Boost Mafia 2 (Game Over)

[Wiirdo]

Who do I find scummy? Mufasa is probably the main guy.

Okay, I'll bite. I'll boost every 6th person:

Boost:Papa Zito
Boost:Cateraction
Boost:Sajin

[Kmd4390]

Why not boost players who look protown instead?

[Wiirdo]

I don't know who looks pro-town now really.

By making it patterned, you know I'm not a scum boosting his buddies. It's the only way of doing things that is unbiased.

[Kmd4390]

Why are you so worried about anyone thinking you are boosting buddies if you are town?

[ConsonantM]

Bandwagon much? Especially after we JUST called Mufasa out 4 that same exact reasoning?

Yea...huge FoS right there.

You are seriously asking me why it's protown to get out of the RVS?

Yea. i fail 2 see how--scum want the game 2 get started as much as town do.

Making it a null tell.

Well, it starts the actual game.

So? Scum want that, 2.

It gets real discussion going.

Scum want that as well. No point in playing, otherwise.

We can start to scumhunt.

If we didn't, we might as well just slit our own wrists and let the mafia win.
Starting to scum hunt isn't pro-town. It's a null tell; scum want it as well, 4 y play in a game where nobody is trying 2 win?

And if we never did it, we'd be jokelynching which is something we wouldn't want.

Again, scum don't want 2 play that way. It'd be an empty victory.

So yeah. It's protown to get out of the RVS.

Again, i still fail 2 see y scum would NOT want us out of the RVS any more than town would.

So, no, not pro-town; null.

Note that I am not saying it's protown to do something weird and say "K, now we're out of the RVS" or to do something scummy to "get reactions" to get us out of the RVS.

i fail 2 see the difference--it has the same outcome.

The best way to get out of the RVS is to draw attention to a serious point.

Like lurking, voting no lynch, etc.

They can b seen as a serious point.

Basically, my issue is that you did something just to appear protown

No, i did it 2 get us out of the RVS.

and you went out of your way to make sure we knew you were doing it.

Duh. i went out of my way to make sure ppl knew i was trying to kill the RVS. It's a null tell; y make so much of it?

"Oh, I'm an honest townie. I just want to play the game."

1: Rolefishing. "townie" is a role.
2: i'm bing honest, and want 2 play the game.
So what?
Doesn't mean nething towards my alignment.

Um...what?

Why would you WANT to look bad..

Bcause i'm a jester.

Seriously, tho, i just want 2 get discussion going. Looking bad does that nicely.

And if that's the case, why are you defending yourself so much?

Eh, no longer necessary 2 look bad. Mission accomplished; now i defend myself.

Why ARE you witholding it?

Reactions, of course.
i want 2 see what others think of it.

Y no vote?

U fail 2 answer my lurking accusations, Semioldguy.

So in Boost 1, the town power roles and the mafia would start out with a one-shot power.

Refresh my memory and show me where it says this in Boost 1. i thought many had more than one shot 2 start out with. :/

Are you saying that whatever Semi says, you'll be ok with his answers?

If he answers my concerns, then he's no longer suspicious.
If he answers it, but I still have concern over him, then Mufasa will be spared until i am no longer concerned about Semi.

Don't see the problem with that.
Answering a post, even all of the points in it != answering concern.

[semioldguy]

That's not necessarily true as you could have chosen a pattern that benefited your buddies instead of a pattern that didn't.

[semioldguy]

EBWOP: Post 105 was in reference to 102.

[ConsonantM]

Scum suspects:

Semi,
Wiirdo,
Mufasa,
Kise.

Easy win.

[Wiirdo]

I'm not worried, it's just that if I do anything now it's questioned, so I might as well do things fair and square. Are you saying you wouldn't have said the same thing if I boosted three players of my choice?

NOTE: Also, am I able to edit a post, as it's much easier than waiting for someone to reply and then post.

[Sajin]

Y no vote?

I was already voting him. I find /confirm votes stupid.

M- Care to explain why your boosting who you are?

[semioldguy]

@ConsonantM
I didn't answer your lurking accusations because they were already addressed and I thought the accusation was baseless to begin with. I am in seven games (six as of a couple hours ago). Not every time I am logged into the site am I able to update in every game.

[ConsonantM]

M- Care to explain why your boosting who you are?

They seem pro-town. Y else?

@ConsonantM
I didn't answer your lurking accusations because they were already addressed and I thought the accusation was baseless to begin with. I am in seven games (six as of a couple hours ago). Not every time I am logged into the site am I able to update in every game.

Yet u were online 4 HOURS and STILL failed 2 comment.

THAT seemed like lurking 2 me.

Not an adequate response; i still have concerns over Semi.

[semioldguy]

NOTE: Also, am I able to edit a post, as it's much easier than waiting for someone to reply and then post.

No, editing your posts is against the rules in any game on this site.

[Kmd4390]

Yea. i fail 2 see how--scum want the game 2 get started as much as town do.

Scum would absolutely love it if the game wasn't serious yet and there was a deadline in 2 days. They'd also love it if there was a lynch in the RVS that didn't implicate them. Do you disagree?

If we didn't, we might as well just slit our own wrists and let the mafia win.
Starting to scum hunt isn't pro-town. It's a null tell; scum want it as well, 4 y play in a game where nobody is trying 2 win?

