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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:27 am
by zachattack
In post 87, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 75, zachattack wrote: Nero, you probably missed it because I didn't use proper quote tags. Where did the idea that I'm a good player come from?
No I saw it, I just didn't think it was important. Do you think its important line of questioning?

Either I played a game with you and thought you were good or I'm thinking of another user.
The way it was written sounded like somebody told you I was good. "Zack is supposed to be a pretty good player so he's out". I've certainly never played with you, unless you're an alt.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:11 am
by Svenskt Stål
In post 98, Nero Cain wrote:1. Its a Kise + Nacho hydra but I don't understand what that has to do with anything.
2. Why did you call the Fuzzy wagon easy?
3. What does me trying to hard have to do with anything?
1. Thanks. Should be rather easy to figure out.
2. It has 8 votes.
3. I think scum are more motivated in the eary game than town is. Town tend to be more like "oh, this will take time" while scum is more like "I am gonna be ontop of everyones townlist".

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:14 am
by Ravenpaw
In post 84, Skullduggery wrote:
In post 65, Ravenpaw wrote:How does self-voting save us?
Well, I saved FuDuzn from being the main wagon, didn't I?
Yes, but it was your vague threat that originally started the Fuduzango wagon in the first place.
Why do I care so much about helping FuDuzn, you ask? Because
we're Scumbuddies, obviously
I like the cut of his jib, that's all. Also because I'm a Fandango fan.
What's a jib?
In post 100, zachattack wrote:
In post 87, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 75, zachattack wrote: Nero, you probably missed it because I didn't use proper quote tags. Where did the idea that I'm a good player come from?
No I saw it, I just didn't think it was important. Do you think its important line of questioning?

Either I played a game with you and thought you were good or I'm thinking of another user.
The way it was written sounded like somebody told you I was good. "Zack is supposed to be a pretty good player so he's out". I've certainly never played with you, unless you're an alt.
Whoa! Did Nero accidentally let slip some qt discussion he'd had?
Hmm...

Unvote

Vote: Nero Cane


@Nero- Why are you voting Skull? And just curious, what is an RK game?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:41 am
by xMALCOLMx
In post 99, Fuzzyman wrote:Malcolm, there are a lot of players right now with a lot worse reasons for their votes.
There are? Bring them to me.
In post 102, Ravenpaw wrote:Whoa! Did Nero accidentally let slip some qt discussion he'd had?
Hmm...
This vote is a bit boring. I don't think that Nero would have a discussion about zach being a good player in his scum QT and then immediately slip that info in his first post of the game. Do you?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:45 am
by Svenskt Stål
What do you base that on Malcolm? A slip is a slip. Seems like you are defending in a softish way.

I have no problem with her vote, have you called out any votes on skull? Or was every vote on skull a good vote in your opinion?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:59 am
by Amethyst Actor
In post 97, Svenskt Stål wrote:I also dont like ametysth actor, taking a holliday as a hydra, wtf.
Mom has a job that leaves her with really bad internet access during her shifts. When Mom goes on leave it's Dad's day to do the heavy lifting

Basically what she said was that Dad will probably be doing most of the talking at present.

As it is, I think it's time to UNVOTE:

I'll probably need to read through what happened again so far, but for right now, my vote's off.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:03 am
by Svenskt Stål
CAn you stop talking like that? Feels like an act, which I know can be towny but its also just added noise if you get what I mean.

Also could every hydra start to sign thier posts? WIll be helpfull upon rereads to know how reads progressed and not be like "wtf... how did that happen"

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:48 am
by Amethyst Actor
Nope. That's actually how we sign our posts Sven.

If TAM's talking, I am Dad, if Marangal is talking, it's Mom.

That simple.

Also I believe most of us our signing it in one way or another,.

(P.S. Unless you haven't gathered, it's Dad talking right now.)

Please explain how it feels like an "act" The only part of that sentance that was an act was the use of Mom. The rest of what was said is actual fact.

