Mini 148: Christmas Mafia! Game Over!

[Dmi]

The claim sounds realistic. If there's another Mom, then, well, I'll vote for Doomcow.
The role of Mom makes sense and I highly doubt that Mom is mafia. It would not make sense.

I don't know whether it's Crola's style, but she seems scummy to me.
How about revealing some more information, Crola?
It might be good for the town. [/sarcasm]

Vote:Crola

[Stewie]

Sorry if I haven't been talking much. I kept up with the game, and all I could think of saying is "Vote stays."

Oh yeah, and Vote stays.

[rolandofthewhite]

Unvote: DoomCow

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[Crola]

I don't know whether it's Crola's style, but she seems scummy to me.

I'M A HE! Hence the blue arrow.
anyway, scummy is my play style
and mom sounds like it's a townie, nothing of much use, that we know of it could very well be a doctor mom

anyway, it also let's us work things out mathematically
there are 9 people who's roles we don't know for sure (assuming mom is a real role)
we know one more is in the mason, which leaves 8 amongst us to be possible scum
I'm not scum, so technically 7 but no one believes me so it doesn't matter
there's probably a cop-- 6
I say with a good lynch we can narrow down who's who a little better

. . . 1 vote to lynch me . . .

[Dmi]

. . . 1 vote to lynch me . . .

Hmmm. Maybe you should claim.

And sorry about the gender part.

[Crola]

I'm a roleblocker, I blocked Meme night one, sorry Meme, I figured since you were one of the most experienced I'd block you, hope I didn't stop you from doing anything too important
that's my role, you can believe me or kill me, either way I'm telling the truth
I have never once made a false or untrue role claim, and I'm not starting now
I;m the weatherman, so I say who it snows on and they get blocked

[rolandofthewhite]

Hmm...

[Stewie]

Hmm. indeed, roland. First of all,

unvote: crola

because I don't like it to be so close to a lynch while we are still discussing. Secondly, the claim sounds a bit made up, and the fact that he used the ability night one doesn't ease it on my eyes, but I'm willing to hear what everyone has to say.

MeMe, can you confirm the blockage?? Yes or no will do, although you can also throw a "I rather not answer" if you rather not answer.

[MeMe]

Crola's lying. Period. You can lynch me tomorrow if he's not scum.

[Stewie]

vote: crola

[rolandofthewhite]

Got it.

Vote: Crola

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[Dmi]

Um, roland, your vote would be the seventh vote.
Are you trying to fit in?

[Crola]

ok, that makes 6 votes Dmi
anyway, I was telling the truth which means you'll lynch Meme tomorrow, and please lynch her, she deserves it after calling me a liar
howevever, I will tell you one thing, there was extra to my role, as weatherman, I could warn people that it would snow by them, if I did, they got blocked, if I didn't they got killed, however, FD said sometimes warnings don't always get to the person and they'd die
I warned meme hence her still living
this is my role, I never lied

[rolandofthewhite]

O.o

Is it too late to unvote? I'd like to think about this more...

Unvote: Crola

(if possible).

[Crola]

Meme, you've doomed yourself to death if I die this day
Please let my death not be in vain if I die

Lynch Meme as she requested to be

[MeMe]

I'm shaking. Give me a break.

Just pointing out that if he were truly innocent, he should be warning

against

lynching me despite the fact that I've come out against his story. But I'm fine with being lynched if he's innocent -- why? Because he's not.

I mean -- even if you don't believe me, look at this from the perspective he's claiming: There were two kills last night. He blocked me. Although I could be a mafia member who didn't kill last night, in his mind I should be more cleared than anyone else, eh? But he's totally ignoring his own story and yelling for my death, in hopes that someone will panic and unvote -- what's interesting is that roland's buying it (or at least pretending to). He also FOSed me earlier in the day, which is uncharacteristic for a someone claiming to be a town player who should have me listed as somewhat cleared. Just like a cop with an innocent result...he shouldn't have wanted to risk getting any momentum built against me.

I hope that FD doesn't allow that unvote...but I'm also wondering if, for some reason, we need more than the 6 votes to lynch his role. FD's been on since the final vote and Crola seems to be working pretty hard for a dead man.

[Crola]

Meme, the fact you want an innocent man dead so badly makes you a bad player, even if you're innocent, who wants a townie that makes the town look like scum?

also, we don't know if there's more than one mafia, even with 12 people, you never know how many people have kills

you are wrong, get it through your head
why would I lie in death

people of the town, do not be swayed by anything Meme says, kill her as she requested tomorrow morning
I have died for the town, but I hope my death does not go in vain

[Stewie]

I have trouble believing your role, but that doesn't matter anymore.

I can't tell you I will lynch MeMe tomorrow, but I'll take a hard look at her (if you aren't scum).

[Dmi]

Meme, the fact you want an innocent man dead so badly makes you a bad player, even if you're innocent, who wants a townie that makes the town look like scum?

But are you? And whyd you not give your full claim from the start?
Looks like a story being improvised.

[MeMe]

I hope FD posts your scene soon so you'll shut up...but I'll address your points as long as you keep talking, just so no one gets confused.

Meme, the fact you want an innocent man dead so badly makes you a bad player, even if you're innocent, who wants a townie that makes the town look like scum?

For someone who believes that repeatedly saying that looking scummy is just his play style, this is one ridiculous comment. I don't want an innocent person dead, I want the person I know is

lying

dead. If you're telling the truth, then FD has screwed up spectacularly since 1) I wasn't blocked and 2) I got no notice of snow. I'm pretty sure that neither of those is the case and you're lying, desperate scum who wants me dead -- and is, by your own statement a "bad player" for wanting that.

also, we don't know if there's more than one mafia, even with 12 people, you never know how many people have kills

I'm not sure what you mean here...but I'll tackle three of the possible meanings:
1) If you're saying there might only be one killing group -- there were two kills last night...so, you'd be wrong.
2) If you're saying that there might be a mafia group comprised of just one member -- that's even sillier, since that's called an SK, not mafia; and if there was, for some weird reason, a mafia group with just one member, you'd have to be absolutely convinced I'm innocent because you say you blocked me.
3) If you're saying that there might be 3 killing groups -- well, this is a mini and that's ridiculous.

you are wrong, get it through your head
why would I lie in death

Cute that you're trying to capitalize on something I pointed out is true of you...

But, um...as I said in my last post, I think it may be possible it takes more than 6 votes to kill you OR you might be hoping that FD allows unvotes. You lied in life, why

not

lie in death?

people of the town, do not be swayed by anything Meme says, kill her as she requested tomorrow morning
I have died for the town, but I hope my death does not go in vain

Let me just put aside what I know for a moment and pretend that there's a possibility you're innocent...and I'll ask you to answer these questions:

1) Why did you FOS me for a "weird playing style" earlier in the day when you should have, since you blocked me, considered me fairly cleared?
2) How do you explain me coming out against you when it would've been smarter for a guilty person to confirm your story?
3) Do you honestly believe it's better for the town to kill me tomorrow than to try for one of the people who committed a murder last night?
4) Why did you apologize to me for blocking me?
5) What drove you to admit that your role can be a killing one?
6) How can you be absolutely convinced that I'm scum?

Entertain me.

[Crola]

ok, here's my response
In most games I've watch you in MeMe, people follow your word no matter what, (I've seen this with other experienced people too, like Jeep)
when they speak out against you they get lynched, hence my not voting of you yet
also, even if your scum and you're voting town, the town might still follow you
I did not tell you my full role before because you'd think I'd be making it up and then really lynch me, so I said the part of my role everyone would believe
then thinking I was dead, I'm pretty sure I should be too, I revealed my whole role
Meme, when I warned you, FD doesn't say "Crola just warned you that snow's coming your way"
it just plays through like a normal role block
also, even if you are mafia, it doesn't mean that you were the member of the mafia making the kill that night
only one goon or the godfather makes the kill
I could have block a mafia being idle that night
you have just as much chance as being mafithen anyone else

[Fuldu]

But Crola, we had two kills last night. Why would you think your having blocked MeMe was indicative that she's scum?

[MeMe]

You've still not even attempted to answer nos. 2, 3, & 4.

And your explanation that you've watched me be followed "in most games" implies that you should have known that I have no qualms about going hard after scummy behavior -- but earlier in the game you pretended that you had no idea if my actions were normal for me or not...accusing me of being particularly malicious, etc.

Where the heck is FD?

[Crola]

the apology was a gesture of kindness, something rarely every seen
why would someone guilty confirm my story if I'm town?
and as I said before let's say there's 3 mafia, X is the godfather, Yand Z are goons
let's say Meme is the godfather, she tells Y to kill W let's say
Crola role blocks Meme, the kill still occurs
this answers 2,3, & 4 (not in order)
so for all we know, you may have issued the kill but didn't comit the crime

anyway, the reason I want you lynched is because you were absolutely positive I am Scum you bet your life
yet now all of the sudden, you don't want the town to lynch you tomorrow
I am innocent, you told the town to kill me, you said that if I'm innocent the town should kill you
I think you should kepp your promise
now, you might say, why would mafia bet their life on someone they know is innocent
simple, you're Meme, people will think you just made a mistake

Stewie even said he wasn't sure if he'd lynch you tomorrow
even though I'm innocent and you killed me, and you said you wanted to be lynched when it turns out I'm innocent, I guarantee you, that some people will be very hesitant to vote you

you called me a liar, that stung considering I told the truth
I think the real liar should be killed here, and that would be you Meme
you said I didn't block you, but I did, you LIED about that

Unvote Vote Meme

Incase I am still alive somehow

[Dmi]

You're dead. As soon as FD arrives you'll be hanging from a tree.

And mafia isn't a game for the senstitive. Mudslinging's allowed.

Come on. Give it up. Or at least capitalize your sentences.