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In post 95, ac1983fan wrote:I'm not sure why NicCage has rounded up so many votes so quickly. it seems like people have latched onto a small handful of things he's said and jumped to seemingly ridiculous conclusions. I don't see how we have enough information about him to justify the number of votes he has. I think NC is more likely town whose wagon is being pushed by scum because it could feasibly give an easy d1 lynch for them.

In post 100, Varsoon wrote:Don't agree with the vote.
I agree that NicCage's wagon is being pushed really fast.

hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4931358 time=1367766396 user_id=10128]

Hey Toomai, I think you've started to bus NicCage too soon.

I'd move my vote to you if Cage's explanation for his vote wasn't a description of his last vote (you know, if we exclude the reasoning part). But we still have tomorrow, right?

hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4932237 time=1367792341 user_id=10128]

In post 95, ac1983fan wrote:I'm not sure why NicCage has rounded up so many votes so quickly. it seems like people have latched onto a small handful of things he's said and jumped to seemingly ridiculous conclusions. I don't see how we have enough information about him to justify the number of votes he has. I think NC is more likely town whose wagon is being pushed by scum because it could feasibly give an easy d1 lynch for them.

I disagree. Driving a wagon to L-2 on page 4 is too bold for scum. We're looking for the sneaky guys here. I don't think anyone on the wagon is scum.

Except Toomai

1. If I took something too seriously, that's an error in judgement, which is not alignment indicative.
2. So you didn't like the GCBC wagon, but that doesn't make people on it scum. You need more explanation there.
3. I am always cautious.

hp [leaves wrote: post_id=4932314 time=1367795256 user_id=10128]

Well, first, he took Cop's second RVS vote too seriously (unless Cop was also serious, which I doubt).

Secondly, Cop wagon was evidently a wagon I didn't like and Toomai was on it. Thirdly, his overall play strikes me as overly cautious. I can't say he's the best good lynch for today, but he's worth going after tomorrow. And also today.

• 19: Was this a serious (non-RVS) vote, and if so why?
• 39: Why did you only sheepvote NicCage after he asked why he was being singled out?

In post 108, Toomai wrote:...Also didn't like how the sequence of 37-39-41 contained dubious logic, a sheep vote, and a request/demand for more sheep - the wagon itself was not a bad idea for why I said in 87 but

he jumped on it without even waiting for the answer to the question of why.

Actually, now that I look at it, he jumped on it after NicCage asked why him and not me. That makes no sense.

In post 97, hapahauli wrote:It seems as though you object more with how I presented my suspicions than my actual suspicions. If so, stop this pointless nitpicking. You're wasting both of our times.

In post 95, ac1983fan wrote:I'm not sure why NicCage has rounded up so many votes so quickly. it seems like people have latched onto a small handful of things he's said and jumped to seemingly ridiculous conclusions. I don't see how we have enough information about him to justify the number of votes he has. I think NC is more likely town whose wagon is being pushed by scum because it could feasibly give an easy d1 lynch for them.

VOTE: Daemon385. His first post was very iffy and he hasn't posted since then; it could just be his newness clouding his actions but for the moment I think this is a good place for my vote.

In post 88, NicCage wrote:so jake from rainbowdash, why is it obvious that zefiend is town?

In post 109, hapahauli wrote:

In post 108, Toomai wrote:

Actually, now that I look at it, he jumped on it after NicCage asked why him and not me. That makes no sense.

Regarding the bolded, why do his actions not make sense?

In post 111, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:the "why me and not someone else" comment has absolutely no town motivation, instead it is a self preservation comment.

In post 102, hapahauli wrote:

In post 100, Varsoon wrote:Don't agree with the vote.
I agree that NicCage's wagon is being pushed really fast.

Since you've read the thread enough to know about the wagon, I'd assume you've read the thread enough to propose an alternative. Any suspicions?

In post 98, hapahauli wrote:If this is the best you can come up with after being gone for 2 days, I can't say that I'm thrilled. There's not one remotely concrete read in here. I get that it's possible not to be sure of things at this stage, but geez don't you have any questions to ask? Aren't you curious about

anything

?

We have 4 pages of thread. That's not difficult to catch up on at all. You sound lazy and lack any sense of urgency to find mafia. What gives?

In post 115, Varsoon wrote:As of now, though? I could see scum between Dyslexicon and Daemon. I find that scum doesn't jump on early wagons so much.

In post 115, Varsoon wrote:

In post 102, hapahauli wrote:

In post 100, Varsoon wrote:Don't agree with the vote.
I agree that NicCage's wagon is being pushed really fast.

Since you've read the thread enough to know about the wagon, I'd assume you've read the thread enough to propose an alternative. Any suspicions?

There's a lot of content here, and that's a good thing. It just means I need to read up a bit more.