Also, I'd like to point out that we have 6 Hydras, 3 of which are Anon. I'm willing to guess that it should be easy to tell. (If mom actually disagrees with a read and we haven't discussed things ahead of time, You'll definately know.) Mom and I both keep pretty good track of that sort of thing.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:42 am
by Svenskt Stål
AA, okay. I like this post fwiw.

The thing that seems "acted" is the "mom/dad" part, but whatever, I`LL LIVE =).

I have not really been following everything, how are you approaching this game AA? Do you have a "plan" or are you just switching on that scumdar and and popin a beer?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:51 am
by GoodCopBadCop
In post 73, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 70, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 66, The Goat wrote:If it was rolefishing, it was very poorly and blatantly done, to the point that I do not find it a viable scumtell. I find those who would use that as an excuse to vote somewhat suspect.

In fact,
vote Squidward.
Have you played with Monkey before? If you do, you will might agree with me that he generally scum slips early in games... Scum monkey = obv role fishing , fake claims, and poor play.

if you don't know or don't believe, either check his meta or maybe the other older players might fill you in...
I don't scumslip or play poorly. I get lynched for poor reasons(like this one).
Do you want to talk about your meta?
Not liking this. The 'insult' from Angel would only apply if Monkey is scum and the reaction he gave here seems genuine (the bolded).

VOTE: Monkey
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@Fuzzy
Malcolm, there are a lot of players right now with a lot worse reasons for their votes. I'm comfortable with mine on Skullduggery until she gives a better reason for her self-vote.
The deflection here is scummy. I would've expected town-you to mention that the game has just started instead deflecting.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:51 am
by GoodCopBadCop
-Good cop ^

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:00 am
by Svenskt Stål
In post 109, GoodCopBadCop wrote:
In post 73, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 70, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 66, The Goat wrote:If it was rolefishing, it was very poorly and blatantly done, to the point that I do not find it a viable scumtell. I find those who would use that as an excuse to vote somewhat suspect.

In fact,
vote Squidward.
Have you played with Monkey before? If you do, you will might agree with me that he generally scum slips early in games... Scum monkey = obv role fishing , fake claims, and poor play.

if you don't know or don't believe, either check his meta or maybe the other older players might fill you in...
I don't scumslip or play poorly. I get lynched for poor reasons(like this one).
Do you want to talk about your meta?
Not liking this. The 'insult' from Angel would only apply if Monkey is scum and the reaction he gave here seems genuine (the bolded).


VOTE: Monkey
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@Fuzzy
Malcolm, there are a lot of players right now with a lot worse reasons for their votes. I'm comfortable with mine on Skullduggery until she gives a better reason for her self-vote.
The deflection here is scummy. I would've expected town-you to mention that the game has just started instead deflecting.
I dont understand your point, I would be offended if someone talked bad about my scum game even if I am town.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:24 am
by MonkeyMan576
My problem with ArcAngel is, that while she is not stupid by any means, she attacks people for stupid reasons and then gets super defensive when she is attacked. She was attacking my play in general, not just my scum play. She is acting like an expert on my meta when she is far from it.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:49 am
by Krab Bucket
In post 66, The Goat wrote:If it was rolefishing, it was very poorly and blatantly done, to the point that I do not find it a viable scumtell. I find those who would use that as an excuse to vote somewhat suspect.

In fact,
vote Squidward.
This post was horrific. It's basically you saying "I'm not scummy for doing it, you're scummy for accusing me!". The vote just makes things worse, Squid's putting a little pressure on you and you go ballistic.

The self-vote was odd from Skulduggery, not scummy, but just odd. A null tell to me. I'd rather vote a scummy person than a null person.

UNVOTE: Skulduggery
VOTE: The Goat

btw guize, i am from aces and eights, my name is bully ray.

~Krabs

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:54 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 112, MonkeyMan576 wrote:My problem with ArcAngel is, that while she is not stupid by any means, she attacks people for stupid reasons and then gets super defensive when she is attacked. She was attacking my play in general, not just my scum play. She is acting like an expert on my meta when she is far from it.
Show me when did i stated my reason is your play style here?
I have explained why i think that your role fishing looks scummy to me, but all you did is using my play style as your defence.
Can you stop talking about my playstle monkey, and if you don't see it.. My play style is lot better than you think it is..

