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good attempt at an OMGUS 5/10

everyone go vote derpy like your life depended on it

forgot i moved my vote

↑ inte wrote:

↑ Apple Jack wrote:you said you were sheeping pine because I had a bad reaction to my wagon. (which I don't feel I did)

but you sheeped pine

before

I had even posted in the game and than you pushed people to vote me

before

I even reacted to my wagon


so i will ask again, why are you trying to twist the truth?

I can link you to the posts if will help you remember

i didn't vote you because you had a bad reaction to your wagon. how can you have a bad reaction to a wagon before the wagon forms? i was the 3nd vote.

i sheeped pine because i wanted to, you fucktard.

you are the one twisting the truth, i never said i voted you because of your reaction

I realized what the issue is. It is your wording. the way you worded that sentence reads like your vote on me was because you were sheeping pine's reason of my bad reaction to my wagon.


the fact is you voted me for no reason, you pushed people to vote me for no reason, you claim my reaction was bad but don't really explain why it was so bad, and now when I attack you for your poorly worded sentence you tell everyone to lynch me.

I will strongly urge people to not lynch me, I am certainly going to prove myself useful as the day goes on, but how can I when I am being run up for no reason. how exactly is a person to react to a wagon based on nothing anyway?

If I have done something scummy in your mind, by all means make a case and I will gladly show you why you are wrong. The people who have claimed i have reacted badly need to actually explain why you think my reactions are bad.

If I do get lynched, I just hope I win the battle because I am most certainly not scum and I feel town will be at a disadvantage without me around.

Also I am not sure where you get that I am OMGUS'ing, because that is absolutely not true.

↑ Code_X wrote:Shotgun is no fool. With limited reveal claiming miller could easily be a ploy to stay alive until endgame, be ignored as such. I can see scum claiming it or I can see Shotgun telling the truth but in that case he needs to be proven worthwhile to stay alive and needs to be dead before lylo. In my opinion.

Ok, I see where you are coming from, and I personally think he should be allowed to prove his worth as a town player, but yeah, you make a good point.

I don't like either wagon. I'm getting serious town vibes from derpy in #102. I'm going to re-read everything tomorrow morning and give my thoughts then.

p.s Yikes, I didn't even realise there was a death miller. I thought all millers came up scum when they flipped. Colour me 'duh.

102 is towny.

UNVOTE: 1. Derpy Hooves

I will be re-reading when I get home tonight. I've tried to avoid playing on my phone but today I just couldn't help myself.

I have thoughts on the miller claims and other things as well.

↑ mafia-n00b wrote:

↑ PeregrineV wrote:Vote2: Derpy Hooves
Giving an in-thread in-game reason for voting during his RVS vote.

Sorry, I'm having trouble understanding what you mean.

RVS is voting someone for a "random" reason.

His reason for voting you was based on something you posted, thus more game-relevant than a "random" vote.

I think that the fights are setup so each gladiator has a rating and a set # of wins. The winner is the higher rated, unless you run out of wins, then you probably lose.

↑ Pine wrote:Gunny...I can't read him for shite. I've been stone cold certain he was scum and he flipped Town, and absolutely positive he was Town, only for him to flip scum. If that were intentional, I'd have respect for it, but he consistently has no idea what he's doing, and is a detriment to whatever side he's on. Definitely interested in a followup on Inte if Gunny flips scum.

So you can't read me "for shite", but would lynch me anyways just to see my flip?
When the fuck did I flip scum in of your games? Unless you read my previous games, I don't recall being scum in a game where you were in.
Provide links/evidences if you're gonna use this crap to lynch me without being certain of my alignment.
Your last sentence here shows that you are keen on my lynch?
And that my flip would lead to "followup on Inte"? What's your reason for that??
Am I that much expendable/dangerous a player that I would get lynched regardless of my alignment?
Should that be the case, you might as well have blacklisted me and avoided joining any of my games.

↑ Code_X wrote:

↑ Matias wrote:Code_X, what the hell is incentive for lynching a miller?

What's the incentive for not lynching one? You convince me why we should keep a miller alive. I sure as hell wouldn't want to deal with the problem in lylo. Would you?

Avoiding the question by returning it. Nice.

↑ Code_X wrote:Shotgun is no fool. With limited reveal claiming miller could easily be a ploy to stay alive until endgame, be ignored as such. I can see scum claiming it or I can see Shotgun telling the truth but in that case he needs to be proven worthwhile to stay alive and needs to be dead before lylo. In my opinion.

Oh same thing here like Pine's.
Am I Scum or am I expendable?
So I need to prove my worthwhile to survive? Wtf?
Would you like me to request for a replacement since I'm afraid that I may not prove my worthiness to you?
You were calling me Scum from the beginning (albeit RVS) and now you are saying I need to prove my "worthwhile".
Does that mean I was Scum for you from the beginning and may have change in alignment depending on what I do in this game?
How does that work?

