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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:22 am
by Pinky and the Brain
mb53 wrote: Why aren't you attacking ODM for posting
the exact same thing
that I did?
"oh well he did it too" *walks off*

blatant mudslinging there

"look, they did it too" = scum tell.

VOTE: mb53
Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:Cough basically people who are RADICAL are heavily investigated but the silent guys get away with it all, I want to make everyone a Radical.
This post makes no sense to me whatsoever. Why cough? What do you mean by radical?
If it wasn't for mb53's Tu Quoque then you'd have my vote right now. Talk sense or we'll reconsider

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:34 am
by Pinky and the Brain
ebwop: above post was by twistedspoon

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:37 am
by DarlaBlueEyes
sorry guys my PC decided to kill itself so I can only get on from my phone or friend's laptop until me recovery discs get here. please to bear with me. You know. if I haven't already become the d1 sacrificial lamb. I see you people votin me with no real reason. OPPORTUNISTIC BASTARDS!!!!1 No, really. I'll come on from the laptop later and read / reply.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:44 am
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
Pinky and the Brain wrote:
mb53 wrote: Why aren't you attacking ODM for posting
the exact same thing
that I did?
"oh well he did it too" *walks off*

blatant mudslinging there

"look, they did it too" = scum tell.

VOTE: mb53
Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:Cough basically people who are RADICAL are heavily investigated but the silent guys get away with it all, I want to make everyone a Radical.
This post makes no sense to me whatsoever. Why cough? What do you mean by radical?
If it wasn't for mb53's Tu Quoque then you'd have my vote right now. Talk sense or we'll reconsider
Yes, but his "Look they did it too" was valid. After I saw mb's question, I myself wondered why I hadn't been called out for doing the same thing.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:45 am
by Dekes
Page 5 already? Why isn't Master Hand hammered yet?
DTMaster wrote:Surprise hammer: The Master Hand Because Andruis is a threat to me >:>. See you D2.
:lol:

And look at all the lurkers immediately coming out of their holes. Whoever said this was a useless gambit, I disagree. It was a great way to kickstart us out of RVS - even if not everybody realized that.

The Lelouch wagon is completely boring. I'll let you guys handle it, I've got a town read on him already. Though he needs death regardless, the noise level is unbearable.

Why is there every fucking time a discussion about nameclaiming day 1?

unvote; Vote: mb53


Esu is a good vote as well. Might have to take a look into the LotR Mini D1 again.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:56 am
by mb53
"oh well he did it too" *walks off*

blatant mudslinging there

"look, they did it too" = scum tell.

VOTE: mb53
No. I defended my reasons for why I think lelouch is town. Asking why someone was attacking me, and ignoring someone else for the exact same thing (along with defending myself)
is not scummy
.

Terrible cases are terrible. And scummy.
Vote: Pinky and the Brain


Want to give a reason with that vote, dekes?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:00 am
by Dekes
Nah, everything I could add would be nothing but repetition.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:01 am
by lewarcher82
Since I did it for myself (a lot happened in 3 pages), I think I can just share it:

Unofficial votecountDarlaBlueEyes - 6 - Tragedy, Pinky and the Brain, DTMaster GhostWriter, Espeonage, ObliviousDruidMuncher (L-5)
The Master Hand - 2 - RedCoyote, DTMaster (L-9)
ObliviousDruidMuncher - 2 - thil13, danakillsu, (L-9)
RedCoyote - 1 - DarlaBlueEyes (L-10)
Lelouch VI Britannia - 4 - The Master Hand, lewarcher82, esuriospiritus, CSL (L-7)
Crazypianist - 2 - Ashblade, Lelouch VI Britannia (L-9)
Tragedy - 1 - Crazypianist (L-10)
Ghostwriter - 1 - Lucresia (L-10)
mb53 - 1 - Dekes (L-10)
Pinky&tB - 1 - mb53 (L-10)


@Dekes: you are right, discussing nameclaiming d1 is ridiculous. And a propos nameclaiming: I have been in 3 or 4 theme games before, and as far as I recall scum always get fake names and sometimes even fake roles. Whoever proposed the nameclaim must be kidding, or is mafia willing to look town.

on the gambit: it was a way like any other to end the RVS.

