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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:41 am

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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:02 am

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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:24 am

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I find his vote a bit eager and I am sure he will unvote soon and do one of the following:
1) Apologize and say, "Your right, I was wrong."

Or

2) Defend himself by voting someone else to try and get suspicion off of him, which won't work.

Option 1 would be best in this case however I am assuming he will stick with option 2.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:25 am

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Mr. Mod: I believe Paradoxombie is voting for Looker.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:09 pm

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:lol:
FoS: Starbuck & Paradoxzombie

Starbuck's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1907419#1907419]Post 91[/url] wrote:So just because he has the most votes means he should die? Why do you want him dead?

I gave my reason for voting Archon. Right now, all you are saying is that you want DeathNote dead but you aren't giving any reasons.

Unvote, Vote: Looker


For dodging questions and beating around the bush
Way to twist my words, in what way could you have inferred that I wanted him dead? Or was this an assumption of yours? A stretch? A leap? Furthermore, the question you asked was answered and there was no bush for me to beat around. You're pushing a dead-beat case. It's a good scum tactic, but perfected with an actually believable case.
Sironigous's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1907428#1907428]Post 92[/url] wrote:
Mr. Mod: Is Archon proddable at this point? If so, please prod him! Thank you!


Also,

Vote: Looker

For dodging my question as well.
You, I'm confused about, because the question you asked had no relevance to anything, so to help me with this confusion, I'll ask you your opinion of Zwet. Town or scum to you?
Paradoxombie's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1907499#1907499]Post 93[/url] wrote:
unvote, vote:Looker

Looker wrote:How are you expecting to pressure him when you call your vote a pressure vote? By saying that, aren't you're letting him know just how pointless your vote really is?
Basically this is how I feel about your idea for "a quickly assembled wagon". It really undermines the psychological aspect of a bandwagon when you ask if it's a good tactic and argue about its value in advance. A wagon should be piled on more than assembled. And you haven't even placed a vote yet so I wouldn't call it quick.
:P I
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Starbuck's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1907553#1907553]Post 98[/url] wrote:This game is very dead right now.

DeathNote, how do you feel about Looker wanting you dead? So far his only reason is that you have the most votes and he dodged my question as to why he wants you dead. It's too early to have any type of investigation on you, so what do you think about this situation?
Trying to incur the wrath (and vote) of the town (in all honesty, DeathNote, you
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be town; it's not like you've done anything scummy). Once again, in what way could you have inferred that I wanted DeathNote dead? And you never asked me why, or if for that matter, I wanted him dead. You simply took a simple suggestion and ran with it.
DeathNote's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1907968#1907968]Post 102[/url] wrote:I find his vote a bit eager and I am sure he will unvote soon and do one of the following:
1) Apologize and say, "Your right, I was wrong."

Or

2) Defend himself by voting someone else to try and get suspicion off of him, which won't work.

Option 1 would be best in this case however I am assuming he will stick with option 2.
I never voted, man, which is what makes this thing so great. I didn't even do anything scummy. So you're right, I
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stick with option #2.
vote Paradoxzombie

Now the question is, why Paradox over Starbuck...?
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:32 pm

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Looker wrote: :P I
love
this! You've done it, Paradox, and you're absolutely right. Wagons should be piled upon moreso than assembled, and you've piled right on, haven't you?

....

I never voted, man, which is what makes this thing so great. I didn't even do anything scummy. So you're right, I
will
stick with option #2.
vote Paradoxzombie

Now the question is, why Paradox over Starbuck...?
The fact that you didn't vote when we needed them, and that your first real vote is OMGUS makes you look more focused on your own hide than making the game move.

I told you why your methods were ineffective. Do you normally not take criticism well or do you feel threatened?
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:36 pm

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Uh, wow. You have done something scummy, Looker - saying that votes should be piled on DeathNote because of "active lurking" - when you yourself haven't sone much, and then not actually voting for him. And now you OMGUS on Paradox in your first non-random vote? Seriously?

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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:39 pm

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Looker wrote: Now the question is, why Paradox over Starbuck...?
Yes, normally I'd expect someone to worry more about being significantly misrepresented. Maybe my valid criticism is more threatening?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:49 pm

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Paradoxombie's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1908498#1908498]Post 105[/url] wrote:
Looker wrote: :P I
love
this! You've done it, Paradox, and you're absolutely right. Wagons should be piled upon moreso than assembled, and you've piled right on, haven't you?