Stating my reasons are stupid doesn't make them stupid.. infact the more you pushing them back making me to believe that you may be scum again in usual fashion.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:55 am
by GoodCopBadCop
@Sven - If you were town-Monkey you wouldn't get offended because she's obviously wrong about you. However, If you were scum her insult would hold more weight.
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@Angel - How many games you played with Monkey?

-Goodcop

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:57 am
by MonkeyMan576
In post 114, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 112, MonkeyMan576 wrote:My problem with ArcAngel is, that while she is not stupid by any means, she attacks people for stupid reasons and then gets super defensive when she is attacked. She was attacking my play in general, not just my scum play. She is acting like an expert on my meta when she is far from it.
Show me when did i stated my reason is your play style here?
I have explained why i think that your role fishing looks scummy to me, but all you did is using my play style as your defence.
Can you stop talking about my playstle monkey, and if you don't see it.. My play style is lot better than you think it is..

Stating my reasons are stupid doesn't make them stupid.. infact the more you pushing them back making me to believe that you may be scum again in usual fashion.
I WAS NOT ROLEFISHING! I was inquiring about a breadcrumb.

Your reasons are stupid. You are not even stating what I did correctly and you are not listening to any counter arguments. You can be smart sometimes but you can also be dense a lot of the time too.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:59 am
by GoodCopBadCop
Why would you ask someone if they were breadcrumbing? Wouldn't that kinda defeat the purpose of it being hidden?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:59 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 115, GoodCopBadCop wrote:@Sven - If you were town-Monkey you wouldn't get offended because she's obviously wrong about you. However, If you were scum her insult would hold more weight.
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@Angel - How many games you played with Monkey?

-Goodcop
"three completed games" and he was scum in couple of games. He has a tendency to scum slip early in games.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:03 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 116, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 114, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 112, MonkeyMan576 wrote:My problem with ArcAngel is, that while she is not stupid by any means, she attacks people for stupid reasons and then gets super defensive when she is attacked. She was attacking my play in general, not just my scum play. She is acting like an expert on my meta when she is far from it.
Show me when did i stated my reason is your play style here?
I have explained why i think that your role fishing looks scummy to me, but all you did is using my play style as your defence.
Can you stop talking about my playstle monkey, and if you don't see it.. My play style is lot better than you think it is..

Stating my reasons are stupid doesn't make them stupid.. infact the more you pushing them back making me to believe that you may be scum again in usual fashion.
I WAS NOT ROLEFISHING! I was inquiring about a breadcrumb.

Your reasons are stupid. You are not even stating what I did correctly and you are not listening to any counter arguments. You can be smart sometimes but you can also be dense a lot of the time too.
Right monkey, now my reasons are only smart sometimes not all the times. so what exactly is your counter argument?
you were breadcruming means, you were fishing for town PR's on Day 1?? Seriously? no body does that.. that is so anti-town.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:05 am
by Svenskt Stål
I just want to chim in and say that in my experience with AA9 she has never made logic sense.

So I bet monkey is town here.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:11 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 120, Svenskt Stål wrote:I just want to chim in and say that in my experience with AA9 she has never made logic sense.
So I bet monkey is town here.
O really, Its awkard to hear from a person who played only one full game with me and happened to be scum in that game is now judging my town play? Hilarious Sven.
And are you implying that you support Monkey argument that his breadcrumbing this early on Day 1 is very pro town play? :roll:

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:14 am
by Svenskt Stål
I am implying that people think they see "town power play" or "scum slips" way to much, and not reflecting over the fact that they are wrong alot.
I am implying that your reasoning have been subpar from what I have seen.

I dont know what breadcrumbing is.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:16 am
by GoodCopBadCop
In post 120, Svenskt Stål wrote:I just want to chim in and say that in my experience with AA9 she has never made logic sense.

So I bet monkey is town here.
There are others who think he's scum...

Your post made me lol though.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:23 am
by Svenskt Stål
I guess I have to read monkey then.