↑ Code_X wrote:

↑ ActionDan wrote:

Let me curb the stupid before my eyes bleed.

How can you have an opinion like this, and yet not even know what a

miller

is? (I'll give you a hint: earlier you described a

Death

miller)

Guilty to cops. My bad that he ends up revealed as town not mafia - for some reason I was looking at the death miller on Wiki.

Either way I'm not happy about the shotgun spot.

Lol, why?

↑ Matias wrote:Code_X, what the hell is incentive for lynching a miller?

↑ Matias wrote:

Vote 1: Derpy Hooves

. Ponies...

Vote 2: drmyshotgun

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↑ drmyshotgun wrote:

↑ Code_X wrote:

↑ Matias wrote:Code_X, what the hell is incentive for lynching a miller?

What's the incentive for not lynching one? You convince me why we should keep a miller alive.

I sure as hell wouldn't want to deal with the problem in lylo.

Would you?

Avoiding the question by returning it. Nice.

Nope. I answered it. See bold.

↑ drmyshotgun wrote:

↑ Code_X wrote:Shotgun is no fool. With limited reveal claiming miller could easily be a ploy to stay alive until endgame, be ignored as such. I can see scum claiming it or I can see Shotgun telling the truth but in that case he needs to be proven worthwhile to stay alive and needs to be dead before lylo. In my opinion.

Oh same thing here like Pine's.
Am I Scum or am I expendable?
So I need to prove my worthwhile to survive? Wtf?
Would you like me to request for a replacement since I'm afraid that I may not prove my worthiness to you?
You were calling me Scum from the beginning (albeit RVS) and now you are saying I need to prove my "worthwhile".
Does that mean I was Scum for you from the beginning and may have change in alignment depending on what I do in this game?
How does that work?

Your not someone I want around at endgame. Are you expendable? If your acting scummy yes.

Having claimed miller (which you still haven't confirmed) you need to prove yourself worth keeping around for as long as possible, in my own opinion. Fortunately for you there are 13 of us so my little voice probably won't count for a lot.

I'd rather you didn't replace out based on whether you feel you'll be able to appear pro-town or not.

Your last two questions don't make any sense. What experience have you got of the role? How did you expect us to react?

↑ drmyshotgun wrote:

↑ Code_X wrote:

↑ ActionDan wrote:

Let me curb the stupid before my eyes bleed.

How can you have an opinion like this, and yet not even know what a

miller

is? (I'll give you a hint: earlier you described a

Death

miller)

Guilty to cops. My bad that he ends up revealed as town not mafia - for some reason I was looking at the death miller on Wiki.

Either way I'm not happy about the shotgun spot.

Lol, why?

See above.

Derpy Hooves: Matias, Pine, inte (L-4)
Inte: ActionDan, Derpy Hooves, PeregrineV (L-4)
mafia-n00b: D3f3nd3r, havingfitz (L-5)
Phillammon: Code_X (L-6)
Matias: Phillammon (L-6)
drmyshotgun: whispersilk (L-6)
Pine: drmyshotgun (L-6)

Not voting (1): mafia-n00b



drmyshotgun: Matias, Code_X, Pine, havingfitz, mafia-n00b (L-2)
Code_X: Derpy Hooves, drmyshotgun (L-5)
Pine: Phillammon, D3f3nd3r (L-5)
Derpy Hooves: whispersilk, PeregrineV (L-5)
havingfitz: ActionDan, inte (L-5)

Not voting (0):

Deadline is 6PM EST on July 12th

@ Shotgun - My reason for not wanting you around at endgame is purely based on your role claim and not your meta/playstyle. I like playing with you.

No offence intended

So you don't want me around at endgame? Uh-huh.

"Your last two questions don't make any sense. What experience have you got of the role? How did you expect us to react?"
Those two questions should make sense particularly to you.
You called me Scum from the get-go. You didn't say that I'm PL worthy player, but you chose to call me SCUM.
Now you are changing your story to me being someone you plainly don't want in this game.
And you speak as if you are going to spare my life or some shit if I prove my "worthiness"
Is there a fucking guideline for this shit?

I've claimed Miller because I am a Miller and ho ho ho. Who the fuck would laugh at my claim were it a joke?
Why do you even ask?

Your answer to not wanting to have a Miller at Lylo is funny.
You say you particularly don't want a Miller at lylo because it would be a problem.
Right now you are also saying that in particular is someone you don't want around at endgame.
Does this mean that you believe my claim?

↑ Code_X wrote:@ Shotgun - My reason for not wanting you around at endgame is purely based on your role claim and not your meta/playstyle. I like playing with you.

No offence intended

Didn't see this.
You wanted my lynch even before I claimed though. :/

Not sure if your being particularly obtuse or aggressive for a reason.

I don't want a miller around at lylo whether it's the best player on the site or the worst. As such regardless of who claims miller I don't want to be faced with situation. The player is irrelevant, the role is the problem. That is all.

I'm not going to go at you like crazy if I think your playing pro-town but at the minute you seem to be acting ultra-defensive over this.