Meh. Depends on playstyle. Players like myself like to control a game as scum, so scumhunting being around doesn't threaten them. Some players go through the game being worried about being suspected. Those players don't like to see a lot of scumhunting. But still, most scum would love it if a lynch happened without any real scumhunting going on.

Again, scum don't want 2 play that way. It'd be an empty victory.

Play to win. Breaking a setup as town isn't an empty victory, is it?

Like lurking, voting no lynch, etc.

They can b seen as a serious point.

Yeah, if someone does that, you lay a serious vote, wait for their defense, discuss it, guage everyone else's reactions, and you have a mafia game.

1: Rolefishing. "townie" is a role.

>.<

I just got done playing a game on SA. On SA, "townie" is commonly used to describe any town aligned player. I didn't mean "townie" as in a vanilla.

If he answers my concerns, then he's no longer suspicious.
If he answers it, but I still have concern over him, then Mufasa will be spared until i am no longer concerned about Semi.

Don't see the problem with that.
Answering a post, even all of the points in it != answering concern.

Hmm. Ok. I read "answers" as "responds to". Misinterpreted it I guess.

[Wiirdo]

NOTE: Also, am I able to edit a post, as it's much easier than waiting for someone to reply and then post.

No, editing your posts is against the rules in any game on this site.

Yeah, I can see how that can create problems.

Also, ConsonantM, your posts are very hard to read right now the way they're formatted. I can't tell who you're quoting.

[Kmd4390]

I'm not worried, it's just that if I do anything now it's questioned, so I might as well do things fair and square. Are you saying you wouldn't have said the same thing if I boosted three players of my choice?

NOTE: Also, am I able to edit a post, as it's much easier than waiting for someone to reply and then post.

No. I wouldn't have said a thing if you said "X, Y, and Z are protown" and boosted them. I may have asked "Why is Y protown?" or something, but it wouldn't have looked bad.

No, you can't edit. You don't have to wait for replies though.

[Kmd4390]

Also, ConsonantM, your posts are very hard to read right now the way they're formatted. I can't tell who you're quoting.

I think he said in another game once that any quote that doesn't have a name is the same person as the last named quote.

[Papa Zito]

^^ Theory discussion isn't helping catch scum.

We need to fill up the Mufasa wagon.

To answer ConsonantM's question:

You start the game with a sprig of a very rare herb, which has extraordinary healing powers. Once during the game, at night, you may choose another player; they will be immune to all nightkills that night.

You win when all anti-town roles are eliminated.

Note: turns into full doctor if boosted. If boosted twice, he can also self protect once.

You begin this game with a gun and one bullet. You may use it on another player during the night, if you so wish.

You win when all anti-town roles are eliminated.

Note: Becomes a full vig when boosted. If boosted twice, he is unightkillable on any night when he doesn't kill.

They didn't all work this way, but most worked like this or something similar.

[semioldguy]

Yet u were online 4 HOURS and STILL failed 2 comment.

THAT seemed like lurking 2 me.

Not an adequate response; i still have concerns over Semi.

I wasn't sitting online for four consecutive hours. I was on and off the computer for most of last night as I was doing other things too like showering, walking to Ralphs to buy groceries, cooking and eating dinner.

[Wiirdo]

I'm only getting the hang of this now. My 2nd game.

Hmm, I see Consonant's suspicions list, and while I can sort of see why he'd vote for me, I don't see why semioldguy is mafia. Him participating in other games doesn't make him a lurker. That is a nulltell.

[Papa Zito]

Wow major snipage.

[Patrick]

Votecount

populartajo (1) -- zwetschenwasser
Mufasa (6) -- semioldguy, Sajin, populartajo, Papa Zito, BloodCovenent, Kise
ConsonantM (5) -- Kmd4390, OhGodMyLife, Empking, Mufasa, cateraction
semioldguy (1) -- ConsonantM
Kise (1) -- Sir Tornado

Not voting: MissTake, millar13, Wiirdo, Porochaz.
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

Boosting

OhGodMyLife (6) -- Papa Zito, zwetschenwasser, populartajo, ConsonantM, Mufasa, Sir Tornado
Kmd4390 (5) -- Empking, populartajo, Sajin, OhGodMyLife, BloodCovenent
populartajo (4) -- Empking, ConsonantM, Sajin, Kise
Sir Tornado (3) -- Empking, OhGodMyLife, Mufasa
Papa Zito (4) -- OhGodMyLife, ConsonantM, Kmd4390, Wiirdo
Empking (2) -- Kmd4390, populartajo
Sajin (3) -- Kmd4390, Kise, Wiirdo
zwetschenwasser (1) -- Mufasa
Porochaz (1) -- Sir Tornado
cateraction (1) -- Wiirdo

[ConsonantM]

Scum would absolutely love it if the game wasn't serious yet and there was a deadline in 2 days. They'd also love it if there was a lynch in the RVS that didn't implicate them. Do you disagree?

Yes.
Who wants such a hollow victory?
I wouldn't.

Random lynching would be no fun, cheap, dirty, etc.

i dont see scum doing it.

[Kmd4390]

Play to win. Take the win any way you can get it.

You seem to genuinely believe that though..

[Mufasa]

What is the point of bandwagoning me ? I see all of your points of why my reasoning to vote Mastin was terrible and I'll see what I can gather from his posts from now on just will take some extra time.

unvote: Mastin