Communication Breakdown 2 - Mini 1255 (GAME)

[Parama]

Notable role PMs:

Zajnet

, you are a

hackhackers.net Neighbor

.
Your partner in crime is

Pine

, who is a

hackhackers.net Hacker

.

You have the ability to chat with other players, and the ability to vote in the silent chat lobby.

In addition, each night you may ban one player from genericchat.net.
You may also discuss in private with your neighbor,

Packbat

.

Here are all chat rooms available to you:
With

kunkstar7

,

Pine

, and

Ghostlin

:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/MnACCwvLJka
With

GreyICE

,

Glass

, and

Packbat

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/d69swahNKtT
With

DemonHybrid

,

Nocmen

, and

implosion

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iCirh7KwZa5DF
With

Lady Lambdadelta

,

GhostWriter

, and

Shadow Dancer

:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/VJx5TdxFm67d

With your neighbor: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/i6D4FwbmBDa
With your fellow hacker: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/2pvWqnPXCpfnX

The chat lobby is HERE.

You win when there are more hackhackers.net Hackers than Users, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by PM with a paraphrase of your role abilities. You may speak in your chat rooms during pregame.

Pine

, you are a

hackhackers.net Hacker

.
Your partner in crime is

Zajnet

, who is a

hackhackers.net Neighbor

.

You have the ability to chat with other players, and the ability to vote in the silent chat lobby.

In addition, each night you may ban one player from genericchat.net.

Here are all chat rooms available to you:
With

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Nocmen

, and

Glass

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/vnWz4NhHMYk
With

implosion

,

GreyICE

, and

GhostWriter

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/FH64HixJVdg
With

DemonHybrid

,

Shadow Dancer

, and

Packbat

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/au853rsZWBTS
With

kunkstar7

,

Zajnet

, and

Ghostlin

:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/MnACCwvLJka

With your fellow hacker: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/2pvWqnPXCpfnX

The chat lobby is HERE.

You win when there are more hackhackers.net Hackers than Users, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by PM with a paraphrase of your role abilities. You may speak in your chat rooms during pregame.

Packbat

, you are a

genericchat.net Neighbor

.
Your partner in crime is

implosion

, who is a

genericchat.net Hacker

.

You have the ability to chat with other players, and the ability to vote in the silent chat lobby.

In addition, each night you may ban one player from genericchat.net.
You may also discuss in private with your neighbor,

Zajnet

.

Here are all chat rooms available to you:
With

GreyICE

,

Glass

, and

Zajnet

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/d69swahNKtT
With

Implosion

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, and

Ghostlin

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/ms5fpJMAWAF
With

DemonHybrid

,

Shadow Dancer

, and

Pine

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/au853rsZWBTS
With

kunkstar7

,

Nocmen

, and

GhostWriter

:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/mCceQvJx7TX7

With your neighbor: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/i6D4FwbmBDa
With your fellow hacker: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/gGsuTUwu9ccU

The chat lobby is HERE.

You win when there are more genericchat.net Hackers than Users, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by PM with a paraphrase of your role abilities. You may speak in your chat rooms during pregame.

implosion

, you are a

genericchat.net Hacker

.
Your partner in crime is

Packbat

, who is a

genericchat.net Neighbor

.

You have the ability to chat with other players, and the ability to vote in the silent chat lobby.

In addition, each night you may ban one player from genericchat.net.

Here are all chat rooms available to you:
With

Pine

,

GreyICE

, and

GhostWriter

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/FH64HixJVdg
With

Packbat

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, and

Ghostlin

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/ms5fpJMAWAF
With

DemonHybrid

,

Nocmen

, and

Zajnet

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iCirh7KwZa5DF
With

kunkstar7

,

Shadow Dancer

, and

Glass

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/LYypYjT4g7N

With your fellow hacker: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/gGsuTUwu9ccU

The chat lobby is HERE.

You win when there are more genericchat.net Hackers than Users, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Confirm by PM with a paraphrase of your role abilities. You may speak in your chat rooms during pregame.

kunkstar7

, you are a

hackchat.net Observer

.

You have the ability to chat with other players, and the ability to vote in the silent chat lobby.

In addition, you may observe one player’s address each night. If they are visited another User that night, you will learn who visited them.

Here are all chat rooms available to you:
With

Pine

,

Zajnet

, and

Ghostlin

:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/MnACCwvLJka
With

Packbat

,

Nocmen

, and

GhostWriter

:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/mCceQvJx7TX7
With

implosion

,

Shadow Dancer

, and

Glass

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/LYypYjT4g7N
With

DemonHybrid

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, and

GreyICE

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/3eGd8sQUkFgF

The chat lobby is HERE.

