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by the way you're not discussing ongoing games are you?

your the one inferring that I am. you can mention a game. but I have not given any details to it.

answer my #99 please

and because you are already thoroughly convinced that I am already scum and nothing I say that is truth is being considered. THAT is being ignorant and stubborn to other possibilities. the possibility that I ACTUALLY am innocent.

but then again you being scum would make sense since you just want a quick lynch of someone you already know is town.

where have i said that i was thoroughly convinced that you were scum?

all you've done is provide irrelevant and retarded arguments to which refutations are easily brought up. and then when you're unable to refute them back, you're just yelling "sigh, you're convinced i'm scum, therefore you must be scum".

that said, your vote on me is essentially omgus.

↑ tigerzone wrote:where have i said that i was thoroughly convinced that you were scum?

the fact that your VOTE is on me! why would it be there if you didn't think I was scum? =P

↑ tigerzone wrote:all you've done is provide irrelevant and retarded arguments to which refutations are easily brought up. and then when you're unable to refute them back, you're just yelling "sigh, you're convinced i'm scum, therefore you must be scum".

its not because you are convinced. its because you are so convinced so EARLY on in the game! THAT is scummy!

the key word and basis of your scumread on me is "thoroughly". i think you're scummiest out of everyone here thus far, but i'm not deadset convinced that you absolutely must be scum.

I skimmed through Leviathan's other games, he's illogical, weird, inconsistent, and lynched in almost every game. I'm not really sure how to evaluate his alignment on that basis but I don't think arguing with him is gonna get us anywhere useful.

sigh fuck me, i knew better than to argue with levi like this.

↑ tigerzone wrote:the key word and basis of your scumread on me is "thoroughly". i think you're scummiest out of everyone here thus far, but i'm not deadset convinced that you absolutely must be scum.

fine. I understand your point then. I concede.

UNVOTE:

I kinda sorta agree about nacho. What he's doing could be considered buddying up to Lev, and it seems to be working. If Lev is town I'd say that nacho is much more likely to be scum. I think the probability of their both being scum is very low.

I really don't know what to think about Lev with all this talk of his meta. I really don't want to get too much into that BS because you can always hide behind your meta--I was in one game with MafiaSSK where he hid behind his unhelpful, scummy meta and won the game for scum, so I'm leery about buying into that whole "he's always scummy" nonsense since then. I want to observe him more on the basis of this game, although I admit it might be interesting to see his scum meta.

My vote's staying where it is for now because he's still the best lead that I have. I'd love to hear more from Nacho and DDD right now.

↑ leviathan93 wrote:and because you are already thoroughly convinced that I am already scum and nothing I say that is truth is being considered. THAT is being ignorant and stubborn to other possibilities. the possibility that I ACTUALLY am innocent.

but then again you being scum would make sense since you just want a quick lynch of someone you already know is town.

this is some funny shit right here

Levi is policy lynch material basically. Youĺl never tell his alignment unless he done goof somehow because everything he posts is poo poo. You don´t really need meta to see that, just the last two pages.

RF is scummy if Levi is town.

I don't have time to do much because I get to work on Saturday (today) (oh joy), but to quickly comment on my self-vote,

It was a joke response to Rest's vote, but it doubled as a reaction catalyst. See, for some reason a lot of people on this site like to jump all over self-votes and call them scummy (even though, if you really think about it, both town and scum can have motivations for a self-vote, so it's a faulty assumption), and then there are the people that realize that a self-vote by itself is a null tell; therefore, I decided to throw down a self-vote and see how people reacted.

My vote having served its purpose,


Reserving my vote until I've had time to better read the game.

Iecerint wrote:RF is scummy if Levi is town.

Why?

I buy CK's explanation; it's pretty much the justification I expected. It's not a pro-town or anti-town reason, but a pro-game reason.

↑ VP Baltar wrote:Levi is policy lynch material basically. Youĺl never tell his alignment unless he done goof somehow because everything he posts is poo poo. You don´t really need meta to see that, just the last two pages.

Phone post. Disagree, I'm reading town. Reading town on FT as well.

Who're you reading as scum though.

↑ VP Baltar wrote:Who're you reading as scum though.

unvote, vote:ddd

PP: can pretty confidently state you're wrong on this one. Also you're either out of touch or scum; old town VPB would've come harder than this.

↑ Human Destroyer wrote:I mean, self-voting is anti-town but what's the scum motivation for it?

nothing. but it's like, free wagon. might as well take it.

↑ Iecerint wrote:Tigerzone was scummy for jumping on that point overstrongly, but I agree about the daykill gambit response business, given how quick he was to respond.

and he's still #2 scummiest despite of that?

↑ Iecerint wrote:1. Tiger is probably town, perceived-scumminess on my part notwithstanding.

then why did you call him one of the scummiest

↑ FourTrouble wrote:This guy is not reading the game carefully or giving it much though, and his vote on me is looking more and more contrived.

not reading the game and thinking enough?
or is he just scum?

↑ leviathan93 wrote:also note that i am a bit suspicious of the possible buddying going on here. since no one else is thinking the way you are.

hello this is town as fuck
the entire town is mobilizing against him, and one guy comes up like "hey, i'll listen to you and be your friend! let's talk!", and his first response is "you are possibly buddying me."

↑ RestFermata wrote:I kinda sorta agree about nacho. What he's doing could be considered buddying up to Lev, and it seems to be working. If Lev is town I'd say that nacho is much more likely to be scum. I think the probability of their both being scum is very low.

i am buddying up to lev, jesus
why does it make me scum?

↑ Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:

↑ VP Baltar wrote:Who're you reading as scum though.

unvote, vote:ddd

PP: can pretty confidently state you're wrong on this one. Also you're either out of touch or scum; old town VPB would've come harder than this.

you didn't answer his question
and old town VPB is sort of irrelevant right now, don't you agree?


restfermata is also scum

↑ RestFermata wrote:I kinda sorta agree about nacho. What he's doing could be considered buddying up to Lev, and it seems to be working. If Lev is town I'd say that nacho is much more likely to be scum. I think the probability of their both being scum is very low.

I really don't know what to think about Lev with all this talk of his meta. I really don't want to get too much into that BS because you can always hide behind your meta--I was in one game with MafiaSSK where he hid behind his unhelpful, scummy meta and won the game for scum, so I'm leery about buying into that whole "he's always scummy" nonsense since then. I want to observe him more on the basis of this game, although I admit it might be interesting to see his scum meta.

My vote's staying where it is for now because he's still the best lead that I have. I'd love to hear more from Nacho and DDD right now.

This post makes me very suspicious of Fermata. It makes me see that scum is in he or Nacho and i would choose Restfermata as the scummy one.