@the Darla-voters: can I please have a summary of your case on her?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:02 am
by Tragedy
Darla vote was a RVS vote. Yeah, I hated the way Darla won in the Simpsons Mafia.. -_-

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:03 am
by mb53
(P&tB is voting me, not darla)

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:03 am
by GhostWriter
Sure. About the same time I get a summary of your case on Lelouch.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:05 am
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
lewarcher82 wrote:Since I did it for myself (a lot happened in 3 pages), I think I can just share it:

Unofficial votecountDarlaBlueEyes - 5 - Tragedy, DTMaster GhostWriter, Espeonage, ObliviousDruidMuncher (L-6)
Lelouch VI Britannia - 4 - The Master Hand, lewarcher82, esuriospiritus, CSL (L-7)
The Master Hand - 2 - RedCoyote, DTMaster (L-9)
ObliviousDruidMuncher - 2 - thil13, danakillsu, (L-9)
mb53 - 2 - Dekes, Pinky and the Brain, (L-9)
RedCoyote - 1 - DarlaBlueEyes (L-10)
Crazypianist - 2 - Ashblade, Lelouch VI Britannia (L-9)
Tragedy - 1 - Crazypianist (L-10)
Ghostwriter - 1 - Lucresia (L-10)
Pinky&tB - 1 - mb53 (L-10)


@Dekes: you are right, discussing nameclaiming d1 is ridiculous. And a propos nameclaiming: I have been in 3 or 4 theme games before, and as far as I recall scum always get fake names and sometimes even fake roles. Whoever proposed the nameclaim must be kidding, or is mafia willing to look town.

on the gambit: it was a way like any other to end the RVS.

@the Darla-voters: can I please have a summary of your case on her?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:08 am
by Dekes
You sure are of the helping kind, ODM.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:10 am
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
lewarcher wrote:@the Darla-voters: can I please have a summary of your case on her?
DarlaBlueEyes wrote:LOVE YOU ALL TOO, REALLY. LAWL. I so awesome getting a bad rep already ;D

vote red coyote
because Austin is NOT Texas.

Also what the hell @ the Surprise Hammer???? Do we need like hammer-time music going now or what?

Dekes wrote: You sure are of the helping kind, ODM.
If that was sarcasm, the reason I did that was to correct it if you cared to notice. If not, then yes, I am indeed.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:11 am
by Pinky and the Brain
mb53 wrote: Terrible cases are terrible. And scummy.
Vote: Pinky and the Brain

and omgus isn't?

i digress. My vote says all i need to

Dekes wrote: The Lelouch wagon is completely boring. I'll let you guys handle it
gives me bad vibes

so you're not scumhunting with us because it's boring? Just because a player is boring it doesn't mean they aren't scum, no?
your passiveness neglects town's strongest weapon; their opinions.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:14 am
by mb53
Not OMGUS. If you made that kind of crap case on anyone I would vote for you.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:16 am
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
Pinky wrote:so you're not scumhunting with us because it's boring? Just because a player is boring it doesn't mean they aren't scum, no?
your passiveness neglects town's strongest weapon; their opinions.
It came across pretty clear that he didn't mean scumhunting on Lelouch or Lelouch himself was boring (if you think Lelouch is boring, you haven't read the first 5 pages), but that he thought the case on him was boring -_-

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:18 am
by Pinky and the Brain
ObliviousDruidMuncher wrote:but that he thought the case on him was boring -_-
so we can disregard all of the boring cases?

"their case is too boring to be scum. you sort it out"

~TS

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:26 am
by Dekes
Pinky and the Brain wrote:
Dekes wrote: The Lelouch wagon is completely boring. I'll let you guys handle it
gives me bad vibes

so you're not scumhunting with us because it's boring? Just because a player is boring it doesn't mean they aren't scum, no?
your passiveness neglects town's strongest weapon; their opinions.
Hahaha, best snip ever. Cut off right before my
opinions
. I've been pretty clear about the reads I've given so far.
And the case is boring to me, because I have a town read on Lelouch. Everything clear now? But you're feisty enough, you're probably town.

@ODM
I did notice the changes you made but I didn't thought it was necessary really. Though now it did make me realize Darla's the biggest wagon so far. Based on her initial post, right? Mh, I'm not objecting the wagon, but she'll enter into heavy lurk modus regardless of alignment. And hey, she even announced it, how nice of her. Makes wonderful vig bait as well.

@mb53
Why did you stop responding to esurio and skipped right over to engaging PatB? It seems to me as if esurio is the one who first started to build up the case on you.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:30 am
by Espeonage
LVB is town.