As of now, though? I could see scum between Dyslexicon and Daemon. I find that scum doesn't jump on early wagons so much. That said, I'm pretty sure there's gotta be some scum between the NicCage and zefiend wagons. I'm really suspicious off GoodCopBadCop, less so of Ponydash and NicCage.

Either way, narrowing down suspicions isn't a good thing to do. I'll likely ISO everyone in a few days and figure out where I stand on all of this.

As far as people calling me scum, I find it laughable. I just haven't been very active or produced much so far, and for that, I do apologize. I should really be on V/LA this week, but I will be peeking in from time to time.

In post 110, Cheery Pie wrote:

In post 97, hapahauli wrote:It seems as though you object more with how I presented my suspicions than my actual suspicions. If so, stop this pointless nitpicking. You're wasting both of our times.

I agree with this, however I consider it to have been a necessary evil. Just latched on to something and thus became a stickler for clarity as a result, didn't deliberately set out to do so or waste time. I don't feel the time has been wasted. I've actually appreciated the responses and am better off for them, but if that's done your head in then...

So what you said on Varsoon seemed accurate, but too early to establish anything. Yet, now there's been a couple of posts that sound a bit like a tennis commentator saying "and he's used his racquet to hit the ball" in terms of game insight (ie. very little). I don't like the developing pattern, it's still too early to establish this as an alignment read imo, but I hope it changes nonetheless.

And Daemon remains cemented with that 1 post in hand. I've asked him to follow up on it, you want him to follow up on it, I'm sure everyone would like some sort of follow up. But until there is a follow up we'll have to remain level-headed with our discontent. It's not an easy or necessarily sensible road to point

j'accuse

fingers at either of these two just yet.

So you've picked two players with 1 post, and both those singular posts give you an indication of their alignment, yet 0 posts doesn't, and those two players both having made 1 post that so happens to both raise your suspicion is somewhat coincidental, so it's not a policy lynch on lurkers, just suspicion on two less than active players, but even lesser active players aren't suspicious, so we should just take it at face value that these posts were scummy and you've openly expressed that they were scummy and in no way should we group to coincidental nature of their post count together or the fact that you collectively referred to them as "1-post-wonders" and have simply identified two scummy posts and directed everyone to them... *gasps for breath*

In post 112, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:

In post 88, NicCage wrote:so jake from rainbowdash, why is it obvious that zefiend is town?

I can't speak for dashie and at first I wasn't sure where she was getting it from but if you look at what was being said.

Hap is pushing the hp suspicion too hard, especially because it's based on faulty logic (saying that HP leaves hates RVS yet her RVS'd). HP leaves didn't random vote, he voted for a reason. Hap later changes his reasoning into "HP leaves wanted to policy lynch"

all of that is pushing way too hard on something that is completely null. Hap's reaction to HP's vote on BadCop comes off very bad and zef is really the only one who called it out. That gives Zef town points imo

post 58 just reiterates that Hap is seems very serious about HP being scum, yet the reasoning for Hap's suspicion is absolutely horrible, especially when there is more scummier people. Personally HP's vote on Bad cop looked like a reaction test to which Hap reacted badly

Maybe dashie can explain her thoughts, but that is basically what i came up with on my own.

-J

In post 115, Varsoon wrote:

In post 102, hapahauli wrote:

In post 100, Varsoon wrote:Don't agree with the vote.
I agree that NicCage's wagon is being pushed really fast.

Since you've read the thread enough to know about the wagon, I'd assume you've read the thread enough to propose an alternative. Any suspicions?

There's a lot of content here, and that's a good thing. It just means I need to read up a bit more.

As of now, though? I could see scum between Dyslexicon and Daemon. I find that scum doesn't jump on early wagons so much. That said, I'm pretty sure there's gotta be some scum between the NicCage and zefiend wagons. I'm really suspicious off GoodCopBadCop, less so of Ponydash and NicCage.

Either way, narrowing down suspicions isn't a good thing to do. I'll likely ISO everyone in a few days and figure out where I stand on all of this.

As far as people calling me scum, I find it laughable. I just haven't been very active or produced much so far, and for that, I do apologize. I should really be on V/LA this week, but I will be peeking in from time to time.

In post 113, Toomai wrote:

In post 109, hapahauli wrote:

In post 108, Toomai wrote:

Actually, now that I look at it, he jumped on it after NicCage asked why him and not me. That makes no sense.

Regarding the bolded, why do his actions not make sense?

In post 111, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:the "why me and not someone else" comment has absolutely no town motivation, instead it is a self preservation comment.

I didn't think of this. I figured that whenever anyone asks "why X and not Y" they are asking a reasonable question that deserves an answer, but I didn't consider that the case where X = self has a possibility of being blame-shifting.