↑Glork wrote:If you look at his interactions with Tierce yesterday, while he got a bit mixed up, his words ring very genuine. He's def a gobbo on our team. :V
I have NO idea why people are making a HUGE FUCKING DEAL about "Glork called Pizza town," when there are players who aren't posting or haven't contriubted (inte, Malee), players who have said/done patently scummy things (Ghostlin), and SEVERAL other things players have said about each other.
Experience tells me that Pizza's posts don't come from a scum mindset. That is ALL that I am going to say on the matter. Now please focus on finding scum and not "why is Glork calling Pizza protown."
GHOSTLIN: What do you think of inte? Why aren't you making more of an effort to discern HIS alignment? What do you think of Malee? Why have you BARELY SAID A WORD about either of these players instead of making false statements about Glork's play because you CAN'T BE FUCKING ARSED TO READ HIS POSTS?
funny how i read this as "oh my god dont scrutinize me im town, lookat people who are obviously more scummy than me!"
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:23 am
by inte
VOTE: glork
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:14 pm
by Pizzadudes7
Pizzadudes has fixed the problem and feels good knowing that he can contribute once again.
@inte: I read that the same way, but that seems more like an OMGUS vote than anything else.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:18 pm
by Ghostlin
↑PeregrineV wrote:It's not that hard really. Lying as town is bad. It triggers the distrust instinct.However, if you actually caught scum (see the link to the Newbie game), then I'm willing to forgive.In this case, I think your LYING (still a bad idea, it triggers the distrust instinct) may have caught Ghostlin in his reaction to you (see link to the Newbie game).However, because you don't have a real result, this is all based on play- yours and Ghostlin's. Right now, his bad reaction (see link) outweighs your lying.
Still not a 1v1: your entire premise is based on two things, Tierce's bluff, which could still be entirely Town motivated, and my 'bad' reaction.
I could of reacted poorly for a number of reasons. Tierce could of gambitted as Town. I've fucked up bigger things before, and I've seen worse gambits fail.
You had a funny way of spelling your own name. Let me get that for you:
Vote: inte
While I don't agree with Glork on really anything this game, I think he's mostly Town motivated. I'm saying I don't like his use of the word "genuine" as the driving force to describe a town read and the use of some bad logic. Besides my knee jerk reaction, I'm not spelling out that Glork's scum--I feel he could be mostly wrong about Pizza, and the fact that this is your first contribution in a while to the conversation makes me go .
↑PeregrineV wrote:It's not that hard really. Lying as town is bad. It triggers the distrust instinct.However, if you actually caught scum (see the link to the Newbie game), then I'm willing to forgive.In this case, I think your LYING (still a bad idea, it triggers the distrust instinct) may have caught Ghostlin in his reaction to you (see link to the Newbie game).However, because you don't have a real result, this is all based on play- yours and Ghostlin's. Right now, his bad reaction (see link) outweighs your lying.
Still not a 1v1: your entire premise is based on two things, Tierce's bluff, which could still be entirely Town motivated, and my 'bad' reaction.
I could of reacted poorly for a number of reasons. Tierce could of gambitted as Town. I've fucked up bigger things before, and I've seen worse gambits fail.
Yup. Ghostlin is scum.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:02 pm
by Dazzy
I disagree with inte's analysis of glork, as well as his vote. I think that inte (and subsequently pizza) are reaching a bit there.
I'm ok with Ghost's latest vote, but still not quite sure where I stand on his alignment. I've only ever seen calm, logical ghost before, so I'm a bit thrown by his play so far. Flustered scum is a possibility.
Apologies for the lack of posting lately, bit of a crazy period at school. To be completely honest, my lack of activity is also somewhat linked to the fact that the main people posting have been glork, tierce and ghost. Ghost I haven't been able to pin down, glork is obviously a higher-level player who I have a nullTown read on, and I'm not sure what to make of Tierce (leaning nullTown though). 'Tis a bit intimidating, but I'll do my best to keep my thoughts flowing. As soon as I have a bit more time I'll be taking a look at our new player (welcome, by the way), and try to look at a couple things from a different angle.
On that note,
@MOD: I will be LA this weekend, but should be able to atleast jump in to comment on current affairs.
I'll lay down a vote when I have a bit more to go on.
@Tierce: Forgive me, but could you expand on why that post specifically confirms your scumread of Ghost?
↑PeregrineV wrote:It's not that hard really. Lying as town is bad. It triggers the distrust instinct.However, if you actually caught scum (see the link to the Newbie game), then I'm willing to forgive.In this case, I think your LYING (still a bad idea, it triggers the distrust instinct) may have caught Ghostlin in his reaction to you (see link to the Newbie game).However, because you don't have a real result, this is all based on play- yours and Ghostlin's. Right now, his bad reaction (see link) outweighs your lying.
Still not a 1v1: your entire premise is based on two things, Tierce's bluff, which could still be entirely Town motivated, and my 'bad' reaction.
I could of reacted poorly for a number of reasons.
Tierce could of gambitted as Town. I've fucked up bigger things before, and I've seen worse gambits fail.