You win when there are no threats to hackchat.net remaining.

Confirm by PM with a paraphrase of your role abilities. You may speak in your chat rooms during pregame.

Nocmen

, you are a

hackchat.net Half-Mod

.

You have the ability to chat with other players, and the ability to vote in the silent chat lobby.

In addition, you may check one player’s IP each night to see if they’re a legitimate hackchat.net user or a hacker from another site.

Here are all chat rooms available to you:
With

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Pine

, and

Glass

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/vnWz4NhHMYk
With

kunkstar7

,

Packbat

, and

GhostWriter

:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/mCceQvJx7TX7
With

DemonHybrid

,

implosion

, and

Zajnet

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iCirh7KwZa5DF
With

GreyICE

,

Shadow Dancer

, and

Ghostlin

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/cqLLWPZC69Qn

The chat lobby is HERE.

You win when there are no threats to hackchat.net remaining.

Confirm by PM with a paraphrase of your role abilities. You may speak in your chat rooms during pregame.

Glass

, you are a

hackchat.net Back-up Mod

.

You have the ability to chat with other players, and the ability to vote in the silent chat lobby.

In addition, if an empowered user were to be banned, you will inherit their role. You will lose this ability and gain their ability instead.

Here are all chat rooms available to you:
With

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Nocmen

, and

Pine

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/vnWz4NhHMYk
With

GreyICE

,

Packbat

, and

Zajnet

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/d69swahNKtT
With

DemonHybrid

,

Ghostlin

, and

GhostWriter

:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/yA5UxKbHyDXC
With

kunkstar7

,

Shadow Dancer

, and

implosion

: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/LYypYjT4g7N

The chat lobby is HERE.

You win when there are no threats to hackchat.net remaining.

Confirm by PM with a paraphrase of your role abilities. You may speak in your chat rooms during pregame.

Dead QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/ZWqRcmNuGG3yt

Night actions:

Night 1:
kunkstar7 watches GreyICE - Result: Nobody visits GreyICE.
Nocmen investigates Espeonage - Result: Espeonage is not from hackchat.net.

Zajnet bans DemonHybrid
implosion bans Ghostlin

Night 2:
Nocmen investigates Glass - Result: Glass is from hackchat.net.
kunkstar7 watches Lady Lambdadelta - Result: Nobody visited Lady Lambdadelta.

Packbat bans GhostWriter
Zajnet bans GhostWriter

Night 3:
kunkstar7 watches Nocmen - Result: No one visited Nocmen.
Nocmen investigates Lady Lamdadelta - Result: LLD is from hackchat.net.

Packbat bans Lady Lambdadelta
Zajnet bans Lady Lambdadelta

Chatrooms:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/LYypYjT4g7N
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/ms5fpJMAWAF
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iCirh7KwZa5DF
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/mCceQvJx7TX7
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/vnWz4NhHMYk
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/d69swahNKtT
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/MnACCwvLJka
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/VJx5TdxFm67d
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/3eGd8sQUkFgF
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/au853rsZWBTS
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/FH64HixJVdg
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/yA5UxKbHyDXC
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/cqLLWPZC69Qn

Mod comments:
Yes, Nocmen didn't out his N1 guilty until D3 <_<
Scum killing the same player twice was one of the few lucky breaks town got; though maybe not so much as it prevented crosskills.
No town PRs died before endgame. Wow.

[Pine]

Nice, Implosion. You had me completely fooled. Packbat was immediately obv to me, but managed not to get lynched. Kudos to both.

I need to stop replacing into Espeonage's scummy slots with cop guilties on me

Don't sweat it, Zajnet. I wasn't much help.

[implosion]

Pretty much. Packbat and I had the benefit of knowing that it was 2:2:9, and having good reason to believe that Zajnet was the other hackhackers scum.

Also, I knew that nocmen was a cop a long time ago. And that kunkstar was a watcher from massclaim on. Because they were claimed in rooms with packbat in them :p.

Didn't expect glass to be a backup.

[Parama]

Also, the Pack-Implosion scumteam scumslipped almost immediately, and I'm surprised nobody picked up on it. (Go find it for yourself; it'll be obviouss if you see them talking about it in their mafia QT)

[implosion]

Wow... both single-kills were same-target kills. That's kind of hilarious.

[DemonHybrid]

Cool. Two scumteams. How did I know I was going to lose this

[Zajnet]

Pine and I thought it was Pack and Glass, but I knew it was Pack and implo after the massclaim.

