Micro 136: Bork's NFL UPick (Game Over)

[RachMarie]

I am here. will catch up.

[FuDuzn]

Jmo, why do you accuse Majiffy of twisting your words....and then vote Grizzle?

This would have been the correct response:
VOTE: Majiffy

[jmo16mla]

We need more responses, grizzle hasn't posted much and what he has posted has been useless to finding scum.

[Majiffy]

Jmo, why do you accuse Majiffy of twisting your words....and then vote Grizzle?

This would have been the correct response:
VOTE: Majiffy

Speaking of correct responses: why?

[Grizzlegom]

Okay, so chop and screw my quote to make it look bad.

UNVOTE: Majiffy
VOTE: Grizzlegom
What do you think about the games actions so far?

Getting town from Majiffy, his non-reaction to the RVS train against him seem consistent with someone who wasn't worried about it which seems town to me. MP5 hasn't posted much but I get a town vibe from his posts.

Aside from that, Rach is obviously a null read and I think I've seen something from everyone else that I haven't been overly fond of but nothing that makes me feel strongly.

Unvote: RachMarie
Vote: Seanald

I didn't like the way he ignored Lincolm's question about why he changed his vote and then jumped on him. Like Majiffy pointed out #88 seemed like a backtracking post, even though he later firmed up sticking to JMO town, could have simply been damage control.

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 1.4

[2] jmo16mla (Majiffy, Mac)
[2] Lincolm (Seanald, MP5)
[2] Majiffy (Lincolm, FuDuzn)
[1] FuDuzn (RachMarie)
[1] Grizzlegom (jmo16mla)
[1] Seanald (Grizzlegom)

With 9 alive, it is 5 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in: (expired on 2013-03-15 20:15:00)

[borkjerfkin]

Guys.

Half the game was prodded.

[FuDuzn]

My bad, I was meaning to post yesterday but got caught up in two other games that were nearing to end of the Day. But anywho......

A non reaction to a RVS wagon is hardly a town tell. Majiffy has been around the block and would know how to handle things, would you expect scum to flip out and start throwing things? His non reaction is more of a sign that he isn't a newbie, and like I said, has been around the block a few times.

[Seanald]

^ yeah, dont be so quick to give town points to majiffy grizzle.

[Majiffy]

AW SHIT THERE'S A FUCKING WAGON ON ME, FUCK, AW DAMNIT GUYS GET OFF AWWWW

[Majiffy]

Still waiting on reasons for that vote, FuDu.

[RachMarie]

Majiffy should not get a free pass, but I like to keep him around a bit longer before assuming he is scum, if he is town, we really could use him, if he is scum, we are in deep doo doo, and hopefully will be able to figure it out after a day or two. So for now he is in leaning town and I will need a lot more than we have so far to move him into the scum pile.

If you believe that Fu why the heck do you still have a vote on him

ATM I am kinda happy where my vote is.

[RachMarie]

I have played in a number of games with him and I can tell you that Majiffy is a very good player no matter what his alignment.

[FuDuzn]

Well to answer both of you questions, he did try to twist Jmo's words. That generally is more scummy then townie. Though the fact that jmo called you out on that without voting you. Plus I didn't have a vote down, a little bit of a pressure vote as well.

And Rach, what difference does it make how good of a player someone is? I hate when people will not vote for someone because they could be a valuable town player. They also could be the reason for the downfall of the town.

[RachMarie]

true, but it is only day 1. I have never seen town lose if we keep Majiffy around for at least the first couple of days, after that then I will be happy to lynch him, because by then I will have figured out that he is for sure scum.

[borkjerfkin]

Mac has requested replacement.

[Majiffy]

Well to answer both of you questions, he did try to twist Jmo's words.

Explain.

true, but it is only day 1. I have never seen town lose if we keep Majiffy around for at least the first couple of days, after that then I will be happy to lynch him, because by then I will have figured out that he is for sure scum.

WIFOM, it's magically delicious.

[MP5]

Well, the team has been on defence so I've been sitting out, but now we have the football so back on to the field I go for the offensive drive!

