Player X because of meta, then come back after that to say that your vote is actually random (when the very definition of random decidedly makes such a vote not random) just to make yourself look less suspicious is a pretty big deal. I mean, I didn't think my initial suspicion had much merit, but I wanted to see how Giuseppe would react under pressure. Letting slip that he didn't want to look suspicious and so fudged the genesis of his vote is pretty much cracking under some pretty light pressure and begs closer scrutiny.

Basically, you asked why his reason switched from meta behaviour to it only being a random vote. Later admiting he was trying to avoid suspicions then cracks. Aye?
I noted this and he received scum points for it. Unfortunately, later I concluded;

His unease for LHNM's style was what created the auto-suspicion.

It was never really random though, that point has sunk in now. Thus I agree that its strange that he seemed to crack, his excuse is that hes not good at defending himself.

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Noted, they have been acting rather useless hence why theyre not in my notes as to having contributed. Seraphim bounces around questions alot then watches events unfold. No opinions only questions.

Zwets I'm not so sure about, need to analyse further.

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Green Crayons wrote:1. Yup.
2. No. It's counter productive at any point of the game. The RVS is shit. It's a manufactured concept that doesn't deserve any more time and attention than a half-thought. Self voting does not help in any way whatsoever from helping the town move away from the RVS. It's counter productive.
3. Have you ever been scum? I have. Plenty of times. From before my very first post I'm thinking about how my play will be interpreted if I or any of my mates die. Self voting absolves the scum of worrying that their very first vote might be interpreted in an incriminating fashion.

1. Kay~
2. Its easy enough to look past thus its not stopping anyone, I dont think it effected the town, did it?
3. I have never been scum, though if I was I'd do what everyone else was doing during RVS and vote for someone randomly as a townie would.

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Memo: One problem, I've found Seraphim scummy in every game I've played with him, I dont like it >_> Maybe its a natural vibe from him, maybe he should simply work on his gameplay, but I'd feel pretty shitty to be honest if this turns into a habit. Apologies Sera, it really isnt personal.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:21 pm**

Mod: I'll be V/LA until Monday night. My apologies for the inconvenience. I will try to post if I can, but the V/LA will not go away until Monday night for sure.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:35 pm**

... Processing ...

That vote count is interesting.

CRAB-G.

Mod: Please prod ZEEnon

since he has now hit the 72-hour mark.

Posted: **Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:57 pm**

I apologize. Expect content later today.

Posted: **Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:11 am**

Ghostwriters last post: Mar 16, 1am. (GMT)
LHNM's last post: Mar 16, 11:40pm. (GMT)
ZEEnon's last post: Mar 16, 3am. (GMT)

[strokes imaginery beard]

Posted: **Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:48 am**

After stalking Ghostwriter my investigation results:
Posting actively after the 16th in both Cheat Mafia and South Park Mafia.

After stalking LHNM my investigation results:
Posting actively until 16th in Robot Chicken Mafia.

After stalking Zeenon my investigation results:
Latest post was here.

Ghostwriter, are you feeling reluctant to post here or is it necessary that you continue to lurk?

Posted: **Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:28 am**

Ah man... It's one of these games... where everyone talks... *rolls eyes*

Lets see... I don't really feel connected to any of the latest gossip. I would like to throw my hat into the ring of asking Albert to clearify his supicions simply so theres no confusion anywhere. And... uh... no that's about it...

Gorrad... Come back! Don't leave me with these people... >.> <.<

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