....

I never voted, man, which is what makes this thing so great. I didn't even do anything scummy. So you're right, I
will
stick with option #2.
vote Paradoxzombie

Now the question is, why Paradox over Starbuck...?
The fact that you didn't vote when we needed them, and that your first real vote is OMGUS makes you look more focused on your own hide than making the game move.

I told you why your methods were ineffective. Do you normally not take criticism well or do you feel threatened?
What do you mean by when we needed them? And it's not a game of 1-2-3 Not It so I don't see how the OMGUS comes in. I could see if I was voting you just because you're voting me, but I'm not. And you trying to cast yourself in an instructional light is fictitious, because you didn't tell merely tell me why my methods were ineffective, which they weren't, but you voted me for scumhunting. And as far as criticism and being threatened, are you trying to mask the fact that you're voting for me for scumhunting?
Paradoxombie's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1907499#1907499]Post 93[/url] wrote:
unvote, vote:Looker

Looker wrote:How are you expecting to pressure him when you call your vote a pressure vote? By saying that, aren't you're letting him know just how pointless your vote really is?
Basically this is how I feel about your idea for "a quickly assembled wagon". It really undermines the psychological aspect of a bandwagon when you ask if it's a good tactic and argue about its value in advance. A wagon should be piled on more than assembled. And you haven't even placed a vote yet so I wouldn't call it quick.
Boxman's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1908511#1908511]Post 106[/url] wrote:Uh, wow. You have done something scummy, Looker - saying that votes should be piled on DeathNote because of "active lurking" - when you yourself haven't sone much, and then not actually voting for him. And now you OMGUS on Paradox in your first non-random vote? Seriously?

Vote: Looker
Seriously? You sound disappointed, so much so that you reiterated Paradox's sentiments. And there goes that OMGUS term again, reminiscent of "the duality of man" phrase. OMGUS! No, omgUs! I'm not buyin' it.
Paradoxombie's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1908513#1908513]Post 107[/url] wrote:
Looker wrote: Now the question is, why Paradox over Starbuck...?
Yes, normally I'd expect someone to worry more about being significantly misrepresented. Maybe my valid criticism is more threatening?
I don't get what you're saying. I know the point about valid criticism is wrong because it wasn't criticism, it was a vote for scumhunting, but I don't know what you mean by this. Either way, what are your thoughts on Starbuck? You think she's right and that I'm wrong?
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:50 pm

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Looker wrote: What do you mean by when we needed them? And it's not a game of 1-2-3 Not It so I don't see how the OMGUS comes in. I could see if I was voting you just because you're voting me, but I'm not. And you trying to cast yourself in an instructional light is fictitious, because you didn't tell merely tell me why my methods were ineffective, which they weren't, but you voted me for scumhunting. And as far as criticism and being threatened, are you trying to mask the fact that you're voting for me for scumhunting?
You didn't actually give a reason when you voted me. I voted you because I agreed with your suggestion that there should be a wagon to get things going. And there's no way that I am voting you for scumhunting any less than you are voting me for it. I actually applied pressure and you leap on me back. How is that not OMGUS? My vote for you is the reason you voted me. You look like you can't handle a little pressure now. You're vote only came out after you had been voted, so it looks like your "scumhunting" wasn't as important as the bandwagon on you.

Looker wrote: I don't get what you're saying. I know the point about valid criticism is wrong because it wasn't criticism, it was a vote for scumhunting, but I don't know what you mean by this. Either way, what are your thoughts on Starbuck? You think she's right and that I'm wrong?
I didn't think your answers were evasive, I thought you made you idea pretty clear. Starbuck also went after you for suggesting a lynch when you never even mentioned one as far as I can see. I agree that those seem like "scum tactics" and I don't get why you're not going after her over me.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:59 pm

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Paradoxombie's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1908682#1908682]Post 109[/url] wrote:
Looker wrote: What do you mean by when we needed them? And it's not a game of 1-2-3 Not It so I don't see how the OMGUS comes in. I could see if I was voting you just because you're voting me, but I'm not. And you trying to cast yourself in an instructional light is fictitious, because you didn't tell merely tell me why my methods were ineffective, which they weren't, but you voted me for scumhunting. And as far as criticism and being threatened, are you trying to mask the fact that you're voting for me for scumhunting?
You didn't actually give a reason when you voted me. I voted you because I agreed with your suggestion that there should be a wagon to get things going. And there's no way that I am voting you for scumhunting any less than you are voting me for it. I actually applied pressure and you leap on me back. How is that not OMGUS? My vote for you is the reason you voted me. You look like you can't handle a little pressure now. You're vote only came out after you had been voted, so it looks like your "scumhunting" wasn't as important as the bandwagon on you.