Do I believe your claim? Well initially no - it felt like a joke. Now I'm not sure.

As for proving your worthiness. Why if your town, should you be concerned about this? You should be pro-actively trying to catch scum and then worrying about whether people think your worthy of staying alive. Based on your claim.


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Just seen your latest post. That was RVS. I don't agree with policy lynches. (Unless it's RedFF).

UNVOTE: 2. drmyshotgun

Yeah, I can see drmy being irritable town.

How about we see how a wagon on Pine goes? I'm not wild about his vote rationale in 72 and he needs to POST MOAR CONTENT.

VOTE: 2. Pine
VOTE: 1. PeregrineV

@PeregrineV: That's a pretty bogus rationale for a Derpy vote. I don't take Derpy's excuse for voting me as serious. I will often come up with "reasons" to vote someone in RVS that are tangentially game-related (i.e., "you confirmed last!") but are not genuinely serious. Besides, that's really only loosely "game-related" anyway.. it's about avatars.

1st regarding the miller claim, what shotty did is absolutely the right play. this would be the 2nd time I have played in a game where a scummy player rolled miller (played a game under beck where Parama was miller) and he also claimed in his first post. I do not advocate a d1 lynch of a miller, when we get to a point in the game where we are close to lylo and we have a ML left and he is still alive, we can discuss lynching him at that point but that is so far away.

2nd - Every single reason Code has given to try and lynch Shotty are horrible. First he attacks him for not posting when the game starts, than he wants to test the miller claim, but as fitz pointed out there is no point testing the claim day 1. If someone is so sure he is scum going into the night phase than hopefully we have a RB type role or maybe a watcher/tracker of some sort. but jesus let the man play the game without preconceived notions.

3rd - Inte, if you want people to join you on lynching me you are going to need to do more than "OMG CMON GUYS, LYNCH DERPY HE IS SCUM BECAUSE I SAY HE IS" I am quite torn though because your push on me is way over the top to come from somebody who is town, and I also doubt scum would put a target on their back like that either. If you are town, you need to explain why my reactions are scummy. It would also help if you explained why you went hardcore pushing on me early on without any reason whatsoever. so until you can do that, I will just leave my vote on you. and you can try and tap dance around it and accuse me of OMGUS, but it most certainly has nothing to do with OMGUS. Code is guilty of doing something similar and I am voting him.

I have to go now, kids bed time and quality time with the wife.

Quick reminder:

Game is limited reveal. Only the side of the dead player will be revealed.

We will never know if Shotgun is town or scum, unless Shotgun says if he is revealed town at death.

↑ Apple Jack wrote:1st regarding the miller claim, what shotty did is absolutely the right play. this would be the 2nd time I have played in a game where a scummy player rolled miller (played a game under beck where Parama was miller) and he also claimed in his first post. I do not advocate a d1 lynch of a miller, when we get to a point in the game where we are close to lylo and we have a ML left and he is still alive, we can discuss lynching him at that point but that is so far away.

2nd - Every single reason Code has given to try and lynch Shotty are horrible. First he attacks him for not posting when the game starts, than he wants to test the miller claim, but as fitz pointed out there is no point testing the claim day 1. If someone is so sure he is scum going into the night phase than hopefully we have a RB type role or maybe a watcher/tracker of some sort. but jesus let the man play the game without preconceived notions.

3rd - Inte, if you want people to join you on lynching me you are going to need to do more than "OMG CMON GUYS, LYNCH DERPY HE IS SCUM BECAUSE I SAY HE IS" I am quite torn though because your push on me is way over the top to come from somebody who is town, and I also doubt scum would put a target on their back like that either. If you are town, you need to explain why my reactions are scummy. It would also help if you explained why you went hardcore pushing on me early on without any reason whatsoever. so until you can do that, I will just leave my vote on you. and you can try and tap dance around it and accuse me of OMGUS, but it most certainly has nothing to do with OMGUS. Code is guilty of doing something similar and I am voting him.

I have to go now, kids bed time and quality time with the wife.

nah

Death Millers are strictly under the "bastard mod" heading, as they require the mod to lie to players. If chesskid replies that this is not strictly bastard mod, then Gunny is either Town Miller or scum.

↑ Pine wrote:

@Chesskid: Is this bastard mod? I forget

Death Millers are strictly under the "bastard mod" heading, as they require the mod to lie to players. If chesskid replies that this is not strictly bastard mod, then Gunny is either Town Miller or scum.

read the bottom of rule 7A, it's in big red font.

this is not bastard mod game

where is this rule that Death Millers are strictly bastard? I have never played a game with a death miller so I have no clue if that is true or not.

Go look it up, I don't feel like educating you today. Was also too lazy to look it up in rules set, apparently.

Death Miller is out, as it is out in ~99.5% of the games on this site. Stop discussing it, it's stupid.

↑ Pine wrote:

@Chesskid: Is this bastard mod? I forget