Just before we recommence with the live action, lets get a play-by-play review as we look at the highlights:

#67 - On the replay, the two questions he asked actually make sense, I think Lincolm just troubles me with English not being his native language, I had troubles with him the one time we played together before (and in that game we had an early misunderstanding, I thought he was clear after it, turned out he was scum :S) but I do think he's clear here.
UNVOTE:
#68 - I'm satisfied with this by FuDuzn.
#74 -

you placed it there just to be active you didn't actually care about what you were saying

I don't like this one bit, Seanald is imputing motive here, trying to make Lincolm look bad.
#75 - seems a legit response from Lincolm, especially with the language barrier. Damnit Lincolm, I'm gonna hate you if you're scum in this, but I can't help but read you as town.
#79 - awful. How come? This question is raised later and inadequately dealt with IMO. Not just the "jmo is town" part, but also the "terrible vote". Suppose jmo is town, well town players acquire votes all the time, doesn't make the vote on them terrible. Often it aids the discussion and helps them pick up their game.
#94 - agree with Mac's point on jmo here with the "town points" business, but I don't necessarily develop a scum read over it. Any old town could do it as well, so meh its null. Slight props to Mac's slot though for making this argument.
#96 - Lol. How is this badly quoted? Jmo made two statements asserting two facts in his previous post, Jiffy merely quoted those two statements of fact without the clutter inbetween, highlighting the potential inconsistency/hypocrisy in them. Humourous, but not overtly scummy from either player actually. It wasn't that easy to get discussion kick-started, so I can totally see how jmo could be sitting back in that stage waiting - at worst it's laziness, which isn't a scumtell.
#101 - Not sure I agree here, the vote makes sense if you think that words were twisted deliberately and maliciously. @FuDuzn, do you? Wouldn't you agree that either of those statements still makes sense on their own?
#104 - Lol at the town read on Majiffy, this is adequately dealt with later. Your first reasonable input into the game too Grizzle, nice vote from jmo to prompt this so I'm happy to lean jmo slightly toward the town side...
#107 - Agree with the reasoning about the lack of a town tell, but you had the opportunity to explain your vote and answer the question about it and you didn't ... plus, your vote is already on Majiffy. Are you actually trying to determine alignments FuDuzn, or just create a case on a player and didn't like any conflicting evidence (incorrect as it was)? Hmm, the jury is out on this one ...
#108 - Ugh I don't like the intent of this on many levels.

VOTE: Seanald

Why did you feel you had to add this comment?

#109 - LOL.
#111 - Hi Rach, not feeling greatly moved by your entry into the game either way. Might lean you

slightly

townside for they way you felt justified in keeping your RVS vote.
#113 - The first part, I already said I don't think any words were twisted (@

jmo

- do you feel they were, and do you feel how Majiffy used your words was unfair?). The reasoning makes sense if you think they were ...
The second part is annoying ... you keep saying things that are true FuDuzn, I don't disagree with you, but how does this help us catch scum?

So far I have Lincolm, Mac, jmo, and Rach leaning town/slight town, Majiffy I have no idea I can't read him yet, Grizzle hasn't contributed enough so is null :S FuDuzn I'm uncertain on, but Seanald I'm confident is scum.

[Majiffy]

Seanald vote is a good vote.

[Seanald]

If you vote me your gay....

[jmo16mla]

@mp5. I don't thinks here was scum motivation to quote me like that. Hence, why I he didn't get the vote, a less active player did.

[MP5]

Yeah, coz that has really convinced me not to vote for you ... I can only hope that it also convinces others not to vote for you ...

[Grizzlegom]

A non reaction to a RVS wagon is hardly a town tell. Majiffy has been around the block and would know how to handle things, would you expect scum to flip out and start throwing things? His non reaction is more of a sign that he isn't a newbie, and like I said, has been around the block a few times.

This sounds like he's fooled you guys before, haha. I get what you are saying and I'll keep this in mind moving forward but at this early stage, I get the strong town vibe from him.

If you vote me your gay....

That's the second time you've responded to a question by posting something useless/attacking someone else. Hiding something?

[jmo16mla]

Everyone's posts are out of order!!!

[borkjerfkin]

Everyone's posts are out of order!!!

Should be ok now. Was happening all over the board.