The coordination of the massclaim was impressive. I was never told by anyone that kunk was anything other than VT, and Glass a doc.

By the way, Mod royally screwed up in the role PMs to the 4 scum players, but I didn't catch it until now.

[Zajnet]

Also, the Pack-Implosion scumteam scumslipped almost immediately, and I'm surprised nobody picked up on it. (Go find it for yourself; it'll be obviouss if you see them talking about it in their mafia QT)

I noticed that, but I assumed it came from his QT with implo, and not their QT.

/facepalm

[Parama]

What did I screw up? :I

[implosion]

Huh. You may ban one player from genericchat.net... probably a leftover from the first one.

The coordination of the massclaim was impressive. I was never told by anyone that kunk was anything other than VT, and Glass a doc.

This is kind of funny...

kunkstar7 just proposed a roleblocker.

This is the most dysfunctional massclaim ever.

It was kind of a failmassclaim to us, because... first of all, kunk's watcher claim contradicted glass's doctor claim. Second, I knew a bunch of stuff that I wasn't supposed to know.

[Parama]

Oh, derp. Yeah, I ctrl+c'ed a lot of these role PMs. Most of them, in fact.

[Parama]

For those not in the know:
in CB1, town was genericchat.net, and the hackers took over (scum won) and turned it into hackchat.net.

[implosion]

For those not in the know:
in CB1, town was genericchat.net, and the hackers took over (scum won) and turned it into hackchat.net.

Viva la revolucion!

[Pine]

Damn, they did slip big. Too bad no one noticed.

[Packbat]

Check out the #generichack chatroom, our scum chat, after that scumslip. Schadenfreude fans should approve.

Zajnet, I think you beat yourself up too much - I had a genuine townread on you for the first two days. It wasn't until the Pine lynch that my read turned around.

Pine: why was I obvscum?

[Zajnet]

/facepalm

There are so many things I did wrong this game.

I should have caught the role PM slip and been sure of a 2:2:9 setup, and that would have led me to push a lynch on Packbat much earlier.

I should have realized that Packbat scumslipped; I even noticed the issue and just assumed that it was from another room.

What I should have done the most was claim scum on the last day, and get Packbat lynched, since lynching me = scum win.

[Parama]

what is the "role PM slip", Zaj?

I'm still confused... I think it's the genericchat.net thing but that doesn't imply 2 scumteams.

[Zajnet]

Yeah, the genericchat.net thing. If I had noticed it, I would have known it was two scumteams, especially since I already thought it was 2:2:9. I wouldn't have been able to use it because it would confirm me as scum too lol, but it would have been cool to know.

I'm really mad at myself for how terribly I played starting Day 3 though. Proof that I'm terrible as scum, sigh...

[Packbat]

Oh my god, I just read up to #43 in the dead thread. It's funny 'cuz it's true...

Also, nightkill motivations were pretty simple: Ghostlin and GhostWriter were both players I (a) thought would be dangerous in a scumhunting way and (b) thought looked towny, and Lady Lambdadelta was dangerous because of the scumslip.

Pre-Edit: I don't think the role-PM thing has any effect - genericchat.net was the chatroom from the previous Communication Breakdown, so it seems like a recycled-PM problem rather than a mod-slip. And I say this as a player who won a game via mod-slip.

[implosion]

The role pm mistake wouldn't imply 2 scumteams if parama clarified that it was a C/P mistake from the last game.

And I just read the entire dead thread and got reminded of Nocmen's greatest post in history.

Zajnet: Hey nocmen, answer my questions.

Nocmen: no. maybe for implosion.

[Glass]

I knew there were two scumteams and that imp+zaj were scum. Didnt know between pack/kunk, was actually hoping for 2-1.
Shame noone caught that scumslip. <_<;

[Glass]

and reagrding my claim:

I considered the "need crosskill" possibility, but since kunk claimed VT in my chatroom with him I fugured that if I didnt claim doc they would focus down noc anyways.

[Pine]

Check out the #generichack chatroom, our scum chat, after that scumslip. Schadenfreude fans should approve.

Zajnet, I think you beat yourself up too much - I had a genuine townread on you for the first two days. It wasn't until the Pine lynch that my read turned around.

Pine: why was I obvscum?

I stated my case on you in Eta, Nu, and Kappa. There was a strong amount of gut, and some meta-certainty that Parama would put two scum in Neighbor chats.

[Glass]

And the not claiming guilty is =/

[Nocmen]

Damn. I just wasn't sure what was going on with the two teams or not.

I didn't see Pack as scum, I trusted him over kunk.

And I was a complete dumbass with my guilty D2. Holy shit. Funny reading the dead thread.