Yup. Ghostlin is scum.
@Dazzy:
Look at the underlined. Regardless of whatever Ghostlin think of PeregrineV's view of that "1v1", that does not make sense from a protown mindset, it's just WIFOMy goodness. Ghostlin is not explaining
why
he reacted poorly, he is saying he reacted poorly and leaving everyone to guess at the why.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:00 pm
by Slandaar
so intes scum too
hmmmmm
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:01 pm
by inte
bahaha
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:24 pm
by Slandaar
if someone can explain to me how the following people can be town that would be great
pv
inte
malee
Pizza is actually bottom of the scumlist now as these 3 are lolscum
PV WHO DID I THINK WAS SCUM I FORGETS? oh I cant be bothered to check im just gonna unvote and then vote ghostlin...
Inte Glork say I IZ TOWN LEAVE ME ALONE so he is scum!!!!
Malee I IZ LURKIN U NEVER CATCH ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:16 am
by StefanB
Well about Malee there will be somethink happening soon.
Mod: I request a pod on Malee
So let's see what happens. (Sorry reed the roles again)
inte inspecting now.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:33 am
by StefanB
Okay reread inte, I don't mind his dead, has he posted anythink usful all game?
Can definitly die, now I am waiting how Malee reacts...
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:41 am
by Slandaar
Stefan do you think Inte has done anything useful?
you did reread right?
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:13 am
by StefanB
Slaandar the question was more meaned retorical.
I did read his post, my head did hurt afterwards, was that usful?
1 or 2 posts looked like there could be somethink usful coming soon, I found nothink.
But an intewaggon is nice.
unvote
Vote: inte
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:43 am
by Malee
I actually have some technical difficulties to open the archive on page 1. It shows up as strange characters. Not really great to catch up like that ... :/
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:46 am
by Tierce
Male--did you unrar the file first? Can you get me a screenshot of what is happening?
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:18 am
by Malee
↑Tierce wrote:Male--did you unrar the file first? Can you get me a screenshot of what is happening?
Can you upload it again or see if it didn't got corrupted? I'll copy/paste as example
↑PeregrineV wrote:It's not that hard really. Lying as town is bad. It triggers the distrust instinct.However, if you actually caught scum (see the link to the Newbie game), then I'm willing to forgive.In this case, I think your LYING (still a bad idea, it triggers the distrust instinct) may have caught Ghostlin in his reaction to you (see link to the Newbie game).However, because you don't have a real result, this is all based on play- yours and Ghostlin's. Right now, his bad reaction (see link) outweighs your lying.
Still not a 1v1: your entire premise is based on two things, Tierce's bluff, which could still be entirely Town motivated, and my 'bad' reaction.
I could of reacted poorly for a number of reasons.
Tierce could of gambitted as Town. I've fucked up bigger things before, and I've seen worse gambits fail.
Yup. Ghostlin is scum.
@Dazzy:
Look at the underlined. Regardless of whatever Ghostlin think of PeregrineV's view of that "1v1", that does not make sense from a protown mindset, it's just WIFOMy goodness. Ghostlin is not explaining
why
he reacted poorly, he is saying he reacted poorly and leaving everyone to guess at the why.
No, I'm refuting the argument from a third party perspective. PV has set up a set of reasons to prove that either you or I are scum. I'm explaining to him the reasons why his assumption could be wrong. Since my reaction is subjective, Tierce--at the time I was going wtf because I couldn't believe scum would stick their neck out that far but you were so
obviously lying
from your difference of toal reaction Day 1, I was wondering what game you were playing at. You think I responded incorrectly according to your measuring stick. I think you're full of it using a reaction test as your primary basis. Neither of these make a 1v1 situtation.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:10 am
by Ghostlin
↑Slandaar wrote:if someone can explain to me how the following people can be town that would be great
pv
inte
malee
Pizza is actually bottom of the scumlist now as these 3 are lolscum
PV WHO DID I THINK WAS SCUM I FORGETS? oh I cant be bothered to check im just gonna unvote and then vote ghostlin...
Inte Glork say I IZ TOWN LEAVE ME ALONE so he is scum!!!!
Malee I IZ LURKIN U NEVER CATCH ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PV is trying to set up a 1v1 between me and Tierce. I'm debating if that makes his entire premise stupid or scummy.
Inte IS scum. There is no reason for him to attack Glork like that. I've already explained that.
Malee is lurking, but would still only be more of a PL than anything else.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:12 am
by Ghostlin
Also, kids, if you want further proof Tierce is town (or at the very least, not obv scummy), she's not jumped off the me wagon after PV's theory if I am Town, Tierce is scum.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:05 pm
by Johoohno
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:56 pm
by Tierce
I'm drunk. I'm also town. Don't expect anything coherent till I've worked the alcohol out of my system. >.>
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:52 pm
by Malee
↑Ghostlin wrote:Malee is lurking, but would still only be more of a PL than anything else.
I'm not lurking, but how do you expect me to catch up without the much needed information of Day1? Can't really work with what we got on Day2. So until It works again (can someone upload the file again please?), I'll not be able to post "content".
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