Looker wrote: I don't get what you're saying. I know the point about valid criticism is wrong because it wasn't criticism, it was a vote for scumhunting, but I don't know what you mean by this. Either way, what are your thoughts on Starbuck? You think she's right and that I'm wrong?
I didn't think your answers were evasive, I thought you made you idea pretty clear. Starbuck also went after you for suggesting a lynch when you never even mentioned one as far as I can see. I agree that those seem like "scum tactics" and I don't get why you're not going after her over me.
Shit. I wish you would've told me you were helping me, that was a waste of time. But if you suspect Starbuck of her "scum tactics", why are you still voting me? Hypocrisy? OMGUS? And what about Boxman? He jumped on after you and regurgitated your words? Don't you find that suspicious?

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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:12 pm

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Looker wrote: Shit. I wish you would've told me you were helping me, that was a waste of time. But if you suspect Starbuck of her "scum tactics", why are you still voting me? Hypocrisy? OMGUS? And what about Boxman? He jumped on after you and regurgitated your words? Don't you find that suspicious?
Well generally I expect people to use misrepresentation and strawman arguments as pressure. I'd probably vote Starbuck if she took it much further without more serious reasons. Still I'd expect you to respond to her pressure over mine, because her's seems more inflammatory. And yet you picked me?

I don't think Boxman was regurgitating just because he was responding to the same actions. It's fair to accuse him of bandwagoning, but I think his accusations are more valid than Starbuck's.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:26 pm

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Paradoxombie's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1908710#1908710]Post 111[/url] wrote:
Looker wrote: Shit. I wish you would've told me you were helping me, that was a waste of time. But if you suspect Starbuck of her "scum tactics", why are you still voting me? Hypocrisy? OMGUS? And what about Boxman? He jumped on after you and regurgitated your words? Don't you find that suspicious?
Well generally I expect people to use misrepresentation and strawman arguments as pressure. I'd probably vote Starbuck if she took it much further without more serious reasons. Still I'd expect you to respond to her pressure over mine, because her's seems more inflammatory. And yet you picked me?

I don't think Boxman was regurgitating just because he was responding to the same actions. It's fair to accuse him of bandwagoning, but I think his accusations are more valid than Starbuck's.
I know it's rather backwards, but the reasons I chose you were
because
Starbuck's pressure was so inflammatory. I didn't want my feelings regarding Starbuck to override my logic and cost me the game so I stuck with you, to whom I was more or less ambivalent.
Looker's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1907382#1907382]Post 90[/url] wrote:How are you expecting to pressure him when you call your vote a pressure vote? By saying that, aren't you're letting him know just how pointless your vote really is?

And I know you asked me a question, I can read; however, so should you. DeathNote has the most votes.
And her Post 91 was so pointed, she mentioned death over and over again as if to give this feeling of an NK or something. And then voted me for "beating around the bush". I don't get it. It seems contrived to me, or stretched - I really don't know that many adjectives to be honest.
Starbuck's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1907419#1907419]Post 91[/url] wrote:So just because he has the most votes means he should die? Why do you want him dead?

I gave my reason for voting Archon. Right now, all you are saying is that you want DeathNote dead but you aren't giving any reasons.

Unvote, Vote: Looker


For dodging questions and beating around the bush
Starbuck's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1907374#1907374]Post 89[/url] wrote:I asked you a question. Why would you want a lynch on DeathNote over the other 11 people that you are playing with?

I voted Archon for pressure. It's been 6 days since he last post.
And I rest my case, your pressure vote provided no pressure whatsoever. Archon has yet to post.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:19 am

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unvote, vote: Starbuck


How serious are your accusations against Looker?
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:58 am

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hell, this was a long page to read LoL

are u guys buddying? tbh seems you are not, cuz what you say makes at least some sense, but I am going to reread this long dialogue of yours...
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:04 am

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Unvote


Not very. I just wanted to get the game moving and it worked.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:37 am

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Starbuck wrote:
Unvote


Not very. I just wanted to get the game moving and it worked.
Mmh, you were quite ready to drop it, huh?

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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:38 am

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unvote

Starbuck's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1909263#1909263]Post 115[/url] wrote:
Unvote


Not very. I just wanted to get the game moving and it worked.
Okay, so you were doing the same thing I was doing, eh? Alright then, what did you gain from it? What are your newfound suspicions? More pointedly, how do you feel about Boxman's addition to the wagon?

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Starbuck wrote:
Unvote


Not very. I just wanted to get the game moving and it worked.
Mmh, you were quite ready to drop it, huh?

Unvote. Vote: Starbuck
And I love this because it throws you into the fray as well, freund. If Starbuck ever pops up town, do you know the chances of town turning to you as scum on her wagon? Paradox's actions could be somewhat seen as breadcrumbedl
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:39 am

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EBWOP: Kind of like Zwet's "NOBODY GET REPLACED!" which I still don't understand, btw.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:52 am

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Looker wrote:
unvote

Starbuck's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1909263#1909263]Post 115[/url] wrote:
Unvote


Not very. I just wanted to get the game moving and it worked.
Okay, so you were doing the same thing I was doing, eh? Alright then, what did you gain from it? What are your newfound suspicions? More pointedly, how do you feel about Boxman's addition to the wagon?

@Zwet
Same to you, Zwet.
lewarcher82's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1909419#1909419]Post 116[/url] wrote:
Starbuck wrote:
Unvote


Not very. I just wanted to get the game moving and it worked.
Mmh, you were quite ready to drop it, huh?

Unvote. Vote: Starbuck
And I love this because it throws you into the fray as well, freund. If Starbuck ever pops up town, do you know the chances of town turning to you as scum on her wagon? Paradox's actions could be somewhat seen as breadcrumbedl
Na, was soll es? I simply do not trust people who easily drop a vote when they get FoS'ed.
And I also FoS Zwet, as I already said, so it looks like we have opposite positions, meine liebe :-)
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:30 pm

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Why do you FoS me?
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:16 pm

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lewarcher82's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1909606#1909606]Post 119[/url] wrote:
Looker wrote:
unvote

Starbuck's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1909263#1909263]Post 115[/url] wrote:
Unvote


Not very. I just wanted to get the game moving and it worked.
Okay, so you were doing the same thing I was doing, eh? Alright then, what did you gain from it? What are your newfound suspicions? More pointedly, how do you feel about Boxman's addition to the wagon?

@Zwet
Same to you, Zwet.
lewarcher82's [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1909419#1909419]Post 116[/url] wrote:
Starbuck wrote:
Unvote


Not very. I just wanted to get the game moving and it worked.
Mmh, you were quite ready to drop it, huh?

Unvote. Vote: Starbuck
And I love this because it throws you into the fray as well, freund. If Starbuck ever pops up town, do you know the chances of town turning to you as scum on her wagon? Paradox's actions could be somewhat seen as breadcrumbedl
Na, was soll es? I simply do not trust people who easily drop a vote when they get FoS'ed.
And I also FoS Zwet, as I already said, so it looks like we have opposite positions, meine liebe :-)
Ihre liebe? Sie sind lustig... :wink:
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La traduzione è facile. Starbuck è morire :| Starbuck
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Nu zie je er scummy. Wat denk je, Zwet?
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:19 pm

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stemming: Starbuck
Abstimmung: Starbuck
voto: Starbuck
投票: Starbuck


In layman's terms
vote: Starbuck
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:56 pm

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@Zwet: I already explained what I think, but I do it again.

you posted your "no replacement" refrain out of nowhere. If it means you are a pr, then you should have waited. If it has no meaning at all, you are trying to generate confusion. If you were forced to post it, I am inclined to think that you are a strong third party who *must* post suspicious stuff in order to balance his great power.

This is not enough for a lynch, but it is enough for a fos, at least to me.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:40 am

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Sorry about that everyone, I was unexpectedly away for the weekend. I was at the VGXPO and I was unable to get online at the person's place I was staying at, which I didn't expect. I'll read and catch up later today.
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