If you take the time to read his posts he is actually posting some tidbits of relevent IoA, which is his way of trying to show he isn't a VI scum as everyone else seems to think. idk, comes across as townie who is unused to the playstyle here.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:31 am
by mb53
dekes wrote:@mb53
Why did you stop responding to esurio and skipped right over to engaging PatB? It seems to me as if esurio is the one who first started to build up the case on you.
There was nothing else I felt I needed to respond to.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:00 pm
by The Master Hand
ObliviousDruidMuncher wrote: @Hand: Who are you referring to in your rant at the end of this post?
Lelouch.
ObliviousDruidMuncher wrote:On a side note, whenever I see Andrius sign his posts "The Baker", I think of a mafia baker sitting there rolling dough with flower all over him and just staring me down :eek:
Also, another idea, if the hydra is scum, make one hydra head sign as the other and vice-versa to fuck with people's meta of them.
This is odd. Are you accusing us of doing this? Not sure if its a suggestion for mafia (scummy) or an announcement of suspicion.
Espeonage wrote:LVB is town.
If you take the time to read his posts he is actually posting some tidbits of relevent IoA, which is his way of trying to show he isn't a VI scum as everyone else seems to think. idk, comes across as townie who is unused to the playstyle here.
LVB is obvdumb, and can be scum. I don't see any relevance in his posts, sorry.
Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:OH I REMEMBER A BIT MORE NOW! I was saying that I am fucking with the Mafia Mentally and hope to make them Panic haha! BY acting scummy they shouldn't kill me but because I look scummy I may get lynched THUS the reason I wont be killed BUT the SMART Mafia would kill me and say they framed him, anyway point is I am fucking with all of you to gauge whats up. >:)
Why are you revealing your alleged strategy?
+WIFOM; Preferring to get lynched over being NK'd is bad. Getting lynched means town thought you were scum, and then scum gets an advantage over us.
You should only be fucking with scum.

-Toast

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:22 pm
by CryMeARiver
TheMasterHand wrote:
ObliviousDruidMuncher wrote:On a side note, whenever I see Andrius sign his posts "The Baker", I think of a mafia baker sitting there rolling dough with flower all over him and just staring me down :eek:
Also, another idea, if the hydra is scum, make one hydra head sign as the other and vice-versa to fuck with people's meta of them.
This is odd. Are you accusing us of doing this? Not sure if its a suggestion for mafia (scummy) or an announcement of suspicion.
I was adding on to this that I had in my previous post for future hydra ideas:
Oblivious wrote:Also, I thought of a good future hydra idea. One half of the hydra reads the role PM and discusses the game with the other hydra in a QT. The other hydra head makes posts in the game without knowing their own role. Just throwing that out there for the future.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:23 pm
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
CryMeARiver wrote:
TheMasterHand wrote:
ObliviousDruidMuncher wrote:On a side note, whenever I see Andrius sign his posts "The Baker", I think of a mafia baker sitting there rolling dough with flower all over him and just staring me down :eek:
Also, another idea, if the hydra is scum, make one hydra head sign as the other and vice-versa to fuck with people's meta of them.
This is odd. Are you accusing us of doing this? Not sure if its a suggestion for mafia (scummy) or an announcement of suspicion.
I was adding on to this that I had in my previous post for future hydra ideas:
Oblivious wrote:Also, I thought of a good future hydra idea. One half of the hydra reads the role PM and discusses the game with the other hydra in a QT. The other hydra head makes posts in the game without knowing their own role. Just throwing that out there for the future.
Damnit -_-

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:21 pm
by esuriospiritus
Meh, people are overblowing the case on mb53 imo, which waaaaaay lessens my confidence in my suspicions on him. I think the "why didn't you say anything about
him
doing what I did" was a legitimate question that deserved a legitimate answer (since I don't think he understood what I was attacking him most for, and to be fair I don't think I was very clear about it in my initial post against him). I also think he's handled the sudden extra votes on him in the way I'd expect a townie to - analyzing the votes on his own wagon, calling out flimsy cases.

PatB's case just looks like he was skimming, or looking at posts out-of-context or something. (Again, I think the "why didn't you say anything about him doing that" was a legit question given hindsight and context, assuming he thought I was putting emphasis on his non-suspicion of Lelouch when in fact I was putting emphasis on his "RVSing for the reactions" thing). Dekes didn't even
give
a reason (and can't even claim to be doing anything other than sheeping on PatB's case, since he thinks Lelouch is town and I'm "a good vote").

The only thing that still stands against him in my mind is the "I was still RVSing for the reactions" bit. Which is still obv bad since it was my reason for calling him out like I did in the first place, but definitely not bad enough for me to switch my vote especially given my read on the people who've jumped on him since calling him out.

Meanwhile, Lelouch is still scum and I am
not
moving my vote from him under any circumstances. I'm planning on revealing why, exactly, sometime in the next day or two... but in the meantime, know I am 95% sure of my vote which isn't generally the kind of